 drobi78 join:2001-04-27 Montgomery, AL 1 edit | LTE is not GSM This story states Verizon will be migrating to GSM but the truth is LTE has nothing to do with GSM. It is true that most GSM providers are migrating to LTE as an evolution path but they should not be confused. | |
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 |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | Re: LTE is not GSM quote: The LTE project is not a standard, but it will result in the new evolved release 8 of the UMTS standard, including mostly or wholly extensions and modifications of the UMTS system.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_···volution
LTE is GSM over packet switched networks. It will be compatible with existing GSM technologies/protocols with minor conversions (billing and roaming for example).
Your trying to make it sound like its as different as CDMA and GSM are protocol wise. Yes, LTE will be a different modulation (they are finally adding QAM64, prepare for slow cable modem speeds ), and a somewhat different protocol, but its not "written from scratch" and not compatible with anything else. | |
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 |  |  JaM4150Premium join:2005-10-27 Matamoras, PA | Re: LTE is not GSM So does this mean that VZW customers in the future have SIM cards inside their phones? How about all the other benefits of a SIM card? | |
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 |  |  |  NOCManMacChatterPremium join:2004-09-30 Colorado Springs, CO | Re: LTE is not GSM I believe LTE eliminates the SIM card. Carriers do not want you moving around so easily. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: LTE is not GSM Ya right ! LTE will still have a SIM card.
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 |  |  |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | said by NOCMan:I believe LTE eliminates the SIM card. Carriers do not want you moving around so easily. Where did you hear this? | |
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 |  |  |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Only North American (basically Canada/US) carriers do not like people 'moving around' via SIM card. In many other countries, SIM cards, prepaid and non-subsidized phones are the norm. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | Re: LTE is not GSM Even CDMA phones outside North America have SIM-equivelent cards, sometimes Verizon/Sprint phones have left over card slots under the batteries, although they are useless because of firmware and network design, although if you can find a FW to flash the phone, you can take it to a country with RUIM CDMA networks. | |
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 dslwanterIt's comingPremium join:2002-12-16 Niles, OH | As long as... ...the pig doesn't buy them out first. | |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Theoretically
said by Article : LTE is theoretically capable of speeds up to 100Mbps with latency as low as 20ms
Which means we'll see 10Mbps, with 200ms latency, for twice what we're paying now. | |
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 |  patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1 | Re: Theoretically All circuit switching is gone from LTE. So voice must be IP traffic, now the question is, does LTE include QOS/prioritizing by default? | |
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| Re: Theoretically said by patcat88:All circuit switching is gone from LTE. So voice must be IP traffic, now the question is, does LTE include QOS/prioritizing by default? the wiki article states that HSPA+, and above have packet scheduling. LTE does have it. | |
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 |  jimkPremium join:2006-04-15 Raleigh, NC 1 edit | The price will probably stay about the same just like it did for most carriers when going from 1X to 1XEVDO. | |
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| said by Matt:Which means we'll see 10Mbps, with 200ms latency, for twice what we're paying now. I already get 100-150ms latency on AT&T's HSDPA network. My card is only capable of about 1.2Mbps, though. (Theoretically, it can do 1.8, but that would require a perfect radio environment, of course) -- It's wierdo, not weirdo. Yes, I know that's not the 'proper' spelling of the similar english language word.  | |
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If Sprint dumps Nextel and sharpens up their image, they could just buy Alltel....I'm sure if they did, those LTE plans would vanish overnight in favor of WiMAX. | |
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 |  jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | Re: LTE...that is...unless... Problems with that idea:
1. Sprint can't afford to buy anything. 2. Sprint claims they're keeping Nextel. 3. Sprint probably wouldn't want Alltel anyhow. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: LTE...that is...unless... said by jester121:Problems with that idea: 1. Sprint can't afford to buy anything. Yup, that is, unless they could generate enough revenue from selling Nextel.
2. Sprint claims they're keeping Nextel. Really, are you sure about that?
3. Sprint probably wouldn't want Alltel anyhow. Ehh, I don't think that's an accurate statement---Sprint and Alltel have had a very very close roaming agreement for quite a while (1xRTT voice and data and 1xEVDO)...they're both CDMA providers (not to mention Alltel has a lot of territory that Sprint does not).
It'd be hugely beneficial to Sprint, the question is, are they smart enough to do it? -- "True Patriotism is more closely linked with dissent than it is to conformity and a blind desire for safety and security...I accept the definition of patriotism as that effort to resist abusive state power." -Ron Paul | |
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| Re: LTE...that is...unless... With Sprint having the highest churn rate and they are losing customers like crazy. Their customer service is shitty as hell.. They are the least expensive carrier which they are not making as much profit as other companies. If anybody were to snatch up Alltel it wouls be Verizon . Sprint also has the crappiest network. I use to have them I can speak on that one. Thank god I left and went with Verizon. | |
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 |  |  |  |  ajw625 join:2004-01-04 Sandusky, OH | Re: LTE...that is...unless... The problem with Verizon buying Alltel is major overlap of markets which would mean major divestitures required by the FCC. Personally being an Alltel customer I'd like to see them buy Sprint, which would ultimately give us native service in the major metros. Have a great day! A. J. | |
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 |  |  |  |  tc1uscg join:2005-03-09 Saint Clair Shores, MI | said by openupshop: Sprint also has the crappiest network. I use to have them I can speak on that one. Thank god I left and went with Verizon. Opinions are like assholes.. everyone has one. I happen to have Sprint. Have had them for almost 10 years. Have 4 phones on CDMA and 1 nextel. I got a nextel because after going camping with my scout troop in some areas were ONLY iDen worked, I figured what the heck. No, I'm not a PTT freak but it works. I just came back this weekend from a campout. Verizon didn't work AT ALL. Nor did a kids T-M.. ATT was the strongest. It should be, their tower was 200 yards from the campsite . Sprint. 4 out of 5 bars. Nextel, 2 out of 5. You can brag or boast or stroke yourself and your verizon network all you want. I got cheap service and don't like getting screwed (why I will never use verizon for ANYTHING). And it just amazes naive people who use them are.  | |
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 |  |  tc1uscg join:2005-03-09 Saint Clair Shores, MI | said by jester121:Problems with that idea: 1. Sprint can't afford to buy anything. 2. Sprint claims they're keeping Nextel. 3. Sprint probably wouldn't want Alltel anyhow. 1. Wrong. They are just watching where the money is going much much better trying to divert cash to the wimax machine. 2. Wrong. They have already hinted of a spin off/standalone company catering to those walkie-talkie freaks (remember LTD aka Embarq) 3. True. They use them for roaming. that's about as far as the relationship will go.  | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: LTE...that is...unless... Sprint may not buy Alltel but Alltel could potentially agree to a 'merger of equals' if they can find a way that it benefits stockholders. Problem is, has there ever really been a 'merger of equals'?
If that somehow happened, I could see both WiMAX and LTE happening from the combined company. WiMAX will be better for consumer devices - mp3 streaming players, PSP/gameboy, GPS devices, cameras, etc. LTE probably won't be broadly available in consumer devices but would make for a better enhanced voice network compatible with other carriers.
Many think LTE/WiMAX will complement each other, not really compete. | |
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 |  |  |  |  EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Re: LTE...that is...unless... Alltel Wireless is not a publicly traded company. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: LTE...that is...unless... Oh right, they've been purchased by a private equity group. Same story though, if an overall Sprint/Alltel deal significantly benefits the new owners, it possibly could happen. Not that I'm saying there's a good chance. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  jester121Premium join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | Re: LTE...that is...unless... Err.. a direct quote from the CEO is a direct quote even if someone on hofo linked it from another source. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  tc1uscg join:2005-03-09 Saint Clair Shores, MI | Re: LTE...that is...unless... What happends, happens. As a customer, I hope they don't drop Nextel. I think Sprint is much better then what cronic crybabies give them credit for. | |
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