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Should anti-spyware block behavioral advertising?
(old news - 09:36AM Tuesday Apr 29 2008)
tags: business · privacy · content · consumers
Techdirt directs our attention to the fact that the Anti-Spyware coalition is considering whether Spyware vendors should block behavioral advertising. New behavioral ad systems track your browsing habits via deep packet inspection (DPI) hardware on the ISP network. The ad vendor then sends you more customized ads based on your online activity. The problem so far has been that ISPs don't clearly inform users that they've started tracking them, and the opt-out system is, for lack of a more technically precise term, junk.

As the NY Times Blog explores, the idea is that using anti-Spyware tools to block such services would put the power back into the hands of the consumer. Of course anti-spyware software can't stop the DPI hardware from tracking your online activity. Such systems do use cookies however -- both for opting-out of ad-delivery (but not tracking) and for inter-ad network communications.
All this puts even more pressure on the Anti-Spyware Coalition, the Internet providers, the monitoring companies and other interested parties to look closely at these programs and try to reach a consensus about much Internet providers should be able to observe about their customers, what choices they give, and how they use the information.
While the Times seems optimistic, it's hard to think that anything will come of this. Anti-Spyware vendors and consumers generally lose when it comes to the fight against "legitimate" (the term is used loosely) marketing efforts. Recall that the Anti-Spyware Coalition was formed after spyware vendors infiltrated and destroyed the group's previous incarnation. Once re-formed, it took years for the group to even define what spyware was.

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mod_wastrel

join:2008-03-28

New word?

"opt-outing"?

(nit-picking ;D)

woody7
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pffftttt.....

This just needs to be "opt inning", which we know will never happen. there has to be a way of "poisoning" this...Peace
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No ads & no cookies I don't want

There is nothing you can do on your PC to stop an ISP from spying on WHERE you go. But you can stop ad delivery and cookies very easily.

I only accept cookies from sites I want. And I use adblock-plus to stop ad delivery.
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Re: No ads & no cookies I don't want

Another one I agee upon
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bgraham

join:2001-03-15
Smithtown, NY

It's my computer,

and my bandwidth and in my house, so I think I can do anything I like. If I want to have software that blocks ads and delete cookies that's my choice.

I really don't see what the issue is here.

David M

@ntl.com

Re: It's my computer,

said by bgraham See Profile :

and my bandwidth and in my house, so I think I can do anything I like. If I want to have software that blocks ads and delete cookies that's my choice.

I really don't see what the issue is here.
you dont seem to have read up on this new (unlawful in the UK/EU without a court order or consent of both partys (the user and the website owner))use for deep packet inspection (DPI) hardware on the ISP network.

dont you care about your auto copyright protected datastream, or for 3rd partys to profit from your data property, without a single penny or contract coming to you for its use as you see fit?.

how about your privacy when using web based email for yourself or your family , they can see all that http based data etc.

blocking the cookies will NOT stop your full datastream being intercepted or collected, for processing and later anonymising of any your data they deem valuble to them.

its the total oposite of the usual cookie use.

the simple answer is to read these links for a true non PR written news copy tech/legal view.

its known that Phorm use layer7/Deep Packet Inspection kit to intercept and collect _all_ your data stream regardless of what data they then process and act upon, anonymise etc.

and in the UK/EU that is unlawful without court orders for far more acurate detail's and the real feeling in this see:

the longest Phorm related thread on the net, and legal/moral/tech comments by the very paying UK customers effected by this unlawful interception.
»www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33···ted.html

The Phorm ???Webwise??? System - a Legal Analysis
Nicholas Bohm
23rd April 2008
»www.fipr.org/080423phormlegal.pdf

FIPR (the official advisor body to the UK Govt)calls on Home Office to withdraw misleading advice on Phorm.
»www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/···n-phorm/

»www.openrightsgroup.org/

the many ElReg news coverage
»www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04/24···ge2.html

»www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/29···roundup/

to get you started...

thanks, David M
Garius

join:2002-04-18

Sidestepping Legislation

Why isn't there any legislation out there that can spot obvious "plots" by these companies that allow them to continue shoveling their crap all over people's systems?

I remember the old "define spyware" argument. It had two goals: stalling further legislation while a "definition" was written, and then allowing them to customize their spyware around the "definition" so that they couldn't legally be classified as spyware any more, EVEN THOUGH THEY STILL WERE.

Why is it that nobody can SEE through this kind of thing? Why are kindergarten-level delay tactics that any parent would spot in under a second somehow beyond the comprehension of legislators? Everybody knows what this crap is and nobody wants it on their systems.

John French

@ntl.com

Phorm

I am in the UK and with Virgin Media who have signed up to Phorm. I am seriously considering terminating my contract with them. On their website they are trying to 'sell' Phorm as a security add-on that will enhance my browsing experience. What a load of cr@p.

I hope that spyware companies stop Phorm from being able to access my browsing history. In the meantime I will be using Firefox only and have added the de-phormation add-on.

»www.john-french.net
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