SSX4lifeHello World Premium Member join:2004-02-13 |
SSX4life
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2008-Oct-14 9:19 am
What a total jokeI can't wait to see some upright and standing ISP / Company sue the government in court when they wrongfully accuse someone of facilitating piracy. Because we all know how well the government does background checks on intelligence in matters of national security /sarcasam
Mark my words, this one ends up in the Supreme Court in the next 5 years. | |
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| DrModemTrust Your Doctor Premium Member join:2006-10-19 USA |
DrModem
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2008-Oct-14 9:32 am
Re: What a total jokeProbably more like the next year. | |
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Change as promised by Barrack ObombaChange as promised by Barrack Obomba.....we have the new change democrats will from now one vote republican and procorporations. Obomba will be the new riaa messiah. Now Obomba should work for immunity to all gitmo residents. | |
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Re: Change as promised by Barrack ObombaI'm no fan of Obama but let's be fair here. Regardless of the party running the country now or in the future, we, the consumer, gets screwed regardless.
Corporate welfare and greed has caused the debacle we are currently mired in and yet we, the consumer, allow these mega corps to outsource millions of American jobs w/o so much as a whimper.
It's time to call them traitors for sending jobs overseas only to make a few more pennies on the dollar. | |
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Re: Change as promised by Barrack ObombaSpeaking of corporate welfare: Ever wonder why soft drinks in the U.S. are made with HFCS and many other countries use sugar? » www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa ··· 241.html | |
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classconscious
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2008-Oct-15 3:40 pm
Re: Change as promised by Barrack Obombauh.. yeah we on the Left are actually the most meaningful haters of Corporate Welfare. By talking about it re B Obama are you indicating that he should lose and the Repugs are not equally despicable as re Pork et al? » www.corpwatch.org » www.prwatch.org » www.commondreams.org » www.truthout.orgGet with a party that's censored by the corporate press, precisely because it would expose the crapped food supply and so many other corporate excesses: »www.peaceandfreedom.org | |
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Re: Change as promised by Barrack ObombaNo, that was not what I was implying.
You'll note the article I linked to indicated the CEO lobbied to both parties. | |
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| ChiyoSave Me Konata-Chan Premium Member join:2003-02-20 Salisbury, NC |
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Why does using the word Czar sound so wrong to me? it sounds so dictatorship like. | |
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SSX4life
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2008-Oct-14 12:51 pm
Re: What a total jokesaid by Chiyo:Why does using the word Czar sound so wrong to me? it sounds so dictatorship like. because it is??? | |
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Will the Bolsheviks take down this Czar or sit on the armchairs playing warrior? | |
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Re: What a total jokeOnly nine [candidate] shopping days till October 25th! | |
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Re: What a total jokeI am still shopping for the lesser of the two evils. I thought the election was 19 days away Nov 4 or are you referring to something else?
See IM. | |
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Re: What a total jokeBolsheviks... Red October... October 25, 1917 (I hardly expect the election to be "revolutionary"... just more of the same, whichever way it goes... more's the pity.) | |
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Re: What a total jokeThanks | |
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| StreetSpiritThis spot reserved for Xenu. Premium Member join:2002-08-13 Roslyn, NY |
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Would some country, please air lift a shit load of valium and drop it onto DC, because those suckers need to go rest for a while.. A long while. WTF?! Are we trying to be last? This is no longer funny. I'm sad, sad sad, and so are everyone I know who has an ounce of thought process left. Is America now incorporated? YOU BETCHA, cept it's a limited parternship. For tax purposes. | |
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KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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2008-Oct-14 9:37 am
more waste of dollars.yet another waste of money on a "war" that cannot be won. however the MAFIAA wants to kill piracy not so they stop "loosing" money to it but so that they can jack up prices on their products without fear of competing with free. music legal downloads arent 99 cents and sometimes cheaper because the MAFIAA wants them to be, its because they want people who would pirate to buy them. without piracy we would likely be paying 5 dollars a track on itunes and similar services. | |
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Re: more waste of dollars.said by Kearnstd:yet another waste of money on a "war" that cannot be won. however the MAFIAA wants to kill piracy not so they stop "loosing" money to it but so that they can jack up prices on their products without fear of competing with free. music legal downloads arent 99 cents and sometimes cheaper because the MAFIAA wants them to be, its because they want people who would pirate to buy them. without piracy we would likely be paying 5 dollars a track on itunes and similar services. I wonder when some state AGs are going to get off their rearends and end the RIAA's "court" and court abuse with all their filings? Love to see their lawyers get disbarred for unlicensed law practice. | |
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Its comingWe must win this race to become completely 3rd World. | |
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2008-Oct-14 10:00 am
are we shocked?? Sadly.. no..We watch as 850 billion are allocated to protect big business.
We watch as another new Czar and Political office is created.
We watch government for the Business, by the business.
Yes, it has become..
The Constitution of the United States of America
We the Corporations of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic profitability, provide for the corporate defense, promote the general balance sheet, and remove the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United Corporations of America. | |
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Re: are we shocked?? Sadly.. no..said by mot :
We, the Corporations of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union merger, establish justice fascism, insure domestic profitability, provide for the corporate defense, promote the general balance sheet, and remove the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our for all posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United Corporations of America. Fixed it for you... No Unions allowed! | |
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Re: are we shocked?? Sadly.. no..Except all the ones working on movies for the giant media conglomerates -- as in, everybody whose name scrolls past in the end credits. | |
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I just have to ass these two quotes (both from former CIA directors):
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." --William Colby
and the next was at the beginning of the director's time... "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." --William Casey
Welcome the the DSNA (Divided States of North America)...or more accurately the DSNAMC (the Divided States of North America Minus Canada). And in the fine print...a Subsidiary of Halliburton. | |
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We the Corporations of the United States, in order to form collusion, establish greed, insure domestic profitability, provide for the corporate golden parachutes, promote the general balance sheet, and remove the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United Corporations of America
Fixed yet again. | |
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BSOh look the government running more and more things, so much for having a free country anymore. We might as well be puppets to the government and eat, sleep and drink when they say it's ok. | |
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Re: BSsaid by sphinxguy18:Oh look the government running more and more things, so much for having a free country anymore. We might as well be puppets to the government and eat, sleep and drink when they say it's ok. stop complaining, do something about it. | |
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Re: BSLike what ?
1. Vote - vote for the lesser of two evils. 2. Don't buy music from companies supporting the RIAA 3. Write your officials. Doesn't matter they vote anyway they want to. If you vote someone else in at the next election they do the same thing.
I read post were people say do something about it but, don't offer solutions. I fight the system every way I can and I still get it in the %@%$%@#. I vote every time I can. I know what bills my congressman and senator vote on. It doesn't matter, we will continuing get $%@#%$@ until change (revolution) comes.
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Madcoyote
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2008-Oct-15 6:29 am
Re: BSThis Is a long one: From the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." Followed by the second amendment, I say we have a way of speaking up. Now this may seem harsh, but almost everyone in society is a Sheeple. ( » www.urbandictionary.com/ ··· =sheeple ) Basically, we let this happen to ourselves. More rights are violated everyday and will worsen until we successfully become a communist country. There are a hell of a lot more people in the working class combined, than all government agency's, congressman, politicians, military, etc. Like you said, voting wont accomplish anything these days, but the people could band together and exercise our rights. The 2nd amendment is there for a reason, and if lets say 20 million people did in fact bare arms, they could march down to the Capitol demanding changes within reason. Now I know what some will say, "wont this start a civil war, or cause massive chaos", and no it will not. Simply put, if everyone participating were to 1) Have intelligence and refrain from acting in an uncivilized manner 2) Keep their guns on a holster and not loaded. Looks alone will intimate. All that is left is to have the selected individuals speak up and demand (rights violated here ) to be changed. Until that day happens, we can continue being herded like sheep. | |
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Does this law overrule the dmca as reguards to isp libaityThe dmca says that isp's are not liable civil or criminally for the actions of it's users, so seize of ISP equipment would not apply unless this new law states it does. Could someone post the text of the bill please Individuals would have to worry about that. I wish people would stop voting for these dicks!! | |
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2008-Oct-14 12:59 pm
Re: Does this law overrule the dmca as reguards to isp libaitysaid by bluedyedvd:The dmca says that isp's are not liable civil or criminally for the actions of it's users, so seize of ISP equipment would not apply unless this new law states it does. Just because they are not liable doesn't mean that their equipment can't be seized as evidence. An ISPs unrelated equipment can't (or at least shouldn't) be seized, nor should an ISP's equipment be seized to be auctioned off a la a drug dealer's assets. Could someone post the text of the bill please Individuals would have to worry about that. Google is your friend | |
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| KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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ISPs should not ever be the piracy police, this is like telling the guy collecting money in a toll booth he has to spot drug runners and stop them. | |
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2008-Oct-14 10:19 am
Score one for the RIAAscore one for them.
I guess jammie thomas is going to be stuck for that 200k now. | |
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2008-Oct-14 10:25 am
BushThis is President Bush screwing over Americans citizens yet again over big corp X. | |
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2008-Oct-14 10:39 am
New Declaration of Independence is Needed."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Abraham Lincoln did not say government of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation but corporate tyranny is what we now have and the government that Lincoln referred to may have already perished from the earth. | |
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It is easy to see that...Bush will not go quietly into the night and continue his ruination of this country right until the very end.
If the new president has half a brain he would IMO spend the first two years undoing what Bush did his last 8 years. | |
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like the rest of the countryquote: "At a time when the entire digital world is going to less restrictive distribution models, and when the courts are aghast at the outlandish damages being inflicted on consumers in copyright cases, this bill goes entirely in the wrong direction," she says.
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what a surprisethe government has failed for the vast majority of the people. it hasn't completely failed since it didn't fail for the entertainment industry. the more and more forced bending over for the entertainment industry instructed by the government, the more hatred for the entertainment industry i get (and to a somewhat lesser extent, the government) and the desire to take an active roll in cracking drm.
maybe i should just abstain from voting in this election and make sure politicians know I am and why i am abstaining. i've always wondered by when a lowly citizen doesn't vote they get labeled as: a no voter, dumb, lazy, and other derogatory terms, but when a politician doesn't vote, they call it 'abstaining' and no one really cares.
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Socialist Czar
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2008-Oct-14 11:42 am
This is becoming more and more a socialist countryThe last days of Bush administration (the houses too) are looking more and more like a "fill the pockets" last days... 700B$ is the heist of the millennium, this so called law, is yet another step towards the capitalist socialism...when is this country going to wake up !? | |
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ultracooldave
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2008-Oct-14 12:00 pm
The internet"our last freedom"Don't let the govt touch the internet in any way no matter how noble or "necessary"- they will seek further control then tax it! I really don't care how much child porn, terrorist activity, fraud or copyright violating is conducted on the internet- its the only way for people to interact and communicate freely and get their information without outside interference- let the people choose what they want to do on the internet not the govt.! | |
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2008-Oct-14 12:16 pm
Pres Obama must......change this whole shebang - though VP Biden is a well-known RIAA/MPAA shill, mostly due to his utter ignorance on the subject. | |
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2008-Oct-14 12:25 pm
SadWhats sad is if you copy 1 movie it carrys the same punishment as if you sold national secrets to the chinese. Both carry a max 5 year prison sentence, and upto 250k fine. With this new stuff going into effect, it might be cheaper to commit treason then copy a movie. | |
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Re: Sadsaid by Megladon1 :
Whats sad is if you copy 1 movie it carrys the same punishment as if you sold national secrets to the chinese. Both carry a max 5 year prison sentence, and upto 250k fine. With this new stuff going into effect, it might be cheaper to commit treason then copy a movie. I think you mean it will be more profitable to commit treason - remember this is a capitalist country | |
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2008-Oct-14 12:29 pm
Read The Bill | |
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2008-Oct-14 2:55 pm
Re: HAHAI will never forget that... | |
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2008-Oct-14 1:12 pm
Bipartisan bullcrap!God, this blame game is really making me sick. By my count the cosponsors of this bull were 11 Republicans and 10 Democrats so it's about as bipartisan as you'll get. The grass isn't greener on the left or the right side of the fence despite the amount of manure they might pile on it. | |
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OMGWTFBBQWhat the hell is wrong with our country?
the **AA is always comparing stealing a DVD/CD from a store to downloading.
The punishment for stealing a physical DVD/CD is less than downloading. WTF.
They are both wrong, but why are the punishments different? | |
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2008-Oct-18 2:08 pm
Re: OMGWTFBBQsaid by buzz_4_20:What the hell is wrong with our country? the **AA is always comparing stealing a DVD/CD from a store to downloading. The punishment for stealing a physical DVD/CD is less than downloading. WTF. They are both wrong, but why are the punishments different? I never thought of it that way. Interesting. | |
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