“No one is immune,” he said. “The big problem I see right now is not outsiders doing this; rather, it is people who purport to be contributing members in our industry. As a result, we know who is doing this, we know where they are, we know where they process transactions, we know where they bank, we know where they host and we know where they live.

“This means when we come for you, we know how to get you. To the thieves that laugh about this, remember that we are coordinated. We are your affiliates, we are the guys you sit next to at industry dinners and the people that bump your posts on boards. Hiding is hard to do when we know what you look like, bro.”

Tucker’s new target refers largely to the deluge of “tube” websites that have sprung up in the past few years: styled after the ever-so-popular YouTube, there are now hundreds of these sites offering free streaming video complete with search engines, indexed content, tagging, and in some cases even a download option. Much of their content, however, is pirated.

said by LiamJunket :

Unlike the RIAA or the MPAA, the porn industry is backed by the Mafia and their threats to crack down on web sites breaking copyright carries some leg-breaking weight.

said by Xizer :

Oooh, scary!! Not. The Mafia are a bunch of pussies these days. They can't accomplish shit and it would be foolish to be afraid of them.

said by BeesTea :

You're posting from Kenosha, WI. You're going to post authoritatively about the mob? Seriously?

That's pretty funny.

said by BeesTea :

I live in Chicago, I know where Kenosha is. There's no more organized crime in Kenosha than there is in Portage Indiana, your opposing distant end of fringe "Chicagoland".

said by Xizer :

OH NO THE MOB IS WATCHING ME OVER THE INTERNETS

said by Xizer :

Kenosha is a Chicago suburb.

said by BeesTea :

You're posting from Kenosha, WI. You're going to post authoritatively about the mob? Seriously?

That's pretty funny.

said by Bink63 :

Kenosha isn't a suburb of Chicago, it's a suburb of Racine!

said by LiamJunket :

I'll bet they are more successful at getting compliance than the RIAA is.

said by ja2007123 :

Copying without the authorization of the author is illegal don't you think.
If I go to blockbuster, and I take a laptop, I can make a copy of the dvd and that would be stupid and illegal.

So my point, it doesn't matter if the original is in possession of its owner, you are making a copy WITHOUTH authorization.

said by ja2007123 :

Yeah sharing is not illegal. But sharing a "copy" is illegal.
When you share your stuff, let say your dvds, you are sharing the actual cds and that's completely legal. But sharing files is diffrent, you are making copies and sharing.

said by dadkins :

There is no theft! No one stole anything.

It is Copyright Infringement at best! Nothing more!

Bring your scenario to my house.
Grab________ DVD or Blu-ray.
Knock yourself out!
Now what?
I paid money for my discs.
If you ask me, I have no problem with you having a copy - of any media I own.
CDs
DVDs
Blu-rays
Games
Applications
Insert data here ___________

Since I allowed you access to my library, you did not steal anything... did you?

You are not a pirate, you are not a thief.
Even if you were to look at it from the point of view of the author - it is not theft!
*I* would never call you a thief - you didn't steal anything! You copied it!

All my childhood growing up I was always told to share...
Want one?

EDIT: Got VCR? Got DVR? Do you know what they do? They copy.
Does that also make you a thief?

I have the whole 1st season of Robot Chicken on one of my HDDs - part of season 2.
Did I "Steal" them?

said by captain456 :

no I'm not in the industry and yes I've done the same thing myself I just am man enough to admit it is not right and I don't have to lie to myself and others to sleep at night.

said by SauceMaster :

Sounds like the pot , calling the kettle black. You are trying to preach the good word ..in the end you admit to doing the same.

So what makes you any better to say what someone is ? Maybe you should practice what you are preaching ?

said by captain456 :

Yes it is theft. Do you not understand that you do NOT OWN THE MOVIE even if you buy the DVD? You own the physical dvd and that is all. You DO NOT own the content on the DVD. All you bought was the privalige (or in softwares case lisence) to watch the movie. It's not yours to share with even your friends. by doing so you are STEALING the content on the DVD. and no I'm not in the industry and yes I've done the same thing myself I just am man enough to admit it is not right and I don't have to lie to myself and others to sleep at night.

said by dadkins :

There is no theft! No one stole anything.

It is Copyright Infringement at best! Nothing more!

Bring your scenario to my house.
Grab________ DVD or Blu-ray.
Knock yourself out!
Now what?
I paid money for my discs.
If you ask me, I have no problem with you having a copy - of any media I own.
CDs
DVDs
Blu-rays
Games
Applications
Insert data here ___________

Since I allowed you access to my library, you did not steal anything... did you?

You are not a pirate, you are not a thief.
Even if you were to look at it from the point of view of the author - it is not theft!
*I* would never call you a thief - you didn't steal anything! You copied it!

All my childhood growing up I was always told to share...
Want one?

EDIT: Got VCR? Got DVR? Do you know what they do? They copy.
Does that also make you a thief?

I have the whole 1st season of Robot Chicken on one of my HDDs - part of season 2.
Did I "Steal" them?

said by dadkins :

So, every time YOU record something to your DVR, YOU are stealing too?

Admitting it is the first step!

I have 3 laptops that are DVRs.
At least one will be recording something at night... usually.
Bad Bad thief, huh?
Recording TV is not stealing - look it up!

BTW, joining DSLReports is free.

said by karlmarx :

But, umm, that's EXACTLY what I did. I got a blockbuster pass, a very nice notebook, a 500GB external hard drive. On Sat Morning, I would go in and get 2 movies, sit in my car, rip them (about 10 minutes to copy each DVD), and then walk in, trade back my movies, and repeat, ALL DAY LONG. Guess what, what I did was PERFECTLY LEGAL. I was choosing to space/time shift the content I LEGALLY ACQUIRED! I didn't 'pirate' the movies, I rented them. In about 8 hours, I copied about 50 movies every saturday.
If you listen to the **ASSASSes, what I did was illegal. But, it's NOT. I PAID FOR THE MOVIE. I GET TO WATCH IT WHEN I WANT TO.

Look at it this way. What are you 'getting' when you rent a movie? Are you getting the media? If so, then I have the media, and I can do what I want to with it. The fact that it's media, and I RETURNED it, that's not theft.

Are you renting the 'right to watch it'. Well, that's what I'm doing too! I'm watching it, just not on their terms. If I sat in my car, and ran the DVD at 20x speed to watch it, would I be breaking the law? That's exactly what I did, I just chose to watch it at regular speed at a later date.

In any case, the manager knew exactly what I was doing, and he DIDN'T CARE. Not...even...a....little.

said by dadkins :

"Pirated", "stolen", "thieves"...

When someone is seen/caught raping and killing someone then stealing their media, then we can call them a "pirate".

If one copies a movie, the original is still in the possession of it's owner - nothing was "stolen"

Until someone actually goes into BlockBuster and walks out with a disc or discs, they are not a thief.

Call them what they are - "Copyright Infringers".
Not as dramatic, is it?

Pretty soon, borrowing a DVD will be considered illegal/stealing/piracy.
What then?

How about, only YOU can watch YOUR DVDs.
I have a stack of discs.
You come over for a visit.
You see a disc or three that you would like to watch.
Out of fear of prosecution or lawsuit, I refuse too allow you.

You did not pay for it, you are stealing if you view a movie without paying for it!!!1

said by dadkins :

I have "shared" music with my entire block before - my last car had (roughly) 1260 WATTS RMS @ 0.5% THD.

Music?
Ever hear about Internet Radio?
Ever hear about recording software?
Many of us have, and recording music is not illegal.

Music is so unimportant - to me at least.
Movies, well, I am a member at a site where I can rent movies for next to nothing(less than $1.00).

So, all this posturing about theft and stealing is rather pointless.
Copying, no matter what anyone tries to say, is not "stealing", period.

Some of you are... funny.
You go right ahead and keep telling yourselves that copying is theft/stealing/piracy.
If it makes you happy, I'm ok with it!

Now, I have to add a few items to my ORB page - see ya!

PROPERTY - Not only money and other tangible things of value, but also includes any intangible right considered as a source or element of income or wealth.

said by YouohmeandI :

...Save them as an MP3 and it's perfectly legal...