  LiamJunket Premium join:2002-03-03 Ocean City, NJ
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| Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas??
The divestitures required cover the entire states of North Dakota and South Dakota; large portions of the states of Colorado, Georgia, Kansas, Montana, South Carolina, Utah and Wyoming; and portions of the states of Alabama, Arizona, California, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia.
I wonder who will jump in and buy the wireless spectrum in all these areas? AT&T? T-Mobile? Because both of those have GSM based systems and the areas being sold are on CDMA.
The only one left to buy these areas would be Sprint, who is using the same technology. Does Sprint have the money right now to buy them up and at what price. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? | |
|  |   baineschile Premium join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? The only time you should be using "sprint" and "buying" in the same sentence would be..."TMobile is planning on buying sprint this spring" | |
|  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? said by baineschile :The only time you should be using "sprint" and "buying" in the same sentence would be..."TMobile is planning on buying sprint this spring" Sprint has been excellent for me here in DC and the New York metro area. Best plans by a mile, and the service is fast and reliable for me. Did you catch the latest news on their greatly improved customer service?
Sprint is making a comeback. | |
|  |  |  |   en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
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| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? Sprint may have 'plans' to make a comeback, however, it needs some investment funding to do much. Sprint has more debt than they have cash. While their market cap is 40B, their credit rating, the economy, and the fact that Sprint is spending a lot of resources on Xohm, they have little leverage. They have chosen to keep iDEN... that was worth at least 'something'.
»finance.yahoo.com/q?s=S »finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=S
Profitability Profit Margin (ttm): -78.99% Operating Margin (ttm): 1.13%
Management Effectiveness Return on Assets (ttm): 0.34% Return on Equity (ttm): -82.80%
Balance Sheet Total Cash (mrq): 3.50B Total Cash Per Share (mrq): 1.227 Total Debt (mrq): 22.98B Total Debt/Equity (mrq): 1.074 Current Ratio (mrq): 1.25 Book Value Per Share (mrq): 7.504 Cash Flow Statement Operating Cash Flow (ttm): 8.00B Levered Free Cash Flow (ttm): 1.98B | |
|  |  |  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA | Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? The US has WAY more debt than cash. I think we will make a comeback, too. Call me an optimist.  | |
|  |  |  |  |  |   en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
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| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? While that is true... we're not out to purchase another country tomorrow. We'll be paying for the interest on that debt over the next quarter century. If Sprint (or another company) is out to purchase bits of Alltel, they would be doing it 'now', and not waiting for the 'comeback' to have enough money/financial backing to go and purchase more. Sprint needs to rid itself of some assets to purchase anything.
- iDEN, looks like its sticking around - They just recently sold towers (that helps)
Time to clean house. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
|  |  |  |   S_engineer
join:2007-05-16 Chicago, IL
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| US cellular could take a few of the midwest markets. I've had them all, and they've been the most reliable in and around chi-town.
BTW...your joking about sprint right?....they've not only burned too many bridges for a comeback, they did it with a scorched earth policy!
If your working for them, I suggest other employment -- "For duty and humanity!" - Moe Larry and Curly (MEN IN BLACK, 1934)...These are the guys we have in Congress | |
|  |  |  |  |   en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
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| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? There are a few rural providers out there in the midwest which could/should work well. I hope they'd split the GSM/CDMA up on those that are sold.
GSM (Alltel had GSM too): Iowa Wireless, Viaero Wireless, Commnet.
CDMA - Whatever rural carrier is left
As mentioned before... who can get investment $$$ to purchase pieces of Alltel's network. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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join:2007-05-16 Chicago, IL
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| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? Your right about the cash for investment. Well maybe the govt can bailout the Wireless carrier businesses with billions so they too can make acquisitions and pay themselves collectively billions in bonuses  -- "For duty and humanity!" - Moe Larry and Curly (MEN IN BLACK, 1934)...These are the guys we have in Congress | |
|  |  |  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| said by S_engineer :If your working for them, I suggest other employment I would never work for a large corporation again. I learned my lesson after working for 3M's Telecom Division. Hate the impersonal atmosphere of it all and the enormous waste of resources. If a company has a stock symbol, they won't get my resume. I left a company when they decided to go public. I'd do it again, too. Don't want any part of that anymore, and I am much happier because of this decision.
Profitability is one thing, growing is another. Too many times I see quality disappear as once great businesses feel compelled to spread out. Oftentimes this growth destroys the very ideals that made them excel in the first place. When a company is in business solely to grow, which many undoubtedly are, I keep my distance.
I'd rather create and sell a couple of paintings each week than have a press stamp out hundreds of them for a discount and maximum profits. To each his own, I suppose; but I know what makes me happy. | |
|  |  |  |  |   StarFish267
join:2005-11-25 Fort Worth, TX | I thought AT&T owned US Cellular now? | |
|  |  |  |  |  |   tyler
@comcast.net
| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? said by StarFish267 :I thought AT&T owned US Cellular now? thats cellular one your thinking of. | |
|  |  |  |   justtoletuknow
@verizon.com | I guess u didnt know that the areas u just mentioned Sprint customers are using VZ towers/cell sites for covereage. So when u say yeah spring for their svc...u actually saying yeah VZ | |
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| Re: Will Sprint be buying up all the divested areas?? said by justtoletuknow :
I guess u didnt know that the areas u just mentioned Sprint customers are using VZ towers/cell sites for covereage. So when u say yeah spring for their svc...u actually saying yeah VZ Huh? What exactly are you trying to say? | |
|  |  |  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| said by justtoletuknow :
I guess u didnt know that the areas u just mentioned Sprint customers are using VZ towers/cell sites for covereage. So when u say yeah spring for their svc...u actually saying yeah VZ Only for EV-DO, not voice. We still can't hear you now. 
Actually, voice quality works extremely well for me, I just don't happen to use it too often. | |
|  |  bgreen965
join:2005-04-26 Savannah, GA
| I think Alltel has GSM up on a lot of their towers to bring in additional roaming revenue. So a buy by a GSM company would not be out of the question. Plus AT&T could desperately use some 800Mhz spectrum in some of these areas to help with the deployment of reliable 3G. | |
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join:2001-04-17 Addison, IL
| said by LiamJunket :I wonder who will jump in and buy the wireless spectrum in all these areas? AT&T? T-Mobile? Because both of those have GSM based systems and the areas being sold are on CDMA. The only one left to buy these areas would be Sprint, who is using the same technology. Does Sprint have the money right now to buy them up and at what price. US Cellular? | |
|  |  hottboiinnc ME
join:2003-10-15 Toledo, OH | You forget that Leap, MetroPCS, and Revol are CDMA carriers and could pick up what is sold off. What is in Ohio could go to Revol or MetroPCS and make them a HUGE threat to any other carrier in the state. | |
|  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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| Sprint Roaming Agreement? I wonder if this will have any impact on Sprint's excellent roaming agreement with Alltel and Verizon?
It's been nice having the EV-DO data available from all of Verizon's towers, as it increases my Blackberry coverage immensely. I know Sprint has an agreement with Alltel as well, but but for voice, data, and EV-DO. This was a 10 year agreement from 2006. Hopefully the agreement is binding for the duration of the term, even with this new merger. | |
|  |   Fox McCloud Crazy like a fox.
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| Re: Sprint Roaming Agreement? said by jmn1207 :I wonder if this will have any impact on Sprint's excellent roaming agreement with Alltel and Verizon? It's been nice having the EV-DO data available from all of Verizon's towers, as it increases my Blackberry coverage immensely. I know Sprint has an agreement with Alltel as well, but but for voice, data, and EV-DO. This was a 10 year agreement from 2006. Hopefully the agreement is binding for the duration of the term, even with this new merger. what would be even better (though I doubt it'll happen) is if Verizon extended the EVDO roaming agreement to their entire network (ie: Alltel+Verizon) to Sprint once it's all said and done, and visa-versa--with that kind of set up Sprint and Verizon+Alltel could have loose partnership where-in they could co-operate to take on AT&T.
Doubt it'll happen though. -- "True Patriotism is more closely linked with dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security...I accept the definition of patriotism as that effort to resist abusive state power." -Ron Paul | |
|  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA | Re: Sprint Roaming Agreement? I believe Sprint already takes advantage of both Alltel and Verizon with EV-DO, as far as I know. Verizon can use Sprint and Sprint can use Verizon and Alltel. Obviously Verizon will be able to utilize Alltel as well, now. | |
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| Re: Sprint Roaming Agreement? Sprint and Alltel have an EVDO roaming agreement but Verizon does not roam EVDO with anyone yet. The terms of the deal though specifically say that Verizon will honor all existing roaming agreements. I believe Sprint still has a 10 year agreement with Alltel. | |
|  |  |  |  |   jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA
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1 edit | Re: Sprint Roaming Agreement? said by xenophon :Sprint and Alltel have an EVDO roaming agreement but Verizon does not roam EVDO with anyone yet. The terms of the deal though specifically say that Verizon will honor all existing roaming agreements. I believe Sprint still has a 10 year agreement with Alltel. Ah, that is right. Sprint has a roaming agreement for 1x with Verizon. This is good, because Sprint's Power Vision is still accessible at 1x, not just EV-DO. Sprint has the same deal with US Cellular. Nice to know things will stay the same for the duration of my plan. | |
|  Hasher
join:2000-06-19 Rocky River, OH | Merger. So the new commercial STARTS out with CHAD.
The SCENE OPENS with CHAD lying in bed with the VERIZON guy and the rest of the crew looking on ...
the TAG LINE
"LOOKS LIKE MY CIRCLE NOW INCLUDES VERIZON" | |
|  |   opus74 Deep Thought Premium join:2002-03-04 Coello, IL clubs: 
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| Re: Merger. said by Hasher :So the new commercial STARTS out with CHAD. The SCENE OPENS with CHAD lying in bed with the VERIZON guy and the rest of the crew looking on ... the TAG LINE "LOOKS LIKE MY CIRCLE NOW INCLUDES VERIZON" You forgot the verizon guy...going "can you hear me now?".... | |
|  voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27 Kalispell, MT
| Divesting won't be easy. Given the current economic climate, I think Verizon may have some problems finding buyers. Most of the markets that Verizon wants to dump aren't in highly-urban areas and, therefore, aren't of interest to the big carriers. Rural carriers are probably going to have even more hurdles in finding financing these days than their larger, urban cousins. Truthfully, don't expect GSM companies to be interested--TMobile won spectrum rights to parts of these regions several years ago and hasn't chosen to deploy the technology due to cost/profit concerns. Alltel's GSM coverage was simply for roaming agreements and probably isn't robust enough to warrant interest in purchasing those assets. I wouldn't be surprised to see yet another investment consortium going into partnership to buy some areas that may seem desirable (i.e, they can hold on to the asset for max of 12 months and then sell for profit, less likely in the markets being dumped). The interesting thing will be whether Verizon just shuts off service if they can't find buyers within a reasonable time frame. Clearly, no one, especially the FCC, cares about the affected consumers. | |
|   bofkentucky
@insightbb.com | No kentucky divestures I guess Bluegrass Cellular in KY and Eloqui in TN are going to be surrounded and eventually absorbed into VZW. I was kind of hoping they would get a chance to break out and see some growth
/Ex Bluegrass guy | |
|   Simba7
join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT
| Yep.. We're screwed.. Being an Alltel Smartphone Customer (I have an HTC PPC-6800), I've enjoyed the "My Circle" and the Unlimited Data Plans. I'm not pleased that Alltel is becoming Verizon.
If I have to switch to Verizon, all that is history. I'll be stuck with a 5Gig/Month cap (which really screws me over), I'll be using my minutes all the time due to the "My Circle" being yanked, and I'll have to deal with "them".
In my honest opinion, I feel like I'm about to get a rather huge shaft up the rectum and have it stay there permanently.
..and Verizon can call it whatever they want.. They can say that they're using divestiture to prevent them from monopolizing, but that's bullsh*t. They're destroying Alltel so they can regain their dominance and to hell with the customers.
The point is, Verizon knew about this. They already have service in those areas. Therefore, by destroying Alltel, their competition is far, far less and they can charge whatever they want. It's the consumer in the end that gets the shaft. -- Bresnan 15M/1M|Mine[P4HT 3.2GHz,2GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,WinXP]|Wife's[P4 2.4GHz,1GB RAM,60GB HDD,WinXP]|Router[2xP3@1GHz,640MB RAM,18GB HDD,Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX,Kingston KNE100TX,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,iPro/1000DP,Blitz BWI715,Gentoo] | |
|  |  voipdabbler
join:2006-04-27 Kalispell, MT
| Re: Yep.. We're screwed.. Simba,
We're in one of the states that Verizon is dropping so you won't need to worry about living with Verizon's service plans--they won't be operating here. We're likely to simply see service cut off--I really don't see anyone stepping in to purchase assets in states that are mainly rural in this economic climate. Rural carriers face more hurdles for financing in normal economic times--they're going to have major problems in this economic climate. Truthfully, I was hoping that Verizon's financing would fall through and therefore kill this deal. The FCC is basically allowing thousands of rural customers to be dropped. T Mobile won spectrum rights in many of the divested areas in the federal auctions several years ago and isn't interested in developing GSM in those areas. Alltel's GSM equipment in place in some areas is simply for roaming agreements and isn't robust enough to be of interest since significant investment would be required to generate robust local service. T Mobile just doesn't see that being profitable in non-urban areas. Sprint won't be interested either, given the problems with getting financing. I just see service being cut off, consumers be damned. | |
|  |   jasont1273
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| said by Simba7 :If I have to switch to Verizon, all that is history. I'll be stuck with a 5Gig/Month cap (which really screws me over), I'll be using my minutes all the time due to the "My Circle" being yanked, and I'll have to deal with "them". What are you doing on a PDA that sucks up over 5GB a month? I know people that play World of Warcraft on an aircard that don't use that damn much! | |
|   Kallan Dahn
@charter.com
| Live Coverage of FCC Meeting I will be covering the FCC meeting live from my blog. If anyone would like to join, you can do so at
»cellgeek.blogspot.com/2008/10/li···ing.html
The meeting has been pushed back this morning so I am still waiting for it to begin. | |
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