baineschile2600 ways to live Premium Member join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI |
Cool!Still a fraction of the apps though. I have an android, and when I see all the applications that my iphone friends have, I get a bit jealous. Now that its on Verizone, I will probably switch when the new model comes out in June | |
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Re: Cool!said by baineschile:Still a fraction of the apps though. I have an android, and when I see all the applications that my iphone friends have, I get a bit jealous. Now that its on Verizone, I will probably switch when the new model comes out in June Exactly the issue I had when I had the Captivate. The lack of quality apps in the android market was very discouraging. I also had many issues with the phone itself (poor battery life, poor GPS, constant freezes) but I don't blame Android for this .. more so I blame Samsung's shitty quality control. | |
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Re: Cool!Android apps have got a lot better in the last 6 months or so, and right now is difficult to find big name apps that don't have excellent versions on both platforms. Android Market has also got A LOT better recently with their changes. Automatic updates, nice layout for browsing apps... It used to suck.
And when it comes to phones, well the selection to choose from is pretty ample. I have a Samsung Vibrant and have the same issues as you do. Battery life is laughable, GPS has never worked right... But I'm blaming Samsung more than anything else. I know other people with Motorolas and HTCs that are quite the happy campers. | |
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2011-Mar-17 5:39 pm
Re: Cool!Silly Apple fanbois thinking the quantity of fart and soundboard apps makes their market better. No thanks, I'm fine with half the shit apps. Android market is full of shit apps to, but only half as many. If you weeded out all the shit and only left truely useful apps both markets would be pretty much even. | |
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Re: Cool!Window machines = Millions of applications = GOOD! Mac = Not so many applications = BAD!
iPhone = Millions of apps = BAD? Android = Not so many apps = Good?
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2011-Mar-17 8:03 pm
Re: Cool!Thank you for completely going off point by dragging something totally unrelated into the conversation. | |
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said by blueOne:Window machines = Millions of applications = GOOD! Mac = Not so many applications = BAD!
iPhone = Millions of apps = BAD? Android = Not so many apps = Good?
Got it! Thanks! Well, Mac users often claimed that their software was much better. The problems begin when critical or extremely popular software takes much longer to develop and find its way to the platform with a smaller user base. This is exactly the position that is starting to unfold for Apple. Apple's hugely successful iOS platform was a smash hit mostly because of the innovative, if only a bit too controlling, app store. All of the current statistics that I can find seem to indicate that the Android user base is growing at an enormous rate, and developers will be channeling their energy making software for the OS that will potentially make the most profit. In a few years, when the next cool app is made available to Android users, a much smaller development team might be working on a variation for Apple's iOS. The cool new apps will take longer to reach the much smaller number of niche iPhone users, and the quality could suffer with updates being few and far between. We see this now with developers in transition, or still largely devoting most of their resources to Apple. The MLB At Bat app, for example, initially has streaming video available to iPhone users, while this feature may not be available to Android devices until later. This trend is apparently flipping, as many developers are switching camps, including one that responded in this very forum. This is significant, as the potential for the Android OS platform to dominate the market has already begun to take root. At some point, it just won't be worth the effort to make software for Apple for many developers, and we will see a similar Mac vs PC of old come about. Apple will eventually have to make their iOS available to other manufacturers, build various devices that cater to many different types of customers, or allow for a much more open environment for developers and users. I think Apple has peaked, or they have nearly reached the top. It was the app store that people wanted, and the innovative way to get these apps. That advantage is disappearing at an alarming rate. » www.growthstockwire.com/ ··· -Peaked-» blogs.forbes.com/johndra ··· g-point/ | |
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I get at least 15 hours on average worth of battery life on my vibrant, the longest ive gone without charging was just under 30 hours. Stock I agree they are pretty bad but once you root and flash a custom rom and kernel you can get much better performance and battery life. | |
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Re: Cool!what do you do with it? If I browse a little and use apps quite a bit I rarely get more than 5 hours | |
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Re: Cool!said by bartolo5:what do you do with it? If I browse a little and use apps quite a bit I rarely get more than 5 hours not much, mostly just a little texting. sometimes a bit of gaming but i usually get about 12-15 hours of battery life per day. attached is a screenshot of my record battery life with my current setup (rom and kernel) | |
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Re: Cool!Yes, I will get 12-15 hours if I do what you do. Light texting and some calling.
The problem is that the iPhone, I have both and iPhone and a Vibrant, can hold the battery a lot better. Using it the same way I use the vibrant I get past 10 hours...
There are still things I like more about the Vibrant though. The iPhone 4 may have more pixels but the AMOLED display of the Vibrant is really nice. Very rich colors and live pictures. | |
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Re: Cool!I agree there, for example dungeon defenders will show you some really good graphics but that game isnt free. It uses the unreal graphics engine. | |
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said by baineschile:Still a fraction of the apps though. I have an android, and when I see all the applications that my iphone friends have, I get a bit jealous. Now that its on Verizone, I will probably switch when the new model comes out in June Everytime I see an iPhone it reminds me how glad I am that Verizon did not get it sooner. If they had I may have ended up purchasing one instead of an Android.,, The Android phone has been so much better than the iPhone. Apple has too many applications. It's already a pain wading through all the ones available on the Android market. | |
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2011-Mar-17 9:48 am
Re: Cool!I have both right now and I honestly see why IPhone is unique. I have the HTC EVO 4G & the IPhone 4 | |
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What are some of the apps that make you jealous? I have spent nearly $800 on apps for my iPad (just apps, not iTunes songs or videos), but my HTC EVO has everything I want. | |
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Why does anyone care who has the most apps? The concern should be with who has the most apps that you want to use.
Just like I don't care who has the largest network. I just care about who has the network coverage where I am. I am not not going to decide on who has the best coverage in Arizona if I don't plan on visiting Arizona. | |
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| fuziwuziNot born yesterday Premium Member join:2005-07-01 Palm Springs, CA |
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Yes, it is so important to be able to choose from over 10,000 fart apps instead of just a handful. | |
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2011-Mar-17 10:22 am
Re: Cool!said by fuziwuzi:Yes, it is so important to be able to choose from over 10,000 fart apps instead of just a handful. I can simply navigate to my local sports radio's website and stream the ESPN radio right from my Android's browser, since it uses Flash. With my iPad, I need an ESPN Radio app to do the same thing, and I believe it costs money. I was never able to find my local ESPN radio station through free streaming radio apps, such as iHeart and their ilk. The iOS simply requires many more apps for routine functionality. | |
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said by baineschile:Still a fraction of the apps though. I have an android, and when I see all the applications that my iphone friends have, I get a bit jealous. Now that its on Verizone, I will probably switch when the new model comes out in June Must not have looked recently. Your technically correct if you are referencing 4/5 as a fraction. Generally, fraction implies significantly less, and thats just not true anymore. One exception might be in the games area, albeit which is important to some people, but I do not have any insight into that market. Anything else, it's become completely overlapping, with some occasions where iPhone might have something Android doesn't, and vice versa. A switch now would be to a app echosphere which is being overtaken, and in 12 - 18 months you will be on the short end again. My own company had tartgeted iOS applications for the last two years and is now scrambling over to Android, in pure recognition that is where the majority of user are already and it will only grow, and we do not see this trend changing. Both platforms will be developed for but iOS is being bumped from "Release first to" to second tier. It's just the way business works, regardless of what is technically or physically the better platform. We want to make money sellling to the most users, and that is Android. | |
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2011-Mar-17 10:53 am
Re: Cool!said by mjp :My own company had tartgeted iOS applications for the last two years and is now scrambling over to Android, in pure recognition that is where the majority of user are already and it will only grow, and we do not see this trend changing. Both platforms will be developed for but iOS is being bumped from "Release first to" to second tier. It's just the way business works, regardless of what is technically or physically the better platform. We want to make money sellling to the most users, and that is Android. How much does Android/Google take compared to a similar app developed on iOS/Apple? That may also play a key role when it comes to deciding which platform to release a new app on. | |
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2011-Mar-17 11:12 am
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2011-Mar-17 12:19 pm
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It can be as low as zero dollars is taken from the developers as almost all android phones can install apps direct from the dev without going through the market.
With Apple you have to pay to even start coding, let alone the up to 30% profit share you have to give them. | |
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I have an Android and have probably installed ten apps. I can't even think of needing any more than that (maybe more games, but when I think of game I'm thinking of them for my PC). | |
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said by baineschile:Still a fraction of the apps though. I have an android, and when I see all the applications that my iphone friends have, I get a bit jealous. Now that its on Verizone, I will probably switch when the new model comes out in June For now. quote: With the Apple App Store currently showing a 100,000 lead in available downloads vs. the Android Market, the latter has been making a strong charge toward becoming the larger of the two. Since October of last year, the Android Market added 150,000 apps vs. 65,000 for the App Store. But at current rates, it won't be too long before we have a reversal and a new leader. The current numbers show 350,000 apps for the App Store vs. 250,000 for the Android Market.
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Thems is fightin words...Here we go. The Jobites will be here shortly to defend their beloved iphones. | |
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Re: Thems is fightin words...Just like the Androidites will be here to defend their device. It's a matter of preference. If a website loads up 1-2 seconds slower on a device that I feel I can do far more with then so be it. It doesn't bother me at all. I actually HAVE tried both OSes and while I did like Android, I did not enjoy the other problems that came with the device. I personally did not have the time to go through each Android device to find one that actually worked as it should. I purchased the iPhone 4 and haven't looked back since.
It does everything I need it to, battery life is sometimes 2 full days and I have not had issues with finding any apps that I have needed. | |
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Re: Thems is fightin words...Still no mobile site for dslreports. :-( | |
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2011-Mar-17 9:45 am
Re: Thems is fightin words...said by ArrayList:Still no mobile site for dslreports. :-( Agree.. they have the text version but its OK but basic. | |
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2011-Mar-17 9:48 am
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Just out of curiosity, can the iphone download a song from a website (mp3) and add it to its music catalog without you having to be home and attached with a physical cable to a music playing program? | |
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2011-Mar-17 11:02 am
Re: Thems is fightin words...said by delusion ftl :Just out of curiosity, can the iphone download a song from a website (mp3) and add it to its music catalog without you having to be home and attached with a physical cable to a music playing program? Steve doesn't want iPhone users to do that, so He made iTunes on the 1st day of His creation, and proclaimed "Let there be songs!" | |
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theres a few apps that actually let you download songs. don't know where they come from, but they let you download them. pretty sure it is pirating since its free. but yea. | |
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said by delusion ftl :Just out of curiosity, can the iphone download a song from a website (mp3) and add it to its music catalog without you having to be home and attached with a physical cable to a music playing program? You can buy music, TV Shows, Movies, and Book from you iPhone (in one convient place) and have them come down to you phone without a cable... has been that way since bout 2008... | |
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2011-Mar-17 12:29 pm
Re: Thems is fightin words...No, not buy through itunes. Download, like a free (legal) mp3 from a website. I thought I made the question clear as it seems like a very simple thing to do. Example: » www.publicdomain2ten.com ··· -go-mp3/ | |
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Re: Thems is fightin words..said by battleop:Thems is fightin words. Here we go. | |
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Re: Thems is fightin words..Is there an app for that? | |
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2011-Mar-17 9:46 am
I've had bothBoth have their advantages. Admittedly, my iPhone was a 16gb 3GS, and I just purchased a high-end Android (Atrix). I have a core set of applications that I use, (UPS, BofA, FB, Twitter, Google Earth) and so far Android has all of them.
I know that iPhone for sheer usability beats the Android, but the Android is more for 'tinkerers'. I qualify for that description.
The deal breaker for me over the course of time was iTunes. For the great hardware that Apple puts out, iTunes is a huge $hitburger. | |
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2011-Mar-17 1:55 pm
Re: I've had bothI have had just about every phone out there. blackberry, sprint evo 4g, droid x, iphone 3g (s) and now iphone 4.
Is there issues with every phone, yes! Every phone has it's own unique issues.
From what I have felt and heard using the iphone 4, it feels the best and sounds the best call quality wise (verizon network).
I really do like it. The droid x is a great phone, but I just kept coming back to the iphone. | |
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2011-Mar-17 10:46 am
Where is Ottowa?^ | |
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2011-Mar-17 12:31 pm
Re: Where is Ottowa?'Ottawa' is the capital of Canada. | |
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HmmmI just want to remind everyone that the article probably missed by a long shot that the most tests were very likely done before the new iOS came out with the improved Safari browser.
If you were to compare browsers in Blackberry OS 5 vs OS 6 there would be a huge difference!
It also does not say which models of iPhone were in tests. iPhone 4 is a lot faster than iPhone 3GS | |
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And Verizon has the most DroidsVerizon + Android = WINNING! | |
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BSI'm calling bullshit ... who the hells Blaze and why should I care? | |
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Hmmm...I just wish Commodore hadn't been run into the ground by greedy ass clowns because I have no doubt an Amiga smart phone would rule all!! | |
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This again huh?Verizon had one of their iPhone commercials on the other night. The gist was if you don't have this app or that thing then well you don't have an iPhone. They installed the Delta Airlines app during the commercial. On the screen was also IMDB and a couple others I can't remember. What I did notice is that I had every one of them on my EVO. Hmm, gee. If there are a million apps out there and I only want a few dozen...and have them thank you...then why do I give a rip? iPhone 4 certainly seems a bit better battery wise, but seriously the people I talk to with iPhone who actually use the thing still charge it every night or during the day. And no, you aren't going to go streaming for hours & hours every day and not charge it for a week like some folks like to say they do...whatever. I have been very pleased with the browser speed on the EVO. Works a lot better than anything I've had before...and when I pick up an iPhone the screen is so much smaller...wow, I've been spoiled. But I see we're going to continue with these threads...joy of joys. | |
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