 nasadude
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| that was dumb don't they know all they have to do is break the functionality of P2P applications to keep the bandwidth hogs at bay?
I'm sure there are also other applications they can prevent from working to keep bandwidth usage down - that's the way we do it here in the U.S.! | |
|  | openbox9
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Navarre, FL | Re: that was dumb You do realize what an Internet Exchange is and does right? | |
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| Re: that was dumb said by ztmike  :said by nasadude :don't they know all they have to do is break the functionality of P2P applications to keep the bandwidth hogs at bay? I'm sure there are also other applications they can prevent from working to keep bandwidth usage down - that's the way we do it here in the U.S.! I don't know if your trying to sound like a smart ass with your comment, but all that traffic is NOT p2p. There is a life outside of the RIAA and MPAA, if you realize this or not.. Just goes to show how far we are in the Good Ol' USA.  No, 90% of that traffic from Amsterdam is porn traffic. Most of the "reputable" porn sites operate on servers there.
"Gee, we have to upgrade our network because of porn?" said Comcast's CEO
"Yep!"
"We need to throttle, I mean 'traffic shape' all that smut."
"Yep!"
"I just love yes men."
"Yep!
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| | BosstonesOwn
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| Im guessing from the responses above that you didn't remember the new sarcasm tags.
I gave ya a thumbs up not only for fooling the people posting above , but also for causing me to ruin my wireless keyboard when i dropped my coffee on it.
Good show sir ! Jolly good show !!
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| | | nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | Re: that was dumb I thought about using the tags, but thought it would be obvious. I guess I was too subtle. | |
| | | wierdo
join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK | Re: AMS-IX a key point of failure - becomes terrorist target More correctly, it acts as an interconnect for over 280 ISPs. | |
| | BosstonesOwn
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| Theres more interconnects my friend. Just because it is the busiest doesn't mean a terrorist attack knocks out the interweb and ecommerce in europe.
TCP protocol is pretty resilient to failures. Thats why the government invented it. With it becoming more expensive to buy into 3rd world countries I fully expect some one to start using africa as a major exchange soon. Followed by Spain And Iceland soon it's only logical now.
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TK Junk Mail
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| Re: AMS-IX a key point of failure - becomes terrorist target said by BosstonesOwn :Theres more interconnects my friend. Just because it is the busiest doesn't mean a terrorist attack knocks out the interweb and ecommerce in europe. It won't "Knock Out" all e-commerce, but it would put a huge hurt on it for a significant period of time.
An example of companies using the exchange:
»https://www.euro-ix.net/member/m/isp/cho···t=Search | |
| | | | wierdo
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| Re: AMS-IX a key point of failure - becomes terrorist target said by TK Junk Mail :It won't "Knock Out" all e-commerce, but it would put a huge hurt on it for a significant period of time. It will, only if providers are as idiotic as they are here in the states about putting their eggs all in one (or two) baskets. I don't know how things are looking today, but as of a few years ago they by and large weren't being that short sighted.
Part of the point of a public peering fabric of that nature is to have many of them so that when one dies, it's not a big deal, unlike what happens when one of two or three private links between major backbone providers go out.
Back when we had that sort of architecture here, full on outages were much more rare. Granted, when one of the IXPs keeled over for whatever reason, latency went through the roof to most off-net destinations, but a complete breakage wasn't as likely.
I also think it's a mistake for AMS-IX to be that big anyway, but that's because I favor more decentralization of exchanges. IMO, just about every mid-size or larger metro in the US should have one, where the local ISPs exchange traffic with each other and the big outfits exchange traffic in that area. Nobody seems to want to expend the engineering effort to do that, though. | |
| | | | BosstonesOwn
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| It won't do much damage , just introduces more lag , those exchanges are very well peered. If it was the Us , Japan or Brazilian peer exchanges I'd say yes we may have a problem. But there , no we don't.
We have many in Spain and the UK that can take up the slack , but it comes at a cost of adding latency and cost to the packets.
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| | | | | | | mdrift
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| Re: AMS-IX a key point of failure - becomes terrorist target The Government didn't invent TCP and Al Gore was on the steering committees whose chairmanship lead votes made sure the continued funding for major areas of the future Internet were born.
At any rate, from RFC675
»www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc675.txt
SPECIFICATION OF INTERNET TRANSMISSION CONTROL PROGRAM
December 1974 Version
1. INTRODUCTION
This document describes the functions to be performed by the
internetwork Transmission Control Program [TCP] and its interface to
programs or users that require its services. Several basic
assumptions are made about process to process communication and these
are listed here without further justification. The interested reader
is referred to [CEKA74, TOML74, BELS74, DALA74, SUNS74] for further
discussion.
The authors would like to acknowledge the contributions of R.
Tomlinson (three way handshake and Initial Sequence Number
Selection), D. Belsnes, J. Burchfiel, M. Galland, R. Kahn, D. Lloyd,
W. Plummer, and J. Postel all of whose good ideas and counsel have
had a beneficial effect (we hope) on this protocol design. In the
early phases of the design work, R. Metcalfe, A. McKenzie, H.
Zimmerman, G. LeLann, and M. Elie were most helpful in explicating
the various issues to be resolved. Of course, we remain responsible
for the remaining errors and misstatements which no doubt lurk in the
nooks and crannies of the text. | |
| | | jervin123
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Philadelphia, PA | But only when there are alternate routes, many ISPs have few alternate geographically diverse routes. | |
| | karlmarx
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Nashua, NH | Gee, the 'terrorist' card from a right wing nut case. Who'd a thought! | |
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mrchris
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North Babylon, NY | Eh Noone cares since we aren't gonna see such sustained speed via tranfers. | |
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xyar
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Beaverton, OR | Pictures Pictures, I wanna see some router pr0n!!
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| Re: Pictures said by xyar :Pictures, I wanna see some router pr0n!! There's actually a lot of PCs there running this:
»www.openbsd.org/
and this:
»openbgp.org/
(ssshhh, don't tell cisco and juniper) | |
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AMS-IX a key point of failure - becomes terrorist target
