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If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonAmazon has everything necessary to pull something like this off at a reasonable price. I am curious to see how this will play out but I would be one of their first customers if they can put together some sort of Sling TV like model (but better quality streams than what Sling is currently offering). | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonAside from maybe sports, I'm not sure I see the point. The whole attraction with Amazon Prime and Netflix is being able to watch what you want WHEN you want (and without as many commercials) What reason would there be to move back to Live TV? | |
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Nanaki (banned)
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2015-Oct-9 9:14 am
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonI read protection of live streams and see DRM from hell installed on your computer that may also be doing other things in the background you do not know about. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonI'm sure this would just be an extra option for Prime members, so there would be no price advantage to live vs watching whatever you want when you want. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonPrice, why would u pick amazon version of a live tv package,i dont want to pay 100 dollars for a few channels i want,and amazon version would be dvr capable | |
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said by Camelot One:Aside from maybe sports, I'm not sure I see the point. The whole attraction with Amazon Prime and Netflix is being able to watch what you want WHEN you want (and without as many commercials) What reason would there be to move back to Live TV? Huh? Amazon prime is just TV delivered over IP; they even produce their own TV shows. Whatever it takes to get people trapped in their walled garden will be done. Exclusive on-demand content -> exclusive live content. Funnel everyone to amazon. | |
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Nanaki (banned)
Member
2015-Oct-9 3:44 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonYou seriously have lots of hate for services that let people cut that cable cord it would seem. Amazon entered the broadcaster market and now cable cos and lots of the big boys you like to defend with such vigor are scared out of their minds.
It is no more a walled in garden than hbo or show time or sci fi or abc nbc cbs fox fx family channel cw or any other network. Instead of coming through a bit of coax theirs streams from their servers.
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smk11
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2015-Oct-9 4:05 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonThe amount of people whiteknighting these new future "cable companies" is disgusting. Amazon is just as bad as comcast. Netflix is just as bad as TWC. These are worthless middlemen standing between me and content providers. They have dropped any pretenses about bringing value to consumers anymore. Hell, amazon wants to bring live TV channels to their service. | |
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Nanaki (banned)
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2015-Oct-9 4:25 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonBS yeh they make money so what? TWC comcast dish and direct tv gouge customers on prices with worthless channels bundled with channels they want. Yes some of this is forced on the cable cos by the networks but not always. As for you not wanting middlemen standing between you and the content providers yeh ok then why do you defend these slimes at every turn? Hell even if i owned 100s of shares of stock in one i wouldn't defend them like you do. I may simply not say any thing one way or the other but me being me na id rip in to them as uch as any one else. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-9 8:49 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonShareholders will hold these companies accountable for maximizing profit. Netflix, amazon, hulu, apple, etc are not your friend. At the first sign to corner the market, they would.
I'm not defending them. I'm pointing out the new boss is the same as the old boss. Comcast, TWC, ATT/DTV, amazon, netflix, apple, google, ... are all the same at the end of the day. I hate them all equally. | |
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said by smk11:The amount of people whiteknighting these new future "cable companies" is disgusting. Amazon is just as bad as comcast. Netflix is just as bad as TWC. These are worthless middlemen standing between me and content providers. They have dropped any pretenses about bringing value to consumers anymore. Hell, amazon wants to bring live TV channels to their service. There's a big difference between Amazon and Comcast and that is customer service. The reason Amazon has such a strong following is because their customer service is like no other. I spend $1,000's each year at Amazon for that very reason. I know that if something doesn't go right they have my back, unlike my recent experience at Sams Club (who I would more associate with Comcast) | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-9 8:45 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazonsaid by gigahurtz:There's a big difference between Amazon and Comcast and that is customer service. The reason Amazon has such a strong following is because their customer service is like no other. I spend $1,000's each year at Amazon for that very reason. I know that if something doesn't go right they have my back, unlike my recent experience at Sams Club (who I would more associate with Comcast) Amazon always was the lowest price back in the day + Amazon used to have no tax + Amazon handled out "free" student prime memberships like candy = kids who grew up drinking the amazon koolaid, now have a devout loyalty to a brand long since changed. | |
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2015-Oct-10 10:22 am
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazonsaid by smk11:said by gigahurtz:There's a big difference between Amazon and Comcast and that is customer service. The reason Amazon has such a strong following is because their customer service is like no other. I spend $1,000's each year at Amazon for that very reason. I know that if something doesn't go right they have my back, unlike my recent experience at Sams Club (who I would more associate with Comcast) Amazon always was the lowest price back in the day + Amazon used to have no tax + Amazon handled out "free" student prime memberships like candy = kids who grew up drinking the amazon koolaid, now have a devout loyalty to a brand long since changed. Amazon still has the lowest price on many items, but not all. Amazon is efficient and you know what you're going to get. Amazon backs everything 100%. I've received refunds on items I purchased over a year ago where the company didn't honor the warranty. Amazon has the best customer service in the industry. All of these things factor into it. While the price may not be the best and they charge sales tax in many areas they used to not charge it this still doesn't mean Amazon isn't an attractive company to shop at. If the price is the same at Walmart and Amazon I'll gladly buy on Amazon and have it delivered to my door than deal with the cluster f*ck that is known as Walmart. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-10 12:21 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazonsaid by gigahurtz:Amazon still has the lowest price on many items, but not all. Amazon is efficient and you know what you're going to get. Amazon backs everything 100%. I've received refunds on items I purchased over a year ago where the company didn't honor the warranty. Amazon has the best customer service in the industry. All of these things factor into it. While the price may not be the best and they charge sales tax in many areas they used to not charge it this still doesn't mean Amazon isn't an attractive company to shop at.
If the price is the same at Walmart and Amazon I'll gladly buy on Amazon and have it delivered to my door than deal with the cluster f*ck that is known as Walmart. Amazon hasn't been a price leader in a decade now. At best they will be forced to match other competitors. Amazon's inventory has shrunken drastically. Prime membership value has been diluted every single year. I have no idea why you would publicly admit to abusing return policies. I bet you also abused Costco forcing them to chance policies as well. Thanks for driving up prices at amazon? Please explain how to get the thousands of "add-on," subscribe and save, prime pantry only, prime only, etc items to ship without jumping through hoops. Amazon shopping is a clusterfuck today. I think you're remembering the good old days. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonI think you are confusing Amazon with someone else. I've been a Prime member for years, and the selection/benefits have gotten better every year. It is also rare that I find things cheaper anywhere else, and when they are, it is marginal. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-10 1:58 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonOutside of drinking the amazon koolaid and having fire tablets, fire phones, fire tvs, echos, kindles, prime streaming, prime photo storage, etc amazon is terrible. They went from the cheapest place that shipped everything they stocked in 2 days to the shell of themselves today.
I still want you to explain how to get the thousands of "add-on," subscribe and save, prime pantry only, prime only, etc items to ship without jumping through hoops. Those are a slap in the face to prime members. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonWhat are you smoking? You click the "buy now" button. That is the only "hoop" I have to jump through to buy anything from Amazon. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-10 3:47 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazonsaid by Camelot One:What are you smoking? You click the "buy now" button. That is the only "hoop" I have to jump through to buy anything from Amazon. How do I get this shipped without paying $6.99 on top of $100? » www.amazon.com/King-Arth ··· P6EQGW6/How do I get this shipped without spending over $25? » www.amazon.com/Skittles- ··· E1EK81W/Why do I have to wait a month and buy four other things to get the lowest price? » www.amazon.com/Cottonell ··· BV4HEE4/Why do I have to jump through hoops after paying $100 for Prime that was supposed to let *everything* ship 2 day? | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonIt seems your real issue is that you just didn't read the specifics of the Prime membership. Perhaps you should start there. And if you are still unsatisfied with what is included, they'll refund you the entire year.
Try to get that from Comcast. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonAnd if a delivery is late, you get a free month of Prime. Cox shows up late and it is tough titty. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonAdd to cart at Amazon is a hoop but getting into a car, using gas, going into a store, hunting down the item, putting it in the cart, waiting in line to check out, then driving home isn't.
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"$100 Prime membership - everything in stock and sold by amazon ships in 2 days*"
* lol, not really
"We're not as bad as Comcast" is a ringing endorsement. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-10 9:54 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonSo the answer is no, I can't get those shipped without jumping through hoops. Now you want me to jump through even more hoops and buy from third party merchants after dropping $100?
Giant megacorps are not your friend. No idea why people jump to their defense. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonNo one is jumping to their defense. No one is forcing you to shop on Amazon and purchase a Prime membership either. There are many other options out there that i'm sure you'll find to be better. What everyone is commenting on is the idiotic posts you have made about 'jumping through hoops' on things.
Has Amazon changed some things over the years? Of course they have, just like everyone else. They can't feasibly ship a bag of Skittles for $1.29 to you whenever you want to have a bag of Skittles. You'll need to simply plan ahead and make a list, just like you do when you go to the grocery store. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-11 3:21 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazon"No one is jumping to Amazon's defense, but let me try..."
"Now Same day delivery!" -> "Now 1-2 hr delivery!" Which is it? Amazon can't deliver $1.29 bag of skittles or can they? Prime membership sales pitch is exactly the same today as it was in the past. When amazon changes how they pitch Prime, I'll have no issues. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazonsaid by smk11:"No one is jumping to Amazon's defense, but let me try..."
"Now Same day delivery!" -> "Now 1-2 hr delivery!" Which is it? Amazon can't deliver $1.29 bag of skittles or can they? Prime membership sales pitch is exactly the same today as it was in the past. When amazon changes how they pitch Prime, I'll have no issues. I suppose it isn't possible that Amazon could offer both Same Day Delivery and 1-2 hour delivery, is it? As someone who clearly knows nothing about the logistics of shipping and all of the hurdles that come about with doing so, it's the fact that these services can't be offered nationwide so it will apply in some areas and not in others. For most people, this isn't that hard to figure out... | |
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Thr whiney generation never cares about reality | |
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Nanaki (banned)
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2015-Oct-14 8:51 am
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonNa just reality tv.... Sorry couldn't help my self i didn't even look at who you were talking about lol | |
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1. That particular item is only Prime Pantry so you can't. You either fill a box of Prime Pantry or you buy it elsewhere. 2. It's $1.29 for this item. You either add it to your cart and when you're buying other things you buy it then or you buy enough to exceed $25 worth of that item. That's why it's called an ADD-ON (is that easy enough for you to understand). 3. You don't have to wait a month. Subscribe and Save gives you a 15% discount when you have 5 items or more in a month. Once you've subscribed to 5 items, you can change the delivery date of those items to as soon as 9 days out from the date you change it. You can cancel it if you want after it ships. 4. You don't have to jump through hoops, you just can't seem to grasp that things will change over the years. Amazon adjusted their policies to both turn a profit and still offer value. I have no issue with any of those things which is why I keep my Prime membership. You clearly have an issue with understand basic ordering procedures so perhaps you should stick with shopping at Walmart. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-11 3:14 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonMight want to look up how prime memberships are being sold. #1 reason amazon gives is still: "FREE Two-Day Shipping on millions of items." It's amazing at how the hoops prime members have to jump through isn't listed. | |
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Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's Amazonsaid by smk11:Might want to look up how prime memberships are being sold. #1 reason amazon gives is still: "FREE Two-Day Shipping on millions of items." It's amazing at how the hoops prime members have to jump through isn't listed. Yes, they state "millions of items" not every item. Thanks for proving my point for me. | |
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Add-on items (must have at least $25 in your card to purchase these items.
Subscribe and Save -- items that can be regularly delivered and a discount is offered.
Prime Pantry -- standard amount of items (bottle of ketchup, bottle of mustard, etc). Fill your box, flat rate of $5.99 shipping for the box.
Prime only -- no purchase limit, two day shipping included.
It's really not rocket science but I wouldn't expect someone as incredibly dense as you to be able to pick up on these simple concepts. | |
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smk11
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2015-Oct-11 3:10 pm
Re: If anyone can pull off a Live TV streaming model worth having it's AmazonOh look a personal attack. Thanks. | |
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said by smk11:said by gigahurtz:Amazon still has the lowest price on many items, but not all. Amazon is efficient and you know what you're going to get. Amazon backs everything 100%. I've received refunds on items I purchased over a year ago where the company didn't honor the warranty. Amazon has the best customer service in the industry. All of these things factor into it. While the price may not be the best and they charge sales tax in many areas they used to not charge it this still doesn't mean Amazon isn't an attractive company to shop at.
If the price is the same at Walmart and Amazon I'll gladly buy on Amazon and have it delivered to my door than deal with the cluster f*ck that is known as Walmart. Amazon hasn't been a price leader in a decade now. At best they will be forced to match other competitors. Amazon's inventory has shrunken drastically. Prime membership value has been diluted every single year. I have no idea why you would publicly admit to abusing return policies. I bet you also abused Costco forcing them to chance policies as well. Thanks for driving up prices at amazon? Please explain how to get the thousands of "add-on," subscribe and save, prime pantry only, prime only, etc items to ship without jumping through hoops. Amazon shopping is a clusterfuck today. I think you're remembering the good old days. First and foremost, do not accuse me of abusing return policies. I never said anything about abusing a policy. I have reached out to Amazon when I have a problem with a product that is OUTSIDE the return window of Amazon and they have still taken the return. This is not abusing the policy so please spare me your bullshit. You clearly have some sort of inner hate for Amazon and it's really quite simple. If the ordering process is such a clusterfuck for your simple mind, shop elsewhere. That's the great thing about competition is that you can choose another retailer to bring your business too. As for the value of Prime being 'diluted' that is the most hilarious shit I've ever heard. They have added Kindle book lending, Amazon Music Streaming, Amazon Video Streaming and more over the years. The price went up $20 since it was introduced and quite a bit has been added. | |
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USTVnow provides live TV for free today and has for years. You can run it through a browser, or on most Kodi or Plex devices. This includes running directly on a smart TV or through a Raspberry Pi. With CeC, your TV remote permits selection of channels.
All networks are accessible as streams either directly from the network, or though add ons to Plex, Kodi, use of a browser, or other venues.
I'd like the FCC to require companies that use OTA to stream over Internet, commercials should pay for the content. There is no need for any other fee.
Currently add ons for CBS, NBC, ABC, CW, Fox (not news, just Fox network) are free and legally stream full episodes in HD that are posted on the companies respective websites. Everything from Big Bang theory to CBS evening news. | |
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2015-Oct-9 8:10 am
I will NOT pay for this, I will NOT subsidize broadcast TVI prefer being able to start a TV show from Season 1, Episode 1. With VOD, I get to do just that, on my schedule. Since Sports and News does not interest me even the slightest, I'll gladly pay for Video on Demand services and cherry pick from what is available or go without.
It's my dime after all. I subscribe to Prime, Netflix and Hulu and would NOT pay extra for this. Should the price go up to subsidize broadcast TV, I'll just cancel. | |
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michieru
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2015-Oct-9 8:45 am
Stop it already.Amazon has so much money that they don't know what to do with themselves.
1. Fire phone
2. Amazon echo
3. Amazon dash button
4. Amazon photos
5. Amazon Fire tablet
Just like Google they have a strange attraction to different projects to make themselves branch out but either they end up being half baked products that only work some of the time or down right drop the project all together.
The only thing good you have going for ya is Amazon prime and AWS. Stick to that for now. | |
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now that they killed Aereoeveryone seems free to stream the same ota content  as a prime member, i see no value in this unless they time shift or dvr, sort of how you can watch various most recent ota episodes on hulu. | |
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tshirt
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2015-Oct-9 9:59 am
Which channels would be from OTA? Since I can't see local OTA at my house, that would be job 1, to make cord cutting possible. drama/entertainment stuff doesn't need to be live/real time and already has several venues (Netflix to amazon etc.) | |
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2015-Oct-9 10:02 am
Who would want live tv except sports fans?I'm sure they would also have to force the ads at you. I know I wouldn't want ads with Netflix. That's why I got it, to pay for what I want to watch, not what they want me to watch (ads). Can't imagine Amazon TV subscribers would feel any different. | |
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2015-Oct-9 1:20 pm
Live TVAll any company has to do is offer Live Sports Package. Everything sports. People will pay 50 bucks a month for it. I'd consider a $100 a month if it was an online streaming of EVERY sporting event. Or do pay per game like 5 dollars a game which I would enjoy even more because I don't watch that much. Price is not the issue. THE ISSUE IS RUNNING A LINE AND ANOTHER BOX AND MORE CLUTTER AND GETTING QUACK CABLE GUYS TO COME OVER AND DO IT. All I want is a mini HTPC connected to my 4k PC. I do not want a directv box or comcast xfinity stuff. I haven't had cable TV or satellite in 2 years. That's how you get my business back. Offer a sports package that streams online. | |
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XJakeX
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2015-Oct-9 1:43 pm
why wait?There is really nothing to stop Amazon or Netflix from simulating live TV over the Internet right now. Of course they will need a lot more original programming, or permission to do it with the content they buy from the other networks in order to fill an entire week, but all they have to do is start advertising well in advance of the date, that on Monday at 8pm they will make available for streaming S1E1 of their newest "whatever" series, and that viewers should tune in the following week on Monday at 8 for S1E2, etc. etc.
Once an episode has been made available in its time slot, it can be streamed at any time after that. For those who like to binge, they won't have to wait long. The typical Netflix/Amazon original series, and even the typical HBO/Showtime series is only 10-13 episodes these days. Suck it up for 3 months, then binge away. | |
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Flyonthewall
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2015-Oct-9 2:52 pm
Re: why wait?The day Netflix adds live streaming of Sports is the day I cancel, I am not interesting in subsidizing for something I don't want. | |
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