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After a long struggle, Russia-based AllofMP3.com was shut down yesterday by the Russian government, who'd faced continued criticism from the U.S. for allowing the music piracy website to flourish. The company that ran the website has already put an alternative website online (mp3sparks.com), which, like allofmp3.com, they claim is completely legal under Russian law.

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They Broke Russian Law

Their bribe checks to Vladimir Putin must have gotten lost in the mail

Perhaps they should relocate to Estonia.
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Re: They Broke Russian Law

Don't mean to tangent, but anyone know what caused the shutdown of Demonoid?

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Re: They Broke Russian Law

said by FiL See Profile :

Don't mean to tangent, but anyone know what caused the shutdown of Demonoid?
No but i bet theres an AA on the end of the reason.
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BREIN Claims Victory over Demonoid
LeaseWeb Strikes Back Against BREIN

BREIN has decided to go after LeaseWeb (Demonoid's hosting company); however, Demonoid claims their site is just down for routine upgrades.

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said by FiL See Profile :

Don't mean to tangent, but anyone know what caused the shutdown of Demonoid?
They seem to have their forums back up now, so maybe just a hardware failure as stated.
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Re: They Broke Russian Law

They're now back up in full. Which means the BREIN lied through their teeth. My God, would an anti-P2P propaganda group ACTUALLY lie about P2P!? Unheard of!!

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Who cares? Private bittorent sites are the new rage anyway. You can get free lossless rips of thousands of albums on Oink and Pedro's.
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Re: They Broke Russian Law

Apparently one person cares?

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Cold War v2

No wonder Putin has been so grumpy...

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Re: Cold War v2

said by Topmounter See Profile :

No wonder Putin has been so grumpy...
You'd be grumpy too if you had to spend 2 days with Gwbuh LOL

Funny you should mention Cold War 2, because that's what we're in with Russia now.
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this makes me chuckle a bit

Well what can I say it is kinda funny. I think this is the kind of stuff that deserves to happen to the RIAA due to the way they treat individual people. I really doubt they will ever be able to stomp it out. Oh and by the way I don't download music that I don't pay for. But I do take joy from the RIAA having a thorn in thier side.

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Re: this makes me chuckle a bit

said by shoan See Profile :

Well what can I say it is kinda funny. I think this is the kind of stuff that deserves to happen to the RIAA due to the way they treat individual people. I really doubt they will ever be able to stomp it out. Oh and by the way I don't download music that I don't pay for. But I do take joy from the RIAA having a thorn in thier side.
Lol yah. I wonder when they are going to figure out that people don't think that their music is work $1 a piece anymore. Peronsally I wish they would go down. The artist can make it without them. They are only getting a small portion of the profit while the RIAA sucks up the rest anyway.
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Erm, they've been down longer

I've been trying allofmp3.com and .ru since last Saturday (6/30) and not getting any response.

However, the allofmp3.com explorer has been working right along the whole time. Complete with content updates.

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Re: Erm, they've been down longer

There are other sites such as GoMusic that work if allofmp3 is down.

»www.gomusic.ru/
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Allofmp3 shut down as predicted

And the new site won't last long either if it truly is just the same people using a new domain name.

»Russia Pledges Piracy Clampdown
»Re: Stick it to 'em!
»Re: Copyright Act and New York law
»Hardly surprising - allofmp3 was a pirate outfit

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And they sold their email list to spam outfits

Just noticed too that allofmp3 sold their subscribers email list before shutting the site down.

I have an email dedicated to my allofmp3 account (thanks yahoo for unlimited secondary emails), and I received my first 2 spams to this address this morning...

I guess they wanted to make a few last dollars before shutting the site down.
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Re: And they sold their email list to spam outfits

you do realize that spammers have new tools to farm emails right ?

now they actually cycle threw random letters and have been for awhile , there is no real way any more to block spam except a 3rd party application. Sad but true.
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Re: And they sold their email list to spam outfits

The email I'm referring to is 16 characters long (before the @), has random characters in it (like numbers and non alpha numeric), so I doubt that a random generator would find this one.
It was never posted anywhere, so it can't be found on any page on the internet.

But in any case, I find it suspicious that I never ever received a single spam on this email, that has been existing for a couple of years already, and I suddenly receive 2 spams a few days after allofmp3.com, who were the ONLY company knowing this email, go out of business.
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Sounds like a nice "screw you formerly-valuable customer" parting gift from them. . .

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New site is bogus....

You can't even enter payments on the new site...
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Re: New site is bogus....

said by ptrowski See Profile :

You can't even enter payments on the new site...
You should probably actually try something before you post about it. Log in and click "Payment Methods" on the lower right. Takes you to the payment processor where you can enter your CC or debit card numbers.

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Re: New site is bogus....

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said by ptrowski See Profile :

You can't even enter payments on the new site...
You should probably actually try something before you post about it. Log in and click "Payment Methods" on the lower right. Takes you to the payment processor where you can enter your CC or debit card numbers.
Thanks boss, but it keeps telling me they are unable to accept credit cards at this time. I was logged in, so try not to be a jackass next time.

"Unfortunately credit card payment is not available at the moment. Please come back later or try another method of payment "

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Re: New site is bogus....

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said by ke4pym See Profile :

said by ptrowski See Profile :

You can't even enter payments on the new site...
You should probably actually try something before you post about it. Log in and click "Payment Methods" on the lower right. Takes you to the payment processor where you can enter your CC or debit card numbers.
Thanks boss, but it keeps telling me they are unable to accept credit cards at this time. I was logged in, so try not to be a jackass next time.

"Unfortunately credit card payment is not available at the moment. Please come back later or try another method of payment "

Odd, because I went all the way through to the ChronoPay site before I posted. To check, I just tried it again and add bumped my account by $15 with no issues using a Mastercard.

As far as being a jackass, it's what I do.

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Re: New site is bogus....

said by ke4pym See Profile :

Odd, because I went all the way through to the ChronoPay site before I posted. To check, I just tried it again and add bumped my account by $15 with no issues using a Mastercard.

As far as being a jackass, it's what I do.
Then you are an expert in your field.
Tried again, nothing.
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Re: New site is bogus....

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said by ke4pym See Profile :

said by ptrowski See Profile :

You can't even enter payments on the new site...
You should probably actually try something before you post about it. Log in and click "Payment Methods" on the lower right. Takes you to the payment processor where you can enter your CC or debit card numbers.
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I guess he did not try it before he posted. Should take his own advice.
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Where's the Money?

So how do I get my money back from them? If I don't, can I write it off as a tax deduction?

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Re: Where's the Money?

said by knorwitz See Profile :

So how do I get my money back from them? If I don't, can I write it off as a tax deduction?
You do realize that you still committed copyright infringement by using their site right? Downloading a free version of the song is no different than using that site.

In other words, you've been wasting your money the whole time.

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Re: Where's the Money?

Not really, the quality of the music plus ease of use was well worth it. I used them in the past, never had an issue.

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Re: Where's the Money?

Exactly. That was one of the most sophisticated, well done, visually attractive, high tech sites I have ever used. They knew who their market is. Too bad the US record companies can't see that. The ability to choose the compression and type of the cut, order and pick up when complete, and pay accordingly was great. The ability to listen to a complete low res cut via a very sophisticated player that did not need a client side application was great! Selection was a bit limited, but not by much.

The problem is that the GREEDY record companies wanted their over zealous cut and didn't like that commerce was being done that would impose on their strangle hold on the market. That was the pressure that the US was putting on the Russian government and the only pressure. There was no other issue that was in play, just AOMP3. It wasn't copyright infringement. Look at all the screaming that happened when Jobs opened the iTunes Store. Now that he's done the numbers via bulk instead of price, they have stopped whining. It has changed the market in our favor. Too bad the record companies are too stingy to create sites that are as full featured, consumer friendly, and affordable as AllOfMP3.com. We'll never see nor have the options that were offered there because of their need for control.

I use to work in the recording industry and it is one big scam. So the rappers don't make millions to pimp out their rides, the company Exec's don't make enough to keep a mistress or pool boy on the side, the hardcore rockers enough to keep them in drugs and booze, the CW singers in haircare products and tour buses. This is suppose to be an art form that unfortunately these days has become a step to the other side of the rainbow. AOMP3 was the consumers pot at the end of the rainbow and with the changing state of music and its distribution they better stock up on tour buses while they can.

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said by Omega See Profile :

In other words, you've been wasting your money the whole time.
why do you care?
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Not true , what you don't understand is that it is legal under russian statutes. They pay royalties to the russian equivalent. They are completely legit on the russian side.

I said this before and I will say it again. This is a global economy now. The customers found a cheaper source for music that is a legal grey area and the RIAA don't like it.

We are not the police of the world , and this country needs to get off it's high horse and realize we need to stop meddling in others affairs.

Why does the RIAA have so much pull ? Why can they basically start a digital war between 2 countries ? I wish for once these dumb shits in this government would stand up for the people and not for the corporations.

We need a serious reform in this government and unfortunately this won't happen because people like yourself feel that anything is wrong because it's wrong here. Man that is why we are so hated in this world , the elitist attitude has to stop.

And I for one welcome our new world order overlords.
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It's not like he was already commiting copyright infringement just by having money on the account. Oh and for your information allofmp3 didn't just sell the RIAA's garbage.

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Re: Where's the Money?

Trouble is that the RIAA doesn't recognize that distinction. They're a bit like the US government in that respect. What's their's is their's and what's your's is their's.

In the past, the RIAA sued people on "behalf" of non-member artists. There was a bit of debate about the appropriateness of that last year. There were two issues involved that were a more than a little controversial. First was that some of the legal actions were taken on the "behalf" of these artists, not only without their request, but sometimes against the desire of the artist. The second issue was that the RIAA wasn't willing to hand over any settlement money to these non-member artists. The money was said to be "held" in "trusts" set up by the RIAA until these artists became members or were signed by member companies.

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so this is what Bush and Putin were discussing in Maine...

wow, such IMPORTANT world issues. Nukes run rampant and terrorists strike everywhere....BUT WE GOTTA SHUT DOWN DEM THAT PIRATE SITES.

You fucking RIAA tools...

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Re: so this is what Bush and Putin were discussing in Maine...

said by inteller See Profile :

You fucking RIAA tools...
Vladimir Putin used to run the KGB/FSB. I seriously doubt he would take any crap from the RIAA or any other such organization. AllofMP3.com was probably shut down for some other reason.
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Why not just take them over (Putin) or send in more black bag ops teams (Bush)?

Not to stray too far off topic, but does anyone find it odd, in a surreal reality kind of way, this much attention is being lavished on this kind of largely innocuous crap? While at the same time we both (US and Russia) have runaway corruption in government gallivanting around the world like it was the biggest game of RISK in history?

Healthcare out of control, school systems churning out an ever lower standard of citizen, environmental issues all over the place, energy concerns, human rights breeches abound, executive government out of control...etc and yet exceedingly large amounts of time an energy are being poured into tracking down those that copy bits of information from here to there?

I wonder sometimes whether this is all some bizarre dream, but I dont think I have the imagination to create all this.

The world truly needs a perspective check.

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We all knew

All knew this was going to happen months ago, it was just a matter of when. The new site has been up for at least a few weeks now. The new site is having the same problem like the the last site, they can't take any credit cards as forms of payment.

About the same time this news comes out, we read of Universal being a thorn in Apple's side and the RIAA being a thorn in the webcaster's side. The RIAA should take example of allofmp3 instead of being a thorn in people's sides.

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They aren't pirates.

If it is legal in russia, how does that still make them pirates?
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Re: They aren't pirates.

artists are starving !

and yes that was a joke

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Re: They aren't pirates.

said by the niTz See Profile :

artists are starving !

and yes that was a joke
Starving? nah. have you seen concert ticket prices lately. somehow i doubt theyre in the soup line.
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said by the niTz See Profile :

Artists are starving!
When I see Britney out on the street with a sign "Will sing (among other things) for food", I might believe that. Until then, nice try, RIAA.
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Who cares

Folks, just learn russian language, there are thousands similar websites in russian language and most of them I guess owned by the same people allofmp3 is/was.

They all have the same catalog and sometimes more and all for $0.10 per song....

It is just the allofmp3 became so popular outside of RUNet, that the government had to close them down... Nothing has changed...
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Re: Who cares

there's no way to add money to the site... i tried refilling my balance and got this error: Unfortunately credit card payment is not available at the moment. Please come back later or try another method of payment
in bright red letters... it says to choose another payment method, but they only offer credit/debit lol...oh well.

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said by steveymacjr See Profile :

there's no way to add money to the site... i tried refilling my balance and got this error: Unfortunately credit card payment is not available at the moment. Please come back later or try another method of payment
in bright red letters... it says to choose another payment method, but they only offer credit/debit lol...oh well.
According to Einstein here you should try it before you post...
»Re: New site is bogus....

I got the same error notice.
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Re: Who cares

said by ptrowski See Profile :

said by steveymacjr See Profile :

there's no way to add money to the site... i tried refilling my balance and got this error: Unfortunately credit card payment is not available at the moment. Please come back later or try another method of payment
in bright red letters... it says to choose another payment method, but they only offer credit/debit lol...oh well.
According to Einstein here you should try it before you post...
»Re: New site is bogus....

I got the same error notice.
No problems adding to my balance. Everything working fine, at least now it is>
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Re: Who cares

I just tried again, no dice.

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You steal, you go to jail. As it should be.

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Re: Eventually all Pirates will go to jail

said by DoTheTime :

You steal, you go to jail. As it should be.
Are you running out of ideas Taylor Troll? I was expecting a far more quality entertainment from you, you are starting to disappoint me...
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You get 5 points!

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Re: You get 5 points!

Not that hard to peg Taylor. Especially nowadays when his posts are weak. Taylor I can tell you're getting tired.
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Acording to the Russian law, all those sites are legal. And there is nothing can be done for now to change it.

Many other countries have their own laws. But most of them accept payments only from inside of the country...

I have never used ALLOFMP3 in my life, but again - their site was not illegal. They just were a problem for iTunes of the world that is why they were targeted.

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Re: Eventually all Pirates will go to jail

said by Zoly See Profile :

Acording to the Russian law, all those sites are legal.
I am just curious. Do you actually know Russian Law and are also a lawyer in current standing in Russia or are you just repeating something you read on a web page thinking that it makes it true?
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More Details

»www.theregister.com/2007/07/03/a···p3_gone/

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Re: More Details

Not that much more details.

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Good Riddence

Always a matter of "when" not "if"
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zzz

*Yawn*

So what's new?

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Alltunes still works

Balance is still there etc.

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Re: Alltunes still works

Can't connect to that now either, I wanted to try and use up my last $2, but I think I can live with that.
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I'd be happy to download via Itunes if...

The tracks were all DRM free, so I can freely play them on any mp3 player I choose, be it a computer, or my Iriver player.
I'd also be happy to download from Itunes if they'd make the interface accessible to users such as myself who are totally blind and rely on screen reading software which does best with text, not gobs and gobs of graphics. I'd happily pay for music if I can download at max line speed, and the music is DRM free. You're not told that you can only play your purchased CD in Sony CD players, so you shouldn't be told how or where you can play content you shelled out money for that's online!
What is it going to take for these **AA idiots to realize this?

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AllOfMP3 is Shut Down

So what happened to our balance?

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Re: AllOfMP3 is Shut Down

I've always used the Alltunes software which was part of the Allofmp3.com site and that is still working for me, although the allofmp3.com site is not. Hmmm...

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Re: AllOfMP3 is Shut Down

Thanks

snolsen

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My balance was still at allTunes.

When I tried to refill my balance:
Purchase of a PIN code is processed by the server of the international transaction company Chronopay. A secure connection protected by the SSL 3.0 protocol is used and all measures necessary to make a safe payment are being taken. The link took me to the main page, not something set up for allTunes. I couldn't refill....

Also didn't work trying a credit card:
Payment temporarily unavailable

Unfortunately, the payment could not be processed currently.

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There will always be alternatives, right?

The have been - and always will be - alternatives around. Besides p2p, there are other supposedly legal music services out there that charge the same kind of money as allofmp3 - there is a list of them at »www.songboom.com (and reviews and comparisons).

There will always be alternatives.
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Re: There will always be alternatives, right?

Allofmp3 was best, because has no drm and real time encoding - from 192 to 320 kbps I liked "him". But russian mp3 stores it is whole world, about existense you don't know, i write wide articles »hubpages.com/hub/russianmp3site... about 20 sites like allofmp3.
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