I've never understood why manufacturers go for 'exclusive' Sure, AT&T has something to toot about. So they have some marketing advantage, maybe.
But if Amazon really wants to make a big splash with their phone and use it as a pipeline for additional sales and broaden the retail horizon, then making this phone exclusive to AT&T seems counter-intuitive.
What's the point of cutting off every Sprint, verizon, T-Mobile, etc. users from Amazon? If I were Bezos, I would want my phone to be available as widely as possible.
In the end, it's all about money, and AT&T must be paying Amazon a pretty good chunk of it for Amazon to whore themselves like this.
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said by nfotiu:i would go for something like that, but if lots of people bought these strictly for the $20 unlimited calling and never bought anything form amazon could the model survive? i am kind of person who might buy into a deal like that and use the phone for all my calls and whatever else i could do without paying and than carry a second android or ios phone with a cheap data only SIM.
Normally, I'd agree with you. However, I suspect that Amazon is taking a different approach at differentiating themselves in the phone game. Their killer feature may well be a packaged, heavily subsidized AT&T plan sold through Amazon. ie, it seems possible they could offer something $20 a month for unlimited calling, and unlimited Amazon ecosystem data. Not entirely different than the kindle 3G whispernet they've been doing for years.
a few years ago i traveled world using whispernet browsing and it was great the alternative would have been no mobile data i was not about to pay the high roaming fees of the day. i am really interested to see what launches tomorrow.
Re: Don't Use Either AT&T is just a new name for SBC, which bought the name AT&T off the dying long distance carrier as it was being picked apart.
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said by ISurfTooMuch:It's a little more convoluted than that, but that's essentially correct.
AT&T is just a new name for SBC, which bought the name AT&T off the dying long distance carrier as it was being picked apart.
The thing that currently calls itself "at&t" certainly isn't the AT&T I once knew. Then again, as you noted: By the time SBC acquired the tattered remains of that once great company, much of the AT&T I once knew was already gone, anyway.
Re: Don't Use Either Yes, you're right. I was thinking of the old AT&T Wireless name, which was just licensed from AT&T and was allowed to fade away after the former AT&T Wireless was bought by Cingular. When AT&T (the long distance company) was on its deathbed, SBC bought it up, including the name. At that point, I don't think there was much left of it. I remember many people saying that keeping that name was going to be bad for SBC, since AT&T was a much-hated company in American culture, but I guess it worked out. Now, SBC/AT&T is again a much-hated company, which may have been what they were going for all along.
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said by ISurfTooMuch:AT&T hated? I think that was myth more than fact. Most TeleCom professionals, in particular, liked working with AT&T. I know I did. In TelCom rag surveys, AT&T used to rank at the very top, time-after-time.
When AT&T (the long distance company) was on its deathbed, SBC bought it up, including the name. ... I remember many people saying that keeping that name was going to be bad for SBC, since AT&T was a much-hated company in American culture, ...
SBC, tho... everybody hated SBC. Including me. Maybe even especially me. The stories I could tell you about SBC... The thing that currently calls itself "at&t" has absolutely zero chance to ever get my employer's business ever again--unless all other options simply disappear. (In which case, were it me, I'd flippin' move.)
Of all the companies and service providers with which I've ever dealt, both professionally and privately, regardless of product or service, SBC was, without question, far and away absolutely the worst experience, bar none. I dislike SBC so much, I'd actually think about doing without wireless before I'd use them.
They are so bad, in my view, I'm actually mildly offended they're sullying the AT&T name.
| || |said by Kearnstd:
AT&T Bell Labs if I remember correctly used to be known as one of the great places in innovation even for things outside of telecom equipment.
Indeed. The transistor, for one. The Unix operating system came out of AT&T, too.
said by Kearnstd:
Also if only modern phones were still built with the strength of those old AT&T-Western Electric rotory phones. I mean you could fire those phones through a tank and still make a call.
True, but few people would want to lug-around a 5-lb. wireless phone or pay $3,000 for it
True story: Roommate of mine got so pissed at his ex, one time, that he beat the Western Electric wall phone with its own handset so badly it was just parts hanging in a tangle on the wall.
It still worked.
Bell Telephone replaced it, but told him if he ever did that again they'd make him pay for it next time.
| || From a telecom-industry perspective, they may have been liked (they did, after all, run a good network), but their customers may not have been so inclined. AT&T was a monopoly, they knew it, and they acted the part.|
As for SBC, I worked with Southwestern Bell to get high-speed connections installed (I sold them and set up the installation with the appropriate carrier), and, in Arkansas at least, they were OK to work with. As I recall, you really had to know what to ask for when you called them, as the people there didn't have much tolerance for requests that were at all vague, but, once you learned that, getting orders through wasn't so bad.
Now, the only experience I have with AT&T (former BellSouth area) is making sure our U-verse stays up. And, as much as I don't like the company that much (and I loathe the wireless side), my experience has been that their field employees are pretty good, much better than most of the people who work for Comcast.
Glen Head, NY
Good For Them I won't be a customer. I despise AT&T and refuse to do business with them. Frankly I think Amazon is shooting themselves in the foot but that is their decision. When the phone flops, they'll blame it on the market instead of AT&T.
I support the right to keep and arm bears.
HA! Crappy phone on a crappy provider. Made for each other.