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 | | | Re: . says who? They can create a phone all they want- the thing is they gotta actually get it on networks. Who says a carrier is going to support this other than ATT?? | |
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| | | | Re: . We're quickly heading towards smaller and start up wireless carriers becoming more and more usable. As competition starts heating up prices will stabilize and we will move towards a user having an IP address rather than minutes/texts/data.
I know when my contract with Verizon runs out I will buy the newest Nexus device or an Amazon phone and put it on straight talk. | |
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| | | | | Re: . said by NeoandGeo:We're quickly heading towards smaller and start up wireless carriers becoming more and more usable. As competition starts heating up prices will stabilize and we will move towards a user having an IP address rather than minutes/texts/data.
I know when my contract with Verizon runs out I will buy the newest Nexus device or an Amazon phone and put it on straight talk.
very true, these little start ups and prepaid non contract areas are really starting to get big, this keeps up at&t and verizon will be pressured to compete | |
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If it's a CDMA phone it will NEVER be put on Straight Talk as those ESNs/IEMIs are already in their data base and in the Sprint/VZW Databases. No IEMI in the database- it's a no go. It's been documented on here and other sites countless times about putting non-prepaid phones on the Sprint prepaid network. Sprint will NOT allow it.
And VZW will think you're crazy. | |
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Chesterfield, MO | Re: Patent Protection? Isn't Android open source? I thought by using the base Android ( which uses Linux stuff too, right?), contributions become public domain. | |
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| Re: Patent Protection? Linux consists of many components, each of which is licensed individually. While some people advocate that any changes and improvements be published under licenses such as the GPL in fact there is no requirement that any additions to the system be open sourced in any way. Only changes to the copyleft software need be published. New software components can be created under closed source and truly free licenses such as the BSD license and all of these different software components can peacefully coexist together.
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| | | | | | Re: Patent Protection? which is basically what Apple does. | |
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Chesterfield, MO | True, but I thought it could then no longer be distributed with Linux. Doesn't the end customer have to buy it, download and install it on their own?
For instance, I believe Oracle has a version of their database that runs on Linux but I don't think they can create a distro with their DB built in. Right? | |
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| Re: Patent Protection? Some people have radical beliefs on the interpretation of the GPL license. Linus Torvalds has said that there is no issue using "proprietary" drivers in Linux yet some Linux developers have implemented changes contrary to that philosophy.
In the end the issue is the GPL license claims to be "free" and based on "freedoms" but actually it is not. The GPL license is a virus.
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| Why would they need to? The only way to get Amazon video on Android currently is the kindle fire, by means of Amazon's custom software.
They don't need to patent anything, the drm scheme protects them from pesky competitors making an amazon video player for Android. | |
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Black River Falls, WI | Re: Patent Protection? only partially correct, i have access to amazon video on demand on both my kindle fire, my samsung galaxy s 2 and my wifes motorola photon 4 g as well as her asus transformer tf300, with both phones and tablet you can stream any amazon and amazon prime video through a flash friendly browser we do all the, the difference is with the kindle fire you dont need to view it through a browser and you are able to download videos you own onto the kindle fire for offline viewing | |
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As far as I'm concerned every device coming out of that company should be stamped with an indelible brand stating that the device was made with slave labor under abhorrent working conditions that drive so many workers to try to commit suicide that the company had to install nets to catch the routine jumpers.
When will Americans stop advocating and paying for slavery and abuse? | |
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| | | Re: Foxconn said by jeffreydean1:When will Americans stop advocating and paying for slavery and abuse?
Seems to me that the last time they tried to do that (1861) there was some kind of war about the subject. | |
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| | | | Re: Foxconn That's funny, 'cause the real one has installed nets around their buildings to stop their workers from killing themselves by jumping, forces them to live in on-site dormitories, forces long overtime hours for pennies a day, and does not filter harmful chemicals from the air that would constitute illegal working conditions in almost any other civilized country.
But hey, enjoy your product of slave labor. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Foxconn I don't own a smartphone or tablet. I own a PC due to necessity, but I'd gladly pay twice or three times the price for one I could verify was not made with the blood sweat and tears of slaves over in China or wherever these sweat shops move to next.
There was a time in this country when it was considered shameful to do these kind of things in businesses. Business owners used to take pride in being an American company and making products here. Pride has turned to pure unadulterated greed and consumers have been lovingly trained by advertising agencies to expect cheap products that you have to replace every few years because they aren't made to last. Ultimately, you very likely (by design) end up paying MORE for these cheap products than if you paid 3 times as much for a quality piece made by workers who care about their job and have pride in the products they create.
Everything from home appliances to TVs used to last decades. Now we're lucky to get 5-6 years out of a similar product. When your electronics broke, you used to be able to repair it. Products were made to be robust with removable parts. Today's products are designed to be use and throw away, specifically designed so that they cannot be fixed. Ask any auto mechanic about the difference between today's cars and a few decades ago. | |
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While I agree, you're overlooking several points that have necessitated a transition to the "Throw Away Society" mentality.
Let me use my grandparents as an example. They are 88 and 89 years old. They owned a stove from the 1950s for nearly 50+ years before the item died. Quality made!
Companies don't make a profit off items lasting half a century unless features are added and individuals have incentive to upgrade. That's one factor.
Secondary, technology changes very fast. Let's look at computers and televisions. Today's model selling for 1000 to 1500 is yesterday's news within 6 months to a year. By the way, the 1000 to 1500 model is your higher end one, too. The point of manufacture will vary depending upon the item. Japan? Korea? China? Thailand? Who knows as each brand varies.
One thing stands for certain, that Americans are not going to spend 3000 or 4000 dollars on the same item which can be manufactured overseas for 1/3rd or 1/4th of the price if not far less. With technology changing so fast, Americans love to buy and upgrade.
It's no longer the era when you buy an item and it's good for 50 years in general (appliances like an oven or refrigerator to some degree are the exception).
Sadly, this leads to outsourcing and I'm not sure the way around the problem. | |
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| | | | Re: Foxconn You assume incorrectly. | |
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damn its price is so cheap....
i never get spam
i never get extra fees
i never have it spied on
[well cept that guy in the van over there with some dish LOL]
i never have to pirate or get trouble from copyright or patents
cant understand why either....
ill sell thsi to you all for the low price of a cup a tim hortons coffee just dont tell me to bring my laptop.... | |
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| | Foxconn? Why not manufacture it in the US instead of giving jobs to one of the most repressive countries on Earth? | |
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join:2004-05-31 | Re: Foxconn? Because then no one could afford it. Used to be everything cheap was made in Japan, then Taiwan or Hong Kong. It'll just take a little longer to increase the standard of living in the rest of the developing world so that wages are more reasonable & the US more competitive.
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| Because we don't want toxic waste producing electronics manufacturing in our back yards.
Maybe Mexicans in California and Texas can snap together the back covers and we can put a "Made in USA" sticker on it.
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| | | | Re: Foxconn? no that's not it. it's because companies do NOT want to deal with union based wages and the unions trying to take over. Other countries do NOT have unions and will close when they try to unionize. The same as American companies will do in the future when they start to stand up to them and their "employees". | |
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| | | | | Re: Foxconn? If brainwashed anti-worker people liek you had existed back in the 50's and 60's we never would have had a middle class in America. Looks like you folks are winning though. We're going back to a system of the rich and the poor. I simply cannot understand anti-union people. Do you like being poor? Do you like being at the mercy of faceless corporations and having no leverage when they reduce your wages so they can give another million to their CEO? | |
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One of the motivations for the smartphone push is patent protection -- as the company hopes a broader patent portfolio will help better protect the company against infringement.
I'll bet the patent lawyers are wetting their pants waiting for this to happen. Only in America.  | |
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