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Aereo Expanding to Austin March 3
by Karl Bode 10:36AM Monday Feb 24 2014
Aereo this morning announced that the company would be launching their live TV and Internet DVR service in Austin on April 3. Austin makes Aereo's fourth Texas market after launching in San Antonio last week and an Dallas/Fort Worth and Houston last year. The Austin launch announcement comes on the heels of a significant court loss for Aereo in Utah, that has forced the company to shutter service in Salt Lake City and Denver, while preventing expansion into Wyoming, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah and Colorado. All of that may be moot however as the company is slated to head to the Supreme Court for a final battle with broadcasters on April 22.

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RadioDoc
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Copyright law fight

This will be interesting as it touches on some of the basics of performance rights in copyright law. If the Court rules in favor or Aereo it could very much open the door for a similar service for streaming audio, which would then be exempt from both performance and other copyright-related fees. I don't see that happening.
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Re: Copyright law fight

Aereo may wish to win in court first. If they lose, the company will be no more. Takes balls to keep expanding when at they had at least one adverse appellate decision. Smart or crazy ... guess we'll know in June when the Supreme Court releases it's decision.
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Re: Copyright law fight

On the other hand, it's an "ALL IN" situation. if they lose any money left in the bank is gone anyway.
This is the high risk bet they are making.

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If they win in court, there will be a dozen competitors who will show up in a hurry...at which point scale and footprint will matter. If I were running Aereo, I'd be doing exactly what they are doing....getting a head start while they still have venture capital and competition is waiting on the sidelines for legal clarification.
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Re: Copyright law fight

if they win dish, directv, comcast, and others will do the same thing for there locals.
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Re: Copyright law fight

They should have been having antennas installed with their dish from the beginning so they could avoid the entire pay for OTA content to begin with.
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said by pandora:

Aereo may wish to win in court first. If they lose, the company will be no more. Takes balls to keep expanding when at they had at least one adverse appellate decision. Smart or crazy ... guess we'll know in June when the Supreme Court releases it's decision.

if slingbox is legal then aereo is legal, theres not really any valid legal argument against aereo.

its using the same idea, except aereo sets up the antenna/slingbox in their datacenter for you.

It wouldnt be illegal for you to rent space in a datacenter and do it for yourself with a slingbox and antenna; so why then would it be illegal for a company like aereo to provide essentially rackspace for a rented slingbox and antenna?
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Re: Copyright law fight

said by the cerberus:

It wouldnt be illegal for you to rent space in a datacenter and do it for yourself with a slingbox and antenna; so why then would it be illegal for a company like aereo to provide essentially rackspace for a rented slingbox and antenna?

Because the entertainment industry says it is, that's why!!!
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said by the cerberus:

said by pandora:

Aereo may wish to win in court first. If they lose, the company will be no more. Takes balls to keep expanding when at they had at least one adverse appellate decision. Smart or crazy ... guess we'll know in June when the Supreme Court releases it's decision.

if slingbox is legal then aereo is legal, theres not really any valid legal argument against aereo.

its using the same idea, except aereo sets up the antenna/slingbox in their datacenter for you.

It wouldnt be illegal for you to rent space in a datacenter and do it for yourself with a slingbox and antenna; so why then would it be illegal for a company like aereo to provide essentially rackspace for a rented slingbox and antenna?

What sounds simple and reasonable to folks like you and I, becomes very complex and easily misunderstood before the more educated folks at our floating Constitutional Convention.
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said by the cerberus:

if slingbox is legal then aereo is legal, theres not really any valid legal argument against aereo.

Slingbox is not charging a monthly fee to use your slingbox. Big difference and well entrenched in copyright law; once you move into a commercial use you are subject to royalties. Aereo is a commercial use.
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That's not very practical. Most radio stations already stream online for free, and most people listen to radio just because it's in their cars.

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Chicago

Still waiting in Chicago...
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I'll buy some scratch tickets

If the Supreme Court rules against Aereo, it probably won't shut down but WILL have to negotiate retransmission agreements like every other pay TV provider.

PS: What I mean by the title of my post is they are basically gambling with investor money, they should hold off expansion until the court fight is over.

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said by IowaCowboy:

If the Supreme Court rules against Aereo, it probably won't shut down but WILL have to negotiate retransmission agreements like every other pay TV provider.

You're joking, right? The stations will never allow it. Well, maybe if they paid 100x what the cable co's pay. Why do you think no one else has launched an over-the-top distribution system yet? Go ahead, ask Intel why theirs failed.

/M
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Salt Lake still working

Don't tell the Judge but it's still working for me in Salt Lake.
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Re: Salt Lake still working

said by tawmack:

Don't tell the Judge but it's still working for me in Salt Lake.

It's not unusual for a judge to issue a stay against their own ruling pending higher court review. She may have said Aereo can service existing customers but can't add any new ones.
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Re: Salt Lake still working

I spoke to soon, The web version still continues to work but the Roku app has disappeared from my channels.
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Soft launched last week

I got an email from Aereo last week saying that the service was live if I wanted to sign up. So I did. Quality isn't great but I successfully DVR'd some Winter Olympics footage. The service seems to work well enough, though coming from watching recorded shows the presence of advertising was jarring to say the last (which meant that I skipped the ads...)

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Madison!!!

Geezus, MADISON, WI ALREADY!!!