Android Grabs 52% Global Smartphone Market Share With Nokia Still the Top Global Mobile Phone Vendor According to new data from Gartner, more than fifty percent of all smartphones bought worldwide during the third quarter were running some flavor of the Android operating system. Worldwide sales of mobile devices totaled 440.5 million units in the third quarter of 2011, up 5.6 percent from the same period last year, according to Gartner. Of that total, 115 million of those were smartphones, with smartphone growth slowing slightly from last quarter, but still up 42% from last year. Nokia (23.9%), Samsung (17.8%) and LG (4.8%) took the top three spots in global mobile device market share. Android (52.5%), Symbian (16.9%) and iOS (15%) took the top three spots in terms of global smartphone OS market share.
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 |  | | | Re: Android vs iOS heating up with Android pulling ahead These numbers are of sales over the last quarter. I wonder what the breakdown is when showing how many _activated_ phones there are per OS.
Also, Samsung now claims to be selling more smartphones than Apple. | |
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| Re: Android vs iOS heating up with Android pulling ahead I don't have the numbers in front of me but I read this morning on Gizmodo (I think, might have been another site) that Android is the leader in total market share with expected greater than 50% market share in 2013.
I can see Samsung being ahead of Apple for smartphone sales in total. They have a lot of devices that offer a wide range of choice for the consumer. | |
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kudos:8 | It'll only be a matter of time until we see: "Available on the Android Market" and the developer won't even bother with the App Store.
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| | | | Re: Nokia? They are still number one for all phones but way down on the list for smart phones. | |
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Minneapolis, MN | Re: Nokia? said by Automate:They are still number one for all phones but way down on the list for smart phones.
Yeah, I saw that. Per the article they do a lot of sales in emerging markets, which makes sense I suppose.
Just noting that Nokia was arguably King of the phone manufacturers for a while, but (in the US market at least) have fallen by the wayside in terms of desirable phones. | |
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| | | Did you see that they still have over 16% of the sales in smartphones? Compare that with 2-6% for Windows Mobile 7! I wonder what kind of user buys a Symbian phone nowadays seeing that it will no longer be developed. This means they are either committing to 2 years of Symbian use or paying $500-800 US$ for a Symbian phone!!! If Nokia can pull that off, they should be able to totally dominate the smartphone market with WM7, right? | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Nokia? Symbian has been moved to open source, too. Who says that Nokia can't keep developing and updating it, if they are doing well with it and the demand is there? I am actually waiting for some open source devs to start playing with Symbian, like they did with UNiX when code went to public domain. You can see what they have done for UNiX. Why not Symbian? | |
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| | Sales versus in-use This talks about smartphone market share in terms of units BOUGHT. Would be interesting to see what the IN USE market share looks like. I can think of about 10 droids that were bought and a few months later sitting in a draw somewhere, while the user went back to their old reliable device. | |
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Wheeling, IL | Re: Sales versus in-use said by AnonMe2 : I can think of about 10 droids that were bought and a few months later sitting in a draw somewhere, while the user went back to their old reliable device.
I can think the same about iPhones (or even more Nokias), though to stash 10 droids (and not resell them) sounds like throwing money out. I hope you understand that (smart) phone which is more than 1-2 years old, is really old phone? | |
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| | | | You can have my Droid X I can't wait until I can dump this POS and go back to an iPhone. tired of the lagginess, random reboots when playing music, and generally buggy experience. It wasn't this bad before Gingerbread but it did have other issues.
And it's not my phone - a friend with a Droid 2 has the same issues.
I came, I tried Android and it sucks - I want my iPhone 5!!! | |
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Wyoming, MI | Re: You can have my Droid X Yeah seriously, two guys at work have Droid 2 Global and they hate it as well. I have a new Droid 3 from work and my HTC EVO3D personal from Sprint.
I'd take the HTC any day. Sense and other variants of it are great but Moto's implementation of Android is buggy at best. It lags tremendously, and even the layouts of the way they implement their clients doesn't work as well as on an HTC device. Notice the lack of as many ROMs on XDA forums for droids vs. HTC devices.
So I agree, drop all Droids and pick and iPhone or HTC device. | |
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kudos:8 | Re: You can have my Droid X Motorola sucks at making phones. They should just quit and just make radios.
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kudos:2 | Re: You can have my Droid X said by Gbcue:Motorola sucks at making phones. They should just quit and just make radios.
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join:2005-07-16 | I feel the same way about the iPhone and iOS. I had the stupid iPhone (no doubt the worst piece of electronics I ever purchased) and after the initial 'I have an iPhone, I have an iPhone, guess what, I'm better then you because I have an phone with a shiny fruit on the back' feeling wore off, I felt like I flushed $300 down the toilet. An overrated phone, on a POS carrier (AT&T Mobility), running an operating system locked down tighter then Ft Knox, having to jailbreak if you wanted to do stuff like copy and paste and multitasking, you know things that every other smartphone and PDA on the planet could do. Not to mention iOS is just too damn boring, there’s no customizing it. 16 months with the stupid thing was more than I could take, bought the Evo as soon as it came out and upgraded to the Evo 3D. The ETF with AT&T was $110, well worth it to be rid of both their crappy poor excuse for a wireless network and that fruit phone. While I always hated Apple, I looked past that since well, it was an iPhone. I should have stuck with my gut instinct, although after using something as crappy and the iPhone and iOS, it really makes me appreciate Android that much more. I also opened up my mind and discovered there are much better MP3 players out there besides the iPod. I ditched my iPod Classic and bought a Sony Walkman MP3 Player which kicks the iPods ass both in UI and sound quality. Only thing I don’t like is the headphone jack is at the bottom.
The other day I was at someones house and they just bought their kid an iPhone 4S, she came up to me all excited and said ‘Look I got an iPhone’, so I took it out of her hand, hit the home button and slid my finger across the screen to unlock it. And then I said ‘Now what?’. She said ‘what do you mean?’, I replied, ‘what am I supposed do with it?’. She had a puzzled look on her face, then I pulled out my Evo 3D and told her to take a look at it. She unlocked it, liked all the weather animations, was blown away by the widgets especially the ESPN ScoreCenter ticker and the full screen calculator, and liked the whole flip clock/weather widget from HTC. I also showed off some novelties like 3D YouTube streaming and live wallpaper, the aquarium wallpaper does it everytime. She also liked how big the screen was, and while there is a stronger Verizon signal then Sprint signal at her house, web pages loaded much faster on my phone using Dolphin HD then on hers with Safari Mobile.
If you like looking at a boring wall of apps the iPhone is perfect for you, if you like variety and customizability, look else ware. I would have probably made a better impression if I showed off some Facebook and Twitter widgets since she’s into all that garbage, but I can’t stand that social networking horseshit so I don’t have any of that crap installed. While I came away with the impression that she liked the Evo 3D better, she would never admit it, since the Evo is not as cool as the iPhone among the 15 year old girl types.
I will never understand why someone would willing choose to be locked into Apples extremely closed ecosystem. While every year when Apple releases their latest iCrap, there may be a bunch of iSheep waiting in line at midnight to purchase the magical junk, stories like this prove that people are in fact educated and will go with the superior platform, Android, when all is said and done.
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| | | | | Re: You can have my Droid X You've never actually had an iPhone. | |
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: You can have my Droid X You calling me a liar? Why would I lie? I had that POS phone for 16 months grueling months and hated it, before got rid of it. March 2009 - June 2010. If I still had access to my AT&T online account I'd show you, if I could find my sales receipt I'd scan it, but here's a screen cap of the final email I got from them. No mention of the iPhone by name, but who the hell in their right mind would subscribe to AT&T for any other reason. And here's a link to a post I made here a few years ago containing a screen cap from my iPhone.
So yes I had the iPhone, and yes I expect an apology. What’s the matter, do you think everyone who has anything negative to say about the precious Jesus Phone, is just making it up? The iPhone flat out sucks, I’ve use it long enough to know.
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2 edits | said by Steve Mehs:I feel the same way about the iPhone and iOS. I had the stupid iPhone (no doubt the worst piece of electronics I ever purchased) and after the initial 'I have an iPhone, I have an iPhone, guess what, I'm better then you because I have an phone with a shiny fruit on the back' feeling wore off, I felt like I flushed $300 down the toilet. An overrated phone, on a POS carrier (AT&T Mobility), running an operating system locked down tighter then Ft Knox, having to jailbreak if you wanted to do stuff like copy and paste and multitasking, you know things that every other smartphone and PDA on the planet could do. Not to mention iOS is just too damn boring, there’s no customizing it. 16 months with the stupid thing was more than I could take, bought the Evo as soon as it came out and upgraded to the Evo 3D. The ETF with AT&T was $110, well worth it to be rid of both their crappy poor excuse for a wireless network and that fruit phone. While I always hated Apple, I looked past that since well, it was an iPhone. I should have stuck with my gut instinct, although after using something as crappy and the iPhone and iOS, it really makes me appreciate Android that much more. I also opened up my mind and discovered there are much better MP3 players out there besides the iPod. I ditched my iPod Classic and bought a Sony Walkman MP3 Player which kicks the iPods ass both in UI and sound quality. Only thing I don’t like is the headphone jack is at the bottom.
The other day I was at someones house and they just bought their kid an iPhone 4S, she came up to me all excited and said ‘Look I got an iPhone’, so I took it out of her hand, hit the home button and slid my finger across the screen to unlock it. And then I said ‘Now what?’. She said ‘what do you mean?’, I replied, ‘what am I supposed do with it?’. She had a puzzled look on her face, then I pulled out my Evo 3D and told her to take a look at it. She unlocked it, liked all the weather animations, was blown away by the widgets especially the ESPN ScoreCenter ticker and the full screen calculator, and liked the whole flip clock/weather widget from HTC. I also showed off some novelties like 3D YouTube streaming and live wallpaper, the aquarium wallpaper does it everytime. She also liked how big the screen was, and while there is a stronger Verizon signal then Sprint signal at her house, web pages loaded much faster on my phone using Dolphin HD then on hers with Safari Mobile.
If you like looking at a boring wall of apps the iPhone is perfect for you, if you like variety and customizability, look else ware. I would have probably made a better impression if I showed off some Facebook and Twitter widgets since she’s into all that garbage, but I can’t stand that social networking horseshit so I don’t have any of that crap installed. While I came away with the impression that she liked the Evo 3D better, she would never admit it, since the Evo is not as cool as the iPhone among the 15 year old girl types.
I will never understand why someone would willing choose to be locked into Apples extremely closed ecosystem. While every year when Apple releases their latest iCrap, there may be a bunch of iSheep waiting in line at midnight to purchase the magical junk, stories like this prove that people are in fact educated and will go with the superior platform, Android, when all is said and done.
While I don't agree about AT&T, who is overpriced, but no doubt best carrier in my region, I agree with everything here about the iphone. It's good for those who aren't power users because the OS can be used by simpletons(not saying ALL users are), is automatic for those who buy all Apple stuff, and is decently built. But I hated it and loathed it. I always felt it was a cage trying to keep me from what I actually want to do with the thing. I will use the term Steve Mehs  here used and say it's absolutely boring. You have to find the key for all these cages it tries to lock you into. Not to mention they all look the same. Throw in the late/lack of basic functionality steve went on about and it can drive power users absolutely berserk. I didn't last 16 months with it, like Steve. I ditched it in 5 months for my old Symbian that was customized the way I liked it and did more than you could probably imagine for an older Smartphone. Not to mention AT&T had some older plans still available for older phones(not anymore) and that made it cheaper to keep on a plan to boot. Android has some annoying qualities, but at least it lets you change them. At least it lets the user give it some of their own personality. I think it's a beautiful OS all in all and I rarely agree with this guy, on anything. I got it doing just what I want it to, not what Steve Jobs wants it to.
A plus with an iphone is you can sell it, pay your ETF and still profit. Crazy, isn't it?
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I was fanatic with iPhone, even after Droid started pushing it's way forward. Eventually tried Droid and have relegated my iPhone/iPod touch to the kids room or dresser.
Even they prefer my droid. Definitely a superior platform.
If iPhone ever makes a comeback, and becomes better than it is, I'll jump back. No fan of product loyalty here. Superior quality wins my loyalty in the end. That's Android right now. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: You can have my Droid X iphone beating Android would happen only if Apple relinquishes its 100% control of the platform. While some stock implementations are lame, the community has been hard at work at making Android what they want it to be. From what I've seen of ICS, it seems Google is watching. It seems to implement much of what we have been getting from apps and custom ROMs right into its core. Google open sourced it for many reasons, it seems. They wanted the community to work on it and also achieve widespread adoption for their ad revenue platform. That being said, it is easy to keep an Android Ad-free.
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kudos:2 | You are hilarious. My device does none of that. Only issue with it is a now flaky charge port that I got a charging cradle for because the rest of the phone runs in top shape after over a year. Promising, considering the junk most companies manufacture these days. I love how capable it is after custom ROMing it with what I mention in the homescreen thread in the Android forum. Let's just say it's not carrier butchered, just as the iphone isn't. With those conditions, I'd rather run Android any day of the week. Granted, Android needs more tuning out of the box than iOS, but the rewards pay off into a phone that crushed my friend's iphones in terms of speed. The 4S with the A5 has one up on me, but none of last years phones did. Battery life was the one hitch, but I figured out several ways to keep usability and extend it. Now it can run SIP all night waiting for calls and I still have a full battery in the morning  Saving my minutes and avoiding spots in my house that always drops calls using VOIP now doesn't have to drain the battery.
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| | | | | Re: You can have my Droid X Glad that yours does none of what mine does. But I can assure you mine will reboot randomly when playing music. Doesn't matter if it's an MP3 or an app. It will reboot playing a podcast or Slacker, Pandora, or from the music player. Wife and I listen to a podcast every week and it's always a crapshoot whether it will reboot or not.
Sometimes simple things like trying to make a call can be a laggy mess of an experience.
It didn't used to be this bad before Gingerbread. There were no random reboots and it wasn't this laggy. But it's about as bad as iOS 3 was on my iPhone 3G. Only difference was Apple eventually fixed it and I have no faith in Motorola to fix it or even upgrade it to ICS.
I could care less about the hacking, ROMs, etc. I want a phone that works and works well. The Droid X had promise and I really liked it when it came out. Over the last year and change it has gotten much worse. I've got no issues with iOS - been there before and I like the changes they have made. And it will integrate better with my Macs and the rest of my friends who have iPhones (iMessage vs the crap free texting apps). | |
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kudos:2 | Re: You can have my Droid X I can't vouch for the Droid X, but it seems you were talking like Android itself is inherently bad, which is why I replied to you. My phone is a Samsung, as I really don't have much faith in Motorola myself anymore. One of the names that used to mean quality that now just produces run of the mill crap. ROMs are great because you can install exactly what you want and make your phone exactly what you want it to be, so don't overlook that avenue. It's easier to do than you probably think. iOS is ok, but run-of-the-mill to me.
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Botched iOS updates, and the unusually bloated iTunes, plus MobileMe not having a free option for 3GS users was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I've been using Atrix 4G since March and haven't been happier. | |
| | | | Re: Get Apple to release the stranglehold.. You don't really need to use any sort of software anymore with iCloud. | |
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kudos:8 | Re: Get Apple to release the stranglehold.. said by MRCURAnon :You don't really need to use any sort of software anymore with iCloud.
Oh, so something Android's had since the beginning of Android? Welcome to 2008, Apple. Maybe you'll try to re-invent the wheel.
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| | | said by Hoss:...on the software they allow to be used to manage the phones, and I know a ton of people who might possibly return. Myself included.
Botched iOS updates, and the unusually bloated iTunes, plus MobileMe not having a free option for 3GS users was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I've been using Atrix 4G since March and haven't been happier.
said by Hoss:...on the software they allow to be used to manage the phones, and I know a ton of people who might possibly return. Myself included.
Botched iOS updates, and the unusually bloated iTunes, plus MobileMe not having a free option for 3GS users was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I've been using Atrix 4G since March and haven't been happier.
You prefer the Atrix 4G that's burdened by the horrible Motoblur and lags worse than an iPhone 2G?
Botched iOS updates? What? | |
| | | | | Re: Get Apple to release the stranglehold.. Keep fighting that good fight, Android OEMs. Fragment that market a bit more, confuse users a bit more, and ultimately take slim-as-bargain-basement-PCs margin... while Apple continues to have more money and make better product than all Google phones combined.
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Apple's iPhone 4 was the top selling phone in the world for its entire reign at the top of Apple's iPhone product line, but according to market research firm NPD, even Apple's iPhone 3GS outsold every Android smartphone on the market.
In a release, the company said that the top five phones of the third quarter, which ended in September, were:
Apple iPhone 4
Apple iPhone 3GS
HTC EVO 4G
Motorola Droid 3
Samsung Intensity II
In other words, Apple's iPhone 4, which was more than a year old during the quarter, was the #1 phone during the quarter, while Apple&'s 25 month-old iPhone 3GS was also enough to beat every single one of the latest and greatest Android device, including all of the 4G LTE devices that had been released in the previous six months.
These results demonstrate both the strength and weakness of Apple&'s business model of offering a very limited number of models that are differentiated only by how much storage they have. During the 3rd quarter, Apple offered the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 in two colors with three different storage sizes each. So, while Apple has the #2 smartphone platform, it has the #1 and #2 devices.
Compare that to Samsung, which sells Android and Windows Phone smartphones. A quick look on Samsung's "Phone landing" page asks customers to browse by carrier, not by device. The more adventuresome can view all 136 models Samsung makes (that includes feature phones as well as smartphones). In some cases, even when Samsung sells the same device on more than one carrier, they have different features and even different form factors.
But all those models add up. Apple may have had the top two devices during the quarter, but Samsung was the #1 mobile device maker during the quarter, just like Android has been the #1 smartphone platform for much of the last year.
Then again, Apple takes a monstrous portion of the entire cell phone industry's profits. This not only relates to the fact that Apple commands a much higher premium for its iPhone devices, it also makes a higher profit per device because of its highly concentrated product line.
During the November quarter, Apple will be offering three iPhone models, the iPhone 4S, the iPhone 4, and the going-on-three-years old iPhone 3GS, which will be free with a two year contract at AT&T. We would expect that lineup to result in Apple claiming the top three spots in rankings such as NPD's.
As we have repeatedly noted, there are many metrics with which to pass some kind of arbitrary judgement on who is beating whom in the smartphone market, but the reality is that Apple is playing a different game than OEMs like Samsung, HTC, and Motorola Mobility. The company's goals are also far, far different from Google's when it comes to that company's Android platform.
Google doesn't care in the least little bit about making a good phone. They care only about getting Android on as many platforms as possible and making advertising dollars off those platforms. They allow OEMs to butcher Android in every possible way... as long as it ships it makes money with ads... not user experience. | |
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: Get Apple to release the stranglehold.. 'User experience' What the hell are you talking about? iSheep like yourself always pedal that 'User experience' crap. My 'User experience' with Apple had me wanting to throw the dumb thing against the wall. What exactly makes the Apple 'User experience' so 'magical'?
And FYI Google doesn't make phones, the make a mobile operating system, and a pretty damn good one at that. The handset manufactures are doing a great job and putting out hardware that beats the iPhone.
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| | | | | | | Re: Get Apple to release the stranglehold.. said by Steve Mehs:'User experience' What the hell are you talking about? iSheep like yourself always pedal that 'User experience' crap. My 'User experience' with Apple had me wanting to throw the dumb thing against the wall. What exactly makes the Apple 'User experience' so 'magical'?
And FYI Google doesn't make phones, the make a mobile operating system, and a pretty damn good one at that. The handset manufactures are doing a great job and putting out hardware that beats the iPhone.
Your anecdotal evidence is exactly the opposite of everyone else who has ever used iOS versus Android. But keep on raging against the machine. You know, it's not ok to still hate pretty, popular things (like Apple products) simply because you are still mad at the pretty, popular people back in high school. It's over. Let it go.
And you have some serious issues in your post. You don't do any of that "Facebook" or "Social Networking" - which means "I am a loser with no friends who is such a social misfit that crushing a 15 year old girl's excitement is what I consider a good time." Trust me, that uncomfortable vibe from her you picked up on? That had nothing to do with her choice in phones.
But keep on keepin on, brother. Never ask why, never introspect, never realize that other people may have different tastes and that their tastes may be objectively better than yours.
Dumping a million different models onto the market is exactly the same crap PC makers have done for a long time.The company says "I have no faith in any of these so sort it out yourself yo." Amazon had it right initially. "Hey want an ereader? we have a small Kindle and a big Kindle and that's it because we know they're great. The other guys have an ereader, but here's ours."
And Google doesn't make phones, but they sure do stamp their approval on any POS device that can do one simple thing: Scrape every single bit of user information as possible so they can sell it to advertisers. They don't care if their brand name gets raked through the coals. THAT is Google's problem.
I mean, I understand your anger. I can understand the root of it - nobody really likes being told what they can or can't do. The majority of us figure out at a young age that sometimes other people do know better or it's just not worth the effort to rage against the man, the rest buy Android phones.
The Bay Area culture runs off of fake money and no profits again, expressing metrics as "people using a product" and not "dollars brought in." They sell 'potential' and the potential either gets them bought out or closed and they do it again. Google is doing the same with Android, selling 'potential', but there's nobody to buy out Android; so they have to use the potential to roll into their advertising and locking into products. It's damn eerie how much Google is like Microsoft of the 90s.
But I will say some good things about Android, just so you are ok.
1) Android is cool because it demonstrated in an easy to understand way why 3D cameras and glasses-free 3D screens are, and continue to be, shit and you shouldn't buy into that garbage.
2) The Widget system seems nice and I would like more widgets in the notification center on iOS.
3) The handling of notifications is worse than webOS but better than iOS (up until iOS copied Android's notification area, i guess)
The flexibility and relative openness are well-intentioned, so that counts for something, but they are abused constantly as we are all aware. And the Notification LED is pretty nice, man.
Oh, and also 4) Android killed the standalone GPS market and forced them to to give up the pricing model of $300 per device plus $50 per quarter for maps. I respect Android for making navigation free instead of making $30 off every $100 offline GPS app like Apple does.
And lastly, the "hardware" may beat the iPhone in specs, but the Android UI is still laggy as Hell, and no number of cores or internal memory is going to fix bugs in software. The iPhone is still the standard in touch response, lack of UI lag and stability. Sorry.
(Actually, I'm not sorry.)
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join:2005-07-16 | Re: Get Apple to release the stranglehold.. Wow dude, you are completely glazed over.
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Your anecdotal evidence is exactly the opposite of everyone else who has ever used iOS versus Android.
No it’s not. If you leave your little Apple bubble you’ll see there are many people who defected from the iPhone to Android devices and prefer the customizability of Android over a locked down operating system.
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But keep on raging against the machine. You know, it's not ok to still hate pretty, popular things (like Apple products) simply because you are still mad at the pretty, popular people back in high school. It's over. Let it go.
Wow, that is the stupidest crap I have ever read. Pretty? Sorry, unlike iSheep, I don’t look at the form factor of electronics, and I certainly don’t consider an iPhone pretty, or my Evo 3D pretty. They’re electronics. As for popularity, judging from this latest announcement, Android is becoming more popular than iOS.
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And you have some serious issues in your post. You don't do any of that "Facebook" or "Social Networking" - which means "I am a loser with no friends who is such a social misfit that crushing a 15 year old girl's excitement is what I consider a good time." Trust me, that uncomfortable vibe from her you picked up on? That had nothing to do with her choice in phones.
No, actually it means I have better things to do with my time then updating my ‘status’ on what I’m having for dinner, telling people what my mood is or playing some idiotic ‘games’. You go on to ramble on about Googles privacy and selling info, there is no company in the business worse at that then Facebook, so shut the hell up. Facebook is such a waste of time and a disease, I can’t believe I even signed up for that nonsense.
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But keep on keepin on, brother. Never ask why, never introspect, never realize that other people may have different tastes and that their tastes may be objectively better than yours.
Funny, you should look in the mirror. There isn’t a group worse at accepting different tastes then those that bow to Lord Jobs, like you.
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Dumping a million different models onto the market is exactly the same crap PC makers have done for a long time.The company says "I have no faith in any of these so sort it out yourself yo." Amazon had it right initially. "Hey want an ereader? we have a small Kindle and a big Kindle and that's it because we know they're great. The other guys have an ereader, but here's ours."
It’s called choice, something you Apple sheep don’t understand. For the rest of us, who don’t obey Lord Jobs, we like having different choices and choosing handsets that meet our wants and needs. Not everyone wants a 4.5” S-AMOLED phone, those that don’t have choices.
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And Google doesn't make phones, but they sure do stamp their approval on any POS device that can do one simple thing: Scrape every single bit of user information as possible so they can sell it to advertisers. They don't care if their brand name gets raked through the coals. THAT is Google's problem.
Google and it’s hardware partners seem to be doing very well. They put a little known company like HTC (who used to make stuff for other companies) on the map, they brought Motorola Mobility back from the dead and even bought it and they made Samsung relevant again in the mobile market. Your comment about selling to advertisers is laughable since you seem to like Facebook.
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I mean, I understand your anger. I can understand the root of it - nobody really likes being told what they can or can't do. The majority of us figure out at a young age that sometimes other people do know better or it's just not worth the effort to rage against the man, the rest buy Android phones.
Or some us like to customize things, some of us what to personalize things. Some of us don’t want some kook in California tell us how we should use the devices we spent our hard earned money on. Some people like be dominated by other people, some people enjoy being told want to do. That’s why there are dominatrix’s, that’s why people use iPhones. If you think Lord Jobs and Apple know what’s best for you, congratulations, you’re an idiot.
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The Bay Area culture runs off of fake money and no profits again, expressing metrics as "people using a product" and not "dollars brought in." They sell 'potential' and the potential either gets them bought out or closed and they do it again. Google is doing the same with Android, selling 'potential', but there's nobody to buy out Android; so they have to use the potential to roll into their advertising and locking into products. It's damn eerie how much Google is like Microsoft of the 90s.
Pretty damn eerie that millions of people choose to by inferior devices, but that’s their prerogative. Pretty hypocritical to use the term ‘locking into products’ when there’s no body better at that than your beloved Apple.
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1) Android is cool because it demonstrated in an easy to understand way why 3D cameras and glasses-free 3D screens are, and continue to be, shit and you shouldn't buy into that garbage.
I, along with most people I show it to, find 3D pretty impressive on my phone. Especially the You Tube streaming. Speaking of You Tube, does Apple still make you be on wifi to stream in high quality, I hated that. Funny I can stream in both HQ and 3D over 3G just fine with Android
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2) The Widget system seems nice and I would like more widgets in the notification center on iOS.
Widgets make the operating system stand out from the rest. I couldn’t imagine having to go back to an inferior OS with no widgets.
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3) The handling of notifications is worse than webOS but better than iOS (up until iOS copied Android's notification area, i guess)
The flexibility and relative openness are well-intentioned, so that counts for something, but they are abused constantly as we are all aware. And the Notification LED is pretty nice, man.
Abused how?
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Oh, and also 4) Android killed the standalone GPS market and forced them to to give up the pricing model of $300 per device plus $50 per quarter for maps. I respect Android for making navigation free instead of making $30 off every $100 offline GPS app like Apple does.
Voice guided GPS is great. Too bad I paid $80 for a year for turn by turn navigation on my iPhone for AT&T Navigator aka Telenav, only to ditch it a few months later. Nice to see Apple copying the whole voice command thing now with Siri. Ever since I had an Android phone I’ve been able to hold the search button down and say ‘navigate to __________’ and have Google Nav launch and take me to my destination.
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And lastly, the "hardware" may beat the iPhone in specs, but the Android UI is still laggy as Hell, and no number of cores or internal memory is going to fix bugs in software. The iPhone is still the standard in touch response, lack of UI lag and stability. Sorry.
That’s a joke. No lag or stability issues here. Not sure what makes the iPhone so special in touch response, but I noticed no difference other then for typing on the on screen keyboard. The stock Android keyboard is so much better than the one on the iPhone. But quite often, I don’t even use the keyboard anymore since the voice recognition works so well.
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Your anecdotal evidence is exactly the opposite of everyone else who has ever used iOS versus Android.
No it’s not. If you leave your little Apple bubble you’ll see there are many people who defected from the iPhone to Android devices and prefer the customizability of Android over a locked down operating system. quote:
But keep on raging against the machine. You know, it's not ok to still hate pretty, popular things (like Apple products) simply because you are still mad at the pretty, popular people back in high school. It's over. Let it go.
Wow, that is the stupidest crap I have ever read. Pretty? Sorry, unlike iSheep, I don’t look at the form factor of electronics, and I certainly don’t consider an iPhone pretty, or my Evo 3D pretty. They’re electronics. As for popularity, judging from this latest announcement, Android is becoming more popular than iOS. quote:
And you have some serious issues in your post. You don't do any of that "Facebook" or "Social Networking" - which means "I am a loser with no friends who is such a social misfit that crushing a 15 year old girl's excitement is what I consider a good time." Trust me, that uncomfortable vibe from her you picked up on? That had nothing to do with her choice in phones.
No, actually it means I have better things to do with my time then updating my ‘status’ on what I’m having for dinner, telling people what my mood is or playing some idiotic ‘games’. You go on to ramble on about Googles privacy and selling info, there is no company in the business worse at that then Facebook, so shut the hell up. Facebook is such a waste of time and a disease, I can’t believe I even signed up for that nonsense. quote:
But keep on keepin on, brother. Never ask why, never introspect, never realize that other people may have different tastes and that their tastes may be objectively better than yours.
Funny, you should look in the mirror. There isn’t a group worse at accepting different tastes then those that bow to Lord Jobs, like you. quote:
Dumping a million different models onto the market is exactly the same crap PC makers have done for a long time.The company says "I have no faith in any of these so sort it out yourself yo." Amazon had it right initially. "Hey want an ereader? we have a small Kindle and a big Kindle and that's it because we know they're great. The other guys have an ereader, but here's ours."
It’s called choice, something you Apple sheep don’t understand. For the rest of us, who don’t obey Lord Jobs, we like having different choices and choosing handsets that meet our wants and needs. Not everyone wants a 4.5” S-AMOLED phone, those that don’t have choices. quote:
And Google doesn't make phones, but they sure do stamp their approval on any POS device that can do one simple thing: Scrape every single bit of user information as possible so they can sell it to advertisers. They don't care if their brand name gets raked through the coals. THAT is Google's problem.
Google and it’s hardware partners seem to be doing very well. They put a little known company like HTC (who used to make stuff for other companies) on the map, they brought Motorola Mobility back from the dead and even bought it and they made Samsung relevant again in the mobile market. Your comment about selling to advertisers is laughable since you seem to like Facebook. quote:
I mean, I understand your anger. I can understand the root of it - nobody really likes being told what they can or can't do. The majority of us figure out at a young age that sometimes other people do know better or it's just not worth the effort to rage against the man, the rest buy Android phones.
Or some us like to customize things, some of us what to personalize things. Some of us don’t want some kook in California tell us how we should use the devices we spent our hard earned money on. Some people like be dominated by other people, some people enjoy being told want to do. That’s why there are dominatrix’s, that’s why people use iPhones. If you think Lord Jobs and Apple know what’s best for you, congratulations, you’re an idiot. quote:
The Bay Area culture runs off of fake money and no profits again, expressing metrics as "people using a product" and not "dollars brought in." They sell 'potential' and the potential either gets them bought out or closed and they do it again. Google is doing the same with Android, selling 'potential', but there's nobody to buy out Android; so they have to use the potential to roll into their advertising and locking into products. It's damn eerie how much Google is like Microsoft of the 90s.
Pretty damn eerie that millions of people choose to by inferior devices, but that’s their prerogative. Pretty hypocritical to use the term ‘locking into products’ when there’s no body better at that than your beloved Apple. quote:
1) Android is cool because it demonstrated in an easy to understand way why 3D cameras and glasses-free 3D screens are, and continue to be, shit and you shouldn't buy into that garbage.
I, along with most people I show it to, find 3D pretty impressive on my phone. Especially the You Tube streaming. Speaking of You Tube, does Apple still make you be on wifi to stream in high quality, I hated that. Funny I can stream in both HQ and 3D over 3G just fine with Android quote:
2) The Widget system seems nice and I would like more widgets in the notification center on iOS.
Widgets make the operating system stand out from the rest. I couldn’t imagine having to go back to an inferior OS with no widgets. quote:
3) The handling of notifications is worse than webOS but better than iOS (up until iOS copied Android's notification area, i guess)
The flexibility and relative openness are well-intentioned, so that counts for something, but they are abused constantly as we are all aware. And the Notification LED is pretty nice, man.
Abused how? quote:
Oh, and also 4) Android killed the standalone GPS market and forced them to to give up the pricing model of $300 per device plus $50 per quarter for maps. I respect Android for making navigation free instead of making $30 off every $100 offline GPS app like Apple does.
Voice guided GPS is great. Too bad I paid $80 for a year for turn by turn navigation on my iPhone for AT&T Navigator aka Telenav, only to ditch it a few months later. Nice to see Apple copying the whole voice command thing now with Siri. Ever since I had an Android phone I’ve been able to hold the search button down and say ‘navigate to __________’ and have Google Nav launch and take me to my destination. quote:
And lastly, the "hardware" may beat the iPhone in specs, but the Android UI is still laggy as Hell, and no number of cores or internal memory is going to fix bugs in software. The iPhone is still the standard in touch response, lack of UI lag and stability. Sorry.
That’s a joke. No lag or stability issues here. Not sure what makes the iPhone so special in touch response, but I noticed no difference other then for typing on the on screen keyboard. The stock Android keyboard is so much better than the one on the iPhone. But quite often, I don’t even use the keyboard anymore since the voice recognition works so well. So much wrongposting. So much. You've obviously been living in a bubble for quite a long time. If you want to convince yourself that your 3D-lol phone is awesome, feel free.
I, and everyone else who isn't an Aspergers candidate living in a fantasy land, know otherwise.
It's been fun though. You have proven, by your moronic posts in this thread, exactly why Apple will continue to dominate the market, and bring in the VAST majority of the smartphone profits, for quite some time.
Funny that as soon as Samsung started copying Apple's patents, they saw a jump in sales. Oops.
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And yep, HP made it to #1 in the PC business churning out crap. And look where it got them. Enjoy making the same mistakes, HTC. Their fate is sealed, just like Android-lovers.
And your question of "Abused how?" simply proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
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This is not one of those cases.
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