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| Re: LOL said by freedom4all34 :good for them! I hope something comes good comes out of this for their website. While I support file sharing as a protest against the RIAA, I don't support a company making a profit off of someone else's work with no compensation. I don't like the RIAA and major record companies because they act as a middle-man between artists and consumers, ripping off both for their own profit.
AllofMP3 is ripping off the artist, the record execs, and benefiting the consumer. What we need is a service that benefits both artists and consumers. I will support that.
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| Re: LOL AllofMP3 does pay royalties to ROMS (Russian equivalent of ASCAP). As a matter of fact their website states they pay something like 15% to that organization and is considering paying an additional 5% directly to the artists. The RIAA's complaint is they are undercutting the U.S. labels' own inflated profit margin. All the copyright holder has to do is register with ROMS or FAIR to collect their compensation. This is exactly how it's done in the states with ASCAP and BMI. | |
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| Re: LOL said by Maxo  :Thanks for the correction. This is not what I was told. Do you have a link covering this? Umm, yeah. The link from the article above. It's the one regarding the position paper from allofmp3.com. Do people here just read the synopsis and then start commenting without following any links in the story?
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join:2005-05-26
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| Re: LOL said by bbenso1 : Do people here just read the synopsis and then start commenting without following any links in the story? You are just now figuring this out? lol | |
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join:2001-01-19
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| Re: LOL said by tc1uscg :Allofmp3.com does not share files. Please provide a link to back up what your stating. Just read the whole thread. | |
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1 edit | Re: LOL said by Maxo :said by tc1uscg :Allofmp3.com does not share files. Please provide a link to back up what your stating. Just read the whole thread. I did. I've read half dozen write ups on other web sites that make it a business to investigate this kind of stuff and they did come to any conclusions that allofmp3 or searchmp3 were doing something wrong. Since we allow the RIAA to write who we can buy from or how much we SHOULD pay, we seem to go along with it. I'm still waiting for a NON RIAA website to spell out the law that is being broken by allofmp3 other then not ripping off people to BUY music (notice I didn't say SHARE). | |
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1 edit | I'm no lawyer but... I read over that article and it seems they have some valid points there. I don't know russian law, but it seems purely political pressure can't shut them down unless they change their laws. However, laws can be interpreted in different ways, so this is just their interpretation of it.
The pressure on sites like thepiratebay.org and allofmp3.com, from my viewpoint - perhaps naive, have been purely from political pressure and not legal.
Where'd all this political pressure come from? I'd assume mostly the **AAs.
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Cedar Park, TX | Re: I'm no lawyer but... Cold war phobias..... You mean like polonium-210?
Just because you think they are out to get you, doesn't mean they aren't.
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| Re: I'm no lawyer but... said by Enlightener :Cold war phobias..... You mean like polonium-210? Just because you think they are out to get you, doesn't mean they aren't. I suspect AllOfMp3 will be down soon. Mental note to self: When in London, don't order your sushi with the "nuclear" wasabi...
Hmm, Sushi for lunch, sounds good.
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| said by N3OGH :said by Enlightener :Cold war phobias..... You mean like polonium-210? Just because you think they are out to get you, doesn't mean they aren't. I suspect AllOfMp3 will be down soon. Mental note to self: When in London, don't order your sushi with the "nuclear" wasabi... Polonium-210? Tastes like Chicken! 
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| Well I don't think you can compare AllOfMP3.com with PirateBay. AllOfMP3.com is an actual place to purchase the music within at least the local law. Pirate Bay is more a place to share files to try to get around the law. I like AllOfMP3.com. You can purchase high quality DRM free music in several different formats and at a cheap price. I wouldn't mind paying US prices if it was high quality DRM free music in a format of my choosing. The problem with any P2P is that you never know what you are going to get. Could be the song you want with a crappy bitrate. Could the song you want with parts cut out of it or cut short. Could be the right song wrong singer or could even be the totally wrong song. I could go on... | |
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1 edit | Re: I'm no lawyer but... said by AnnaS8 :Well I don't think you can compare AllOfMP3.com with PirateBay. AllOfMP3.com is an actual place to purchase the music within at least the local law. Pirate Bay is more a place to share files to try to get around the law. I like AllOfMP3.com. You can purchase high quality DRM free music in several different formats and at a cheap price. I wouldn't mind paying US prices if it was high quality DRM free music in a format of my choosing. The problem with any P2P is that you never know what you are going to get. Could be the song you want with a crappy bitrate. Could the song you want with parts cut out of it or cut short. Could be the right song wrong singer or could even be the totally wrong song. I could go on... I agree, if I could buy lossless audio files, such as FLAC online I would pay to download. Though I do think album prices should still be no more than $10. | |
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join:2000-10-05
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| Knock, knock Laws can always be changed with enough pressure. Whether that be cold hard cash from US companies, blocking an invite to the WTO, or the personal touch of hired goons.
The rumor is that AllofMP3 is connected with the Russian mob, so if true I guess we'll get to see whether hired goons are more convincing than the rest. | |
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join:2004-06-01
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| Re: Knock, knock said by russotto :The rumor is that AllofMP3 is connected with the Russian mob, so if true I guess we'll get to see whether hired goons are more convincing than the rest. On that note
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| Re: Knock, knock said by oroper :said by russotto :The rumor is that AllofMP3 is connected with the Russian mob, so if true I guess we'll get to see whether hired goons are more convincing than the rest. On that note what happened to the good old days when mobs would put hits out on anyone messing with their business . . . even when the me$$ers were in a different country . . .
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| I don't see how that would make a difference. The reason the songs are sold so cheap is because the value of a dollar in Russia is a lot higher. Average weekly income barely hits $90, so buying a $.10 - $.20 song track in Russia equates to about $.80 here. It's not like the mob selling cigarettes cheaper because they undercut regulatory fees and taxes. | |
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join:2002-10-21
Lagrange, GA | What's the Big Deal About This? What is so illegal? They are selling instead of giving away for free. Or is it that they aren't sharing with the RIAA? | |
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| Re: What's the Big Deal About This? said by CSU :What is so illegal? That they aren't sharing with the RIAA? Would be my guess. | |
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| Re: What's the Big Deal About This? I would like to note that iirc allofmp3 offered to pay the RIAA a portion of the proceeds - but was flat out refused by the RIAA.
I can't find an article, so sorry 
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| Re: What's the Big Deal About This? Unless I'm thinking of something different, it's not that AllOfMP3 offered to pay the RIAA. ROMS (which AllOfMP3 pays) offered to give money to the recording industry, but they refused lest they make it seem to be legit. (Better in their minds to refuse all payment and then complain about how they aren't getting paid.)
AllOfMP3 has also been considering giving some extra money directly to the artists, but that hasn't been done yet. | |
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That sounds more correct, thanks.
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join:2000-09-16
Portland, OR
| Could it be that they are selling MP3s that aren't theirs? That they didn't make a deal with the artists or recording companies (no I'm not talking the RIAA) to sell their (the artists) work online?
I don't have the answers... but would be interested in what are the answers to those questions.
Afterall, if they don't have permission from the copyright holders then they are illegally (at least from a US law, not necessarily Russian law) selling the songs.
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Domain Name: ALLOFMP3.COM
Created on..............: Tue, Jun 20, 2000
Expires on..............: Fri, Jun 20, 2008
Record last updated on..: Thu, Feb 23, 2006
The Question should be why are they Complaining about this now.it's been around 6 Years?
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viperpa33s
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| Allofmp3 proved it From what I read on the alofmp3 site is, the RIAA is not excepting the money from there Russian counterparts cause it would make it look like th RIAA is approving of allofmp3. Whether that is true or not, that is up for discussion.
I think the RIAA wants to shutdown allofmp3 for 1 reason Allofmo3 is selling music outside of Russia, and by letting people from the states buy from allofmp3 it is undercutting companies here. Another reason could be they are circumventing the copyright protection on the CD to put the music on there site.
It would be the same if you live here and buy prescription drugs from Canada. Your paying a cheaper price and undercutting what the drug companies charge in the states. Also it's like having region codes on DVDs. A person from the states wouldn't be able to play a DVD they got from France due to the region code.
I think allofmp3 will survive all this but will be changed. Allofmp3 proved that people are willing to pay for music if you give people what they want within reason and without DRM. I think I read that allofmp3 is the second popular music site behind ITunes.
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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| Re: Allofmp3 proved it The region coding on DVD's is a joke. There are DVD players that can be hacked so they will play any region without problems. Easier still is just get a cheap DVD player for your computer. I have one setup for region 2 which covers the DVD's I order directly from England and Australia. What I find interesting it is the people from other regions that want to play the DVD from region 1 which is North America, because they are cheaper.
Dealing with the RIAA is like trying to herd cats, negotiations are impossible the companies they represent control so much of the music market they feel they can dictate terms. Because of this altitude they are losing control of the whole ball of wax.
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| People who go to other countries to buy things dont do it because of nefarious reasons, and I am tired of the RIAA and the drug companies implying that. For example, I buy contacts from Canada, because I dont need a prescription. I am not going to go pay an eye doctor $200 to tell me my eyes haven't changed in the month between when my Rx expired and now, when I need new lenses. I am also ordering some videos (and a region free DVD player) that I have long wanted, from Germany. These videos are unavailable here--and due to wrangling over US copyrights, probably never will be. So I go where I can find them. I am just someone who loves music and wants to see, I am not wanting to profit or rip anyone off.
Just like I would buy a cd from allofmp3.com *because I cannot buy it on iTunes*. For example, I would love to get the Fratellis "Costello Music"--a band that is pretty popular in the UK right now. You can buy it on Apple's iTunes UK site, but not the US one, which is the one I am forced to purchase from. So I either *download it illegally* or *buy it* from allofmp3.com. Whose fault is this? THE RIAA! Their restrictive licenses make it impossible for me to buy it legitimately on the UK iTunes site.
And there is no one, anywhere at this time, who sells my absolute favorite band of all, The Beatles--except allofMP3. The Beatles themselves have held this up--but it aint gonna stop people from wanting their tunes on their iPods. | |
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Alexandria, VA | So, What Happens When A free dilivery of polonium-pizza arrives at AllofMP3's offices?
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| Re: So, What Happens When said by nixen :A free dilivery of polonium-pizza arrives at AllofMP3's offices? -tom AllofMp3's will make a press release that under Russian law, it's legal to sell Polonium and then they will immediately open up a website, allofpolonium.com
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| AllofMP3 is WRONG "They've also issued a position paper explaining exactly how their operations are perfectly legal in Russia. The FAQ also suggests it's legal for United States citizens to use the service."
Well gambling websites are perfectly legal in Britian. Americans can't bet at British online casinos. Secondly any county that wants to be part of the WTO is REQUIRED to abide by the commerce laws of the countries they wish to do business with. So I'm not sure where AllofMP3 is getting their legal advise. | |
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AmeritecTech
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| Re: Not Likely To Survive said by AmeritecTech :Russia is assassinating people on foreign soil. They're not going to let something like the law get in their way. so true, they will shutdown allowfmp3.com and will send allot of them to jail for next 25 years. If richest person in russia got sent to jail for b/s reason, i am sure gov can find a way to send allowfmp3.com | |
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join:2004-07-28
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1 edit | Russians are honest and respectable "Dead spy's contact has radiation
The same radioactive substance ingested by former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko before his death has been found in a person who had close contact with him, health officials in Britain said today."
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"Wife of poisoned Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko tests positive for same deadly radioactive substance that killed him, family source says." | |
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| How do YOU pay? I was thinking of getting an account a month or two ago.
I'm not too fond of using a credit card both for the possibility of fraud, but I also don't want the RIAA one day getting all the records and then doing a massive back-billing.
Most of the services they accept for payment seemed a bit dodgy (no paypal).
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