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kudos:2 | Ugly indeed. I caught this tidbit yesterday, when I was back in mobile data range. At some point the law should cease being a bludgeon to secure your position in the market.
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So, instead of doing something smart about it, like you know... actually innovating and making their product better, they are instead suing everything that moves!
I love this patent that Apple just got. It covers just about any sort of "search-as-you-type" system. The Firefox awesome bar, Android search (every Android device that exists), Google Instant, any webpage with javascript autocomplete, the Windows Vista/7 Start Menu, the Windows 8 Metro Start Screen, etc.
Yeah... that's right, you are all violating Apple's patent!
What I want to know is who in their right mind allowed this completely idiotic patent to be passed in the first place!? There are so many various forms of prior art that this patent needs to be shot down... yesterday!
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| Re: Ugly indeed. said by trparky:What I want to know is who in their right mind allowed this completely idiotic patent to be passed in the first place!? There are so many various forms of prior art that this patent needs to be shot down... yesterday!
The minute software patents became allowed, countries that allowed them opened themselves up to all this nonsense.
Software should have remained within the real of copyright and never come in contact with the patent regime.
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kudos:2 | Injunction appears to be primarily based upon unified voice search (i.e. Siri). Fairly sure Google had rudimentary voice search before Apple dropped Siri on the world. Google has languished in playing this patent game and now finds itself late to need IMO. | |
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| Re: Ugly indeed. Google has the patents that it needs to crush Apple but so far has been reluctant to "go to bat" for their Android manufacturing partners.
Don't forget, they got a ton of patents in their acquisition of Motorola Mobility.
And with RIM on the slippery slide down to complete ruin, it would be smart of Google to buy up all of their patents on the cheap during the fire sale.
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kudos:2 | Re: Ugly indeed. said by trparky:Google has the patents that it needs to crush Apple but so far has been reluctant to "go to bat" for their Android manufacturing partners. That was kind of my point.said by trparky:And with RIM on the slippery slide down to complete ruin, it would be smart of Google to buy up all of their patents on the cheap during the fire sale. I don't see Google snagging RIM....or the market allowing Google to do so. | |
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| Re: Ugly indeed. said by openbox9:I don't see Google snagging RIM....or the market allowing Google to do so.
There would also be some massive outrage (manufactured/political and genuine) with regards to the hollowing out of the Canadian corporate sector and the government would most likely step in to block what would be viewed as a foreign acquisition... much like the potash corp/BHP Billiton acquisition was blocked at the last minute.
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As much as I would love google to do that, I fear that the hispters would cry monopoly and try everything in their power to shoot it down. I can't tell you how many times I've had to deal with their stupidity, and listen to them go on about how apple is the only corporation that looks out for the little guy and helps keep the evil tech megacorps from raping the world by giving us competition, better specs, parts, and lower prices. I cannot fathom how someone cannot see how evil apple is, let alone thinking letting them attain a monopoly would be a good thing. I'm not trying to say goolge is innocent just that they are the lesser of two evils. | |
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| Re: Ugly indeed. said by me1212:I can't tell you how many times I've had to deal with their stupidity, and listen to them go on about how apple is the only corporation that looks out for the little guy and helps keep the evil tech megacorps from raping the world by giving us competition, better specs, parts, and lower prices. There's a word for people like that... iSheep.
You can't talk to those kind of people, they have drank the iKoolaid and have been completely indoctrinated into the Apple Cult.
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Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Ugly indeed. And those same people are probably praising this as a victory for the little guy as they normal do when this stuff happens. Normally I don't care about someone's economics beliefs but in cases like these where they hurt competition and promote monopolies and hurt the consumers then yeah I have a problem with those people and their beliefs. But like you said its(apple) more of a religious cult then a company now. Heck there was even a study that proved isheep(you really need to patent that word man) when just looking at apple products have the same mental/brain reaction as extremist religious people do when religious stuff happens in their life. | |
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| Re: Ugly indeed. Oh, I'd love to trademark the word "iSheep", it'd be funny as hell.
I can see the definition now...
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1. A person who has bought into the Apple product line so much that they believe every word that comes forth from Apple. They consistently believe that Apple products are superior just because Apple tells them so despite the fact that the rest of the industry has proven their statements false.
2. A person who has been indoctrinated into the Apple Cult.
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Maybe someday once apple goes too far with its trying to make jail breaking stuff a felony the DOJ will finally wise up and do something. | |
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| Re: Ugly indeed. said by me1212:I sincerely wish the DOJ would bring the ban hammer of justice down on apple, they are worse than even the MS of yesteryear.
Maybe someday once apple goes too far with its trying to make jail breaking stuff a felony the DOJ will finally wise up and do something.
Strictly speaking Apple isn't a monopoly.
Their behavior is ripe for some type of class action, and you can certainly make a case that they're using their dominant position in order to gain an unfair advantage.
I'm just thankful that Canada does not have a software patent regime (yet)
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kudos:7 | said by trparky:Google has the patents that it needs to crush Apple but so far has been reluctant to "go to bat" for their Android manufacturing partners. Many of those patents are there not for offensive weapons, but for defensive shields in case they are directly sued. Theoretically they could step up to bad for the manufacturers, but at this point it's just injunctions and the lawsuits haven't gone to trial.
Samsung, even if it does take the $200m hit, isn't exactly hurting for money, which is probably another reason Google hasn't stepped in much yet. Last quarter of 2011, they sold $42b and had operating profits of $4.7b. If it was RIM for instance that was make-or-break on Android, then things might be different. | |
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| Re: Ugly indeed. said by trparky:But having a phone that can't be imported because of this stupid injunction isn't good either.
Exactly I'd be furiously working to get this repealed ASAP
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kudos:2 | Re: Still up to no good... Apple is busy turning itself into Microsoft. Please just leave them alone.
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kudos:8 | Re: Still up to no good... No. Microsoft would want $ to license their products, but never shut down competition. Apple, on the other hand, is afraid of anything that affects their closed-ecosystem, and will bankrupt itself to protect it. | |
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kudos:2 | Appeal I suspect that Samsung's appeal has already been filed. May not be heard... but I'm betting it's already been submitted. Apple is claiming that letting Samesung's phone and tablets being sold will forever harm Apple? I can't see that it would, beyond what a monitary award would give them. It's not like Apple's target customer is going to see the light from another Android phone being placed on the market.
I certainlly understand any companies right to protect their products but this uber technical protection is certainly getting out of hand. What is eventually going to happen is that a company, such as Apple in this case, is going to loose, it's going to cost them millions and then their attorneys will think twice before recommending lawsuits be filed (well... their _new_ attorneys_ will). | |
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Mechanicsville, VA | Re: Appeal But isn't that what a free market is about? I come out with a better product than you and make more money? Since when do the courts get to decide what corporation succeeds and which doesn't? | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Appeal Apple's claim is not that Samsung came out with a "better" product... it's that Samsung illegally came out with the _same_ product. You can't copy someone else's design and sell it as your own. It amounts to stealing someone's ideas and that would break the free market.
I'm not saying I agree with Apple or these patent wars.
I always keep in mind Kleenex and Asprin which were brand names but the companies that owned them never enforced their use. If you don't enforce your right to a brand or patent, you will most likely loose that ability.
What I don't really agree with is the judges decision to stop sales and have Apple put up $96 million in return. Even if Samsung wins, in some way they are not going to see that $96 million and/or will at least need to spend a boat load of legal expense to get at it. What should happen is the judge should rule that 10% (or whatever) of the product is Apple's so Apple gets 10% of the revenue. Apple's claim is that somehow the _sale_ alone of the product hurts Apple's over-all market. | |
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User/field replaceable(10-20 seconds) batteries.
USB connectivity to PC/MAC. (real handy for tethering/transfering data to/from laptop/pc/mac/linux box.)
LTE or HSDPA+ 21 capability.. (really fast).
iphone 4s CDMA version has no LTE, and HSDPA+ limited to 14.4 Mbps.
Built upon GPL open source OS (linux), can be rooted, and user takes over near total control.
Much cheaper to purchase and operate.
($350 unlocked/retail, $30/mo for 5GB of 4G+100minutes of voice, UL text).
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| Re: Appeal Umm.. that isn't what this lawsuit is about.
I actually have both Android (Samsung Galaxy SII) and iPhone 4.
For overall usability, and cost, I prefer the iPhone 4.
iPhone limited to 14.4Mbps vs. Samsung having LTE isn't really a game changer for a majority of users, IMHO. I'll admit, having a larger screen is a benefit.
On the iPhone/iOS side, all apps work consistently across devices... you won't hear that on an android, and upgrades aren't consistent either (Time Warner TV won't work on Android below ICS). The 'average' user won't care if Android is build on Linux (I like) or locked iOS or even - Wind0z.
Having battery replacement on the Android is a nice feature, however, its almost a necessity, as I've found that unless you perform a decent amount of actions (customization), battery life can be depleted quickly on devices like the Samsung i777 | |
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| Re: Appeal I wrote 14.4Mbps HSDPA for the Iphone 4S.. you have an predecessor model..
The IPhone 4 has an even weaker radio.. Just 7.2 Mbps HSDPA...
All those older Iphones using a wireless network has a tendency to chew up/waste valuable spectrum.
I.E Samsung Nexus can transfer 3x the data in the same time/bandwidth as a Iphone 4 or conversely use one third the time/bandwidth to transfer the same amount of data.
This legacy aspect gives carriers like T-mobile an edge, where newer phones == 1.5 to 3x spectrum multiplier/advantage over AT&T. | |
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For some reason many Apple fans feel the need to lay claim to the most superior product in order to justify their purchase of it. Why is it so scary to just stand up and say I like my Apple product period. It doesn't matter if it's the best/fastest/shiniest/most popular etc..
Once you can do that you'll have a lot more credibility.
In reality land android has produced overall better phones for around 2-3 years now. Will it always be that way? Probably not.
Arguably today android tablets are overall better than ipads, at least as they relate to the average consumer an their typical use of tablets. Will it always be this way? Probably not. Some argue that the "retina" display of the ipad 3 put it back on top, they may or may not be right, but the point is that Apple (or android) devices do not have to be superior to justify you owning them.
In the case of Apple's suits, it is very clear that even if you don't think the android devices are better, Apple does.
I don't think any reasonably minded individual could hold a 3gs and a nexus one and not come to the conclusion that Steve Jobs came to that the nexus one overall was a better device.
It was the same with the ipad2 and the galaxy tab 10.1. Samsung had released a faster, nicer, better screen, thinner and less expensive etc... device. | |
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kudos:8 | said by Anzio:lol. Samsung came out with a superior product. You're funny.
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kudos:1 | said by tcope:Apple's claim is not that Samsung came out with a "better" product... it's that Samsung illegally came out with the _same_ product. You can't copy someone else's design and sell it as your own. It amounts to stealing someone's ideas and that would break the free market.
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Mechanicsville, VA | Huh? I have not read the entire article, but from the bit that Karl posted, when did the courts get the right to decide who makes it in a free market and who doesn't? | |
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everytime i go in Best Buy and look at the tv's they all look the same..they are all square or rectangle..most even have a on/off button on the front! | |
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| | | Re: talk about Well if the current patent system was in place way back during the "invention" of these things, I can assure you that would not be the case now. | |
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kudos:2 | Meanwhile they're likely all paying patent license fees to the same someone. | |
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| From wikipedia The 1890 depression resulted in an unfavorable view of patents. The depression was marked by a strained economy in which patents were perceived as a method of promoting monopolies.
This negative attitude towards patents led to the inception of the Sherman Antitrust Act. During the depression, many opposed patents, and this is depicted in the tendency of courts to invalidate patents. The conclusion of the depression also ended the negative attitudes towards patents; however, the Patent Law underwent opposition again in the Great Depression. This skepticism towards patents again returned after World War II in another period of economic depression.
The point is that patents that are issued (I used to work in that dept in a company) are clearly "common sense" and "broad", in fact in the old days the "inventor" had to submit a working prototype for the patent even to be considered. Its gotten to the point where a company like Monsanto wants to patent Basmati rice, which if you ever went to India, it's been around for 1000's of years and there are 1000 types. If Monsanto had it's way there would be 1 type.
In any case Samsung has their 2nd gen tab out and while the Nexus is a great phone, their newer ones are better. So it's more of a logistical supply issue. They went after the Nexus because you can buy it for $400 (lots cheaper than an iphone) on google play unlocked. Sorry Apple, $650 is not competitive.
I was watching Star Trek the other day from say 1994, and the tablets look a lot like an ipad, and you know how they transferred data from the computer to a tablet--touch it. Remind you of NFC. Maybe the Star Trek franchise should patent the tablet, and watch Apple howl.
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| | | Re: From wikipedia 1.) Patents should never be granted without a fully working product (key words working & product).
2.) Software, thus programming code, should never be patented just copyrighted.
3.) Concepts, Methods and/or Processes should never be patented.
Patents and Copyrights should be granted for X time which is reasonable for the creator to make a reasonable amount of money in return for them (Patents 10 years, Copyrights 75 years). Afterwards they enter the public domain. | |
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1.) Patents should never be granted without a fully working product (key words working & product).
2.) Software, thus programming code, should never be patented just copyrighted.
I like the idea o the working product, overall on both counts... HELL NO!
NO PATENTS, NO COPYRIGHTS, NO IP, NO TRADEDRESS, NO NO NO NO!
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3.) Concepts, Methods and/or Processes should never be patented.
Correct!
said by Skippy25:
Patents and Copyrights should be granted for X time which is reasonable for the creator to make a reasonable amount of money in return for them (Patents 10 years, Copyrights 75 years). Afterwards they enter the public domain.
NO WAY! WAAY TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LONG ON BOTH COUNTS!
If these were allowed, see above, 2-3 years on patents tops, maybe 3-5 on copyrights... but really they just all need to go!
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Copyrights should be around 15 years or so and then go into public domain. | |
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This is a clear case of jealousy on Apple's part. Unlike Samsung, which actually knows how to make quality tech products, Apple's philosophy is to rip off the innovations of others, slap a shiny coat of white paint on it, mark the price up by 3x and put a cult logo on it and watch as the sheep eat it up. Apple has some nerve accusing Samsung of ripping them off when nothing Apple does is original. It just goes to show that marketing is more important than substance.
Samsung's Galaxy products are a great example of the competition providing a tech product which is superior in every way to the latest piece of crap Apple has shat out.
If you can't beat the competition, just abuse the legal system, a broken patent system, and bribe corrupt judges to railroad the competition out of the market. Apple knows they have nothing to bring to the table against Samsung's superior products.
This is why I will never purchase a product from the evil empire. I'll pay twice as much and import a black market Samsung phone if I have to just to avoid this example of capitalism at its worst. | |
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The USPTO just needs to do it's damn job..
DING DING DING DING! We have a winner! HOLD YOUR CARDS!
said by KrK:
. and if a patent is granted, and then the clear evidence of prior art is presented, it should swiftly be invalidated.
If they doing their J - O - B ! then this should not be a problem. The problem is those employed in this office, especially in tech areas, would not a 4004 from a Sempron or what either probably is!
Its just time for this whole mess to go! DO not pass go, do not collect one penny, go back to whence you came!
Just gone! For good!
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Software patents are particularly suspect and should be under the realm of copyright(s) and not patentable IMHO.
Correct, NOT PATENTABLE.
WRONG, NO ON COPYRIGHTABLE too.
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kudos:2 | Re: Patent troll Anybody know how to get a job in the USPTO?
If I had a job there I think I'd have too much fun. I'd have to have a stamp and a red ink pad on my desk. *stamp stamp stamp* LOL | |
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Madison, NJ | What's most interesting. What's most interesting is the way Apple is using the US Court system.
There have been many clashes over patents and those claiming missuse of patented processes usually approach the other company and attempt to get a "financial settlement" appropriate for the use of the patent. Some issues have gone to court and Apple has lost several cases like that small Singapore tech company which they finally had to pay $100 Million a few years ago. Note in all these cases the idea is NOT to ban a product, but to gain reasonable financial settlement for the process covered by a patent.
However, Apple appears to be using the US court system as a means to completely BAN products. They are not using patents to gain reasonable revenue for the uses of covered processes rather to ban competitive products.
There are so many ideas and processes covered by patents that occasional infringement seems inevitable. Why then is the US court system allowing Apple to effectively ban products from sale rather than aiming to aportion appropriate remuneration? | |
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Saint Louis, MO | Re: What's most interesting. said by RyanThaDude:and the judge probably drinks the iKoolAid.
What is it with people assuming that judges are corrupt because a ruling doesn't go the way they want to? This is as bad as the people claiming that Obama threatened to kidnap Robert's children if he didn't uphold the ACA.
Judges rule on the facts of the case. It doesn't matter what you think of Apple v. Google, Open source vs. Proprietary, Large screen vs. small screen. None of those facts were being litigated.
The core of the case:
Did Apple design and sell a device with a certain set of functions BEFORE or AFTER Samsung submitted a patent proposal?
That is it, either it is BEFORE or AFTER. A binary decision.
Don't make this more complicated than it needs to be.
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I went from PPC 6700(Apache)>6800(Mogul)>TP1>TP2>Evo Shift>Gnex
I was reluctant to give up HTC, but after seeing none of the carrier bloat and plain vanilla android OS w/ no Sense or TouchWiz nonsense-- with no need to root to remove all that crap (not that rooting, especially this handset, is tough) and worry about being able to restore stock if you physically mess you handset up too much to function. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Awww problem is today companies can patent the look of things and simple operations tasks.
if the automotive world where like smartphones some car maker would be suing everybody else in the industry after a retard at the patent office awarded them a patent for "Self powered multiple passenger transport".
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| | CheesePremium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | said by Squirrelly:ifanboys and droidfanboys are funny. ALL companies copy and improve something that was already there.
Get over yourselves and use what YOU like and don't worry about what someone else is using.
Yeaaaaaaaaaa, except the manufacturer of the android devices aren't trying to block competitors products....for stuff that's been around for years....
a small difference....
And people ARE trying to use what they WANT but APPLE doesn't want those products on the market, not sure what's hard to understand about that. | |
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Camden, TN | Anyone that supports Apple is a.............. well I can't say what I really feel since it would be modded anyways. | |
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| | | Re: Anyone that supports Apple is a.............. said by BF69:well I can't say what I really feel since it would be modded anyways.
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| | | | Re: Anyone that supports Apple is a.............. If it's that stupid Siri, sell the phone without it and the ability to add it as an app.
I'd root my phone and get rid of any voice apps anyway. I don't care for them. | |
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kudos:2 | Fangirls are lame iSheep vs Hemmorid fanboys...always good for a laugh. | |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | I like Apple products.... They are usually well thought out and designed, have pleasing aesthetics and great UI.
However, Apple, the Corporation.... I have huge issues with.
Their lack of business ethics, their willingness to cheat and steal other technology and ideas and inventions then claim it as their own, their constant refusing to compete on the market with the strength of their products and instead simply try to ban and block the competition with blatant abuse of the patent system, to protect their exorbitant profit margins and remove consumer choice... this goes against my value system.
Their hypocrisy apparently knows no bounds, and to me they come across as arrogant and smug. They also probably don't give a damn what I think, because their goal is to make as much money as they can possibly make.... some may say they are the perfect corporation in this regards.
.... I disagree, I guess I'm old-fashioned to believe that you can still be a responsible company that acts ethically and morally and still make profits.... without selling out to the Love of Money.
Go Samsung. Go Google. Go Microsoft. Go anyone who can take Apple down a peg... and please, let's do something about this patent abuse.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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