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join:2004-10-30
Phoenix, AZ | Ha! Um... from what I've heard, Rogers doesn't do anything right, do they? | |
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON
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July 7th, @03:14PM
| Re: Ha! said by TechWhiz  :Um... from what I've heard, Rogers doesn't do anything right, do they? Nope, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple was really pissed with Rogers. Rogers has also scheduled a press conference for today so we may find out if the rumor is true.
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GlenQuagmire
Giggidy Giggidy Giggidy Goo
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join:2004-02-16
Grand Rapids, MI | As much as I hate to say this, Rogers can do anything they want and their is nothing anyone can do about it. If you want a Iphone I guess you have to pay for it.
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quickbeam
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join:2003-06-01
Ottawa
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| Re: Ha! said by GlenQuagmire :As much as I hate to say this, Rogers can do anything they want and their is nothing anyone can do about it. If you want a Iphone I guess you have to pay for it. If enough people complaint JUST maybe something good will happen. I'm just wondering if Rogers even gives a shit what Apple thinks of the rates....I mean they must have a contract written up. | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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| »www.appleinsider.com/articles/08···nes.html
Apple, disgusted with Rogers Wireless for dumping egregious service plans on would-be iPhone 3G buyers, has decided that its Canadian retail stores will have no part in helping the carrier market the new handset to customers, AppleInsider has learned.
As a result, Canadian Apple Retail stores won't be selling the new 3G touchscreen phones come Friday, representatives for the Cupertino-based company said during a private conference call on Monday evening. Instead, it will be up to Rogers and its partner Fido to lock subscribers into steep 3-year contracts that require a minimum monthly payment of $60 for just 150 minutes, 75 text messages, and 400MB of data.
Calls to Canadian Apple retail stores early Tuesday confirmed the move once over. Although the majority of the of stores contacted by AppleInsider said they were still unsure whether they'd be selling the new iPhone, one representative ultimately confirmed that Rogers and its partner stores will be the only place to buy iPhone 3G come Friday. Canadian Apple retail stores will, however, have demo units on hand the same day.
Word of Apple's abandonment of in-store sales comes just days after the company was reported to have sanctioned Rogers by diverting a significant amount of Canada's iPhone 3G shipments to Europe as initial retribution. As a result, the Canadian carrier will likely receive only about 10 to 20 units per store, and therefore should "exercise caution" not to promise ample stock on launch day, people familiar with the matter have said. Looks like Apple is putting heat on Rogers big time. Look for Rogers to fold SOON.
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vanDSLuser
Mahalo for reading
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join:2004-07-28
West Vancouver, BC | New license holders How long can you get infrastructure up? Sure, it'll take a while to get your investment back but offer iPhone and other data devices at a realistic price and you'll have half of Roger's customers and a good chunk of the other two triopolies. | |
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Windogg
join:2002-07-24
Cambridge, MA | Apple complaining about pricing? Hello Pot, meet Kettle. | |
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
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join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL | Re: Apple complaining about pricing? Indeed. That's just hilarious.
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C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL
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| Can you really be so dense?
Apple wants the iPhone to sell. And as witnessed with AT&T, part of what really helped iPhone sales was that the plans most commonly chosen/available were those that allowed users to take advantage of the iPhone's capabilities (namely, unlimited access to the mobile web and texting services, albeit with some ridiculously long paper bills).
By comparison, Robbers' plans here are going to be intensely stifling to users; so much so that many potential customers will no doubt be turned off and choose something else, even if the iPhone had everything they wanted out of a product.
Apple (while indirectly) is very much affected by such a draconian plan and requirement on the part of Robbers. | |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Ouch, let go of my... Did the CDN dollar take a big dive in the past week, or do those tiers seem REALLY expensive? | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Ouch, let go of my... said by jester121 :Did the CDN dollar take a big dive in the past week, or do those tiers seem REALLY expensive? They are but the fanbois will pay anything as long as its got the apple logo on it.
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Quake110
join:2003-12-20
Ottawa, ON
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July 7th, @04:28PM
| The CAD is still close to the USD "1 Canadian dollar = 0.982608 U.S. dollars" so yes, they ARE expensive.
Canada needs more GSM competitions. I really hope Apple develop a CDMA phone for Canada (Telus and Bell both have CDMA networks) just to shove it to Rogers. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Ouch, let go of my... If they have a GSM/UMTS based carrier that will run VoIP, they'd give Robbers/Bellus a run for their money.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: This whole "Rumor" smells of BS anyway My guess is it's just people being hopeful... though I suppose you could argue that Apple fears losing sales to Rogers' policies, Canada is a secondary market to Apple anyway and I'm sure Rogers and Apple had some sort of contract going into this... | |
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LaZ3R
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join:2003-01-17
Toronto, ON
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| Typical Rogers... All I have to say Hopefully no one is stupid enough to buy one of these overpriced plans. Let Rogers suffer and realize their mistake. If people start buying it, Rogers will only get the advantage and not do anything about it.
As for the blog post, I bet it's fake and all this is doing is pressuring consumers into buying an iPhone more if there is "limited availability" which there most likely won't be.
Rogers is out of their mind with these plans. How these plans were approved beats me, not a single one of the individuals responsible for finalizing these plans didn't think for a second "Hey... maybe our plans are fucking ridiculous compared to America's data plans."
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quickbeam
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join:2003-06-01
Ottawa
·Rogers Hi-Speed
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| Re: Typical Rogers... All I have to say said by LaZ3R :As for the blog post, I bet it's fake and all this is doing is pressuring consumers into buying an iPhone more if there is "limited availability" which there most likely won't be. After kfsutops mentioned he/she thought it was BS I was thinking exactly what I quoted you as saying. Sounds like a fake Rogers leak to me. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by LaZ3R :As for the blog post, I bet it's fake and all this is doing is pressuring consumers into buying an iPhone more if there is "limited availability" which there most likely won't be. "Create the urgency to buy"
A sales tactic old as time itself.
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Maynard G Krebs
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| said by LaZ3R :Rogers is out of their mind with these plans. How these plans were approved beats me, not a single one of the individuals responsible for finalizing these plans didn't think for a second "Hey... maybe our plans are fucking ridiculous compared to America's data plans." If Rogers/Fido iPhone plans were priced identically to those of ATT, there would have been a great sucking sound as Rogers would have scooped up huge numbers of Telus and Bell customers, far in excess of what Rogers have forecast for their current pricing model.
Matching ATT pricing/features would have severely hurt both Bell and Telus. And the Rogers/Fido network could accomodate such an influx of customers and data demands. | |
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james1
join:2001-02-26
antarctica | "Anonymous" sources? So nice to see that Anonymous took time away from protesting Scientology and posting Pedobear photoshops to inform us that Apple is mad at Rogers.
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kfsutops
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join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
clubs: | Re: "Anonymous" sources? Yeah. This smells more like blog spam. To bad it can't be voted down. | |
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FRogers
@bell.ca | No iPhone for you! Insider Rogers Cell Phone Employee: "The entire Canadian shipment for the iPhone July 11th launch, is 2,000 iPhones... far below the demand."
Rogers will lie and say otherwise. Apple diverted the other 10,000 iPhones to the EU markets. | |
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Finewitit
@bell.ca
| Re: No iPhone for you! Am i the only one ok with the plans? I don't plan on going online that much with it, unless i am at home or office with the wireless LAN over here. I've been with rogers for more then a decade now, so the 3 year contract i don't care about. I don't mind the 200$ and plan per month is about what i pay now. | |
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join:2007-11-16
Endicott, NY
| Re: No iPhone for you! said by Finewitit :
Am i the only one ok with the plans? I don't plan on going online that much with it, unless i am at home or office with the wireless LAN over here. I've been with rogers for more then a decade now, so the 3 year contract i don't care about. I don't mind the 200$ and plan per month is about what i pay now.
I'm glad you are happy with Rogers (Although you didn't say that... do you have a choice to go to another carrier?) It is a 3 year plan, which is longer than any other cell phone company on Earth. There are a lot of things that could make you change your mind during those three years, and a change in income (for the worse) is possible. I've seen it happen and people were forced into early termination clauses because it was cheaper.
It is a lot of extra cost for no real benefit. A pure money grab. There is nothing 'special' about Rogers. They use the same equipment that they do here in the States which means that every dollar you spend over the US plan rates is simply extra money that you are tossing to Roger's shareholders for no benefit.
If you don't mind paying extra for nothing, then could you do me a favor and just send it my way. I'd even send you a personal thank you card, which is more than you would receive from Rogers. | |
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pende_tim
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join:2004-01-04
Andover, NJ
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July 8th, @09:39AM
| Re: No iPhone for you! No heavily used phone will last 3 years. If you are in a 3 year contract, not only are you locked into the high rates for 3 years but if you need a phone to make use of the remaining time on the contract, you will have to pay full price.
IIRC the Iphone does not have a user replaceable battery, so right there is the first failure point. Li batteries typically last 2 years with normal charging frequency.
But then again, if some one can afford those rates, they can pop for a new phone at list price.
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | First adopter tax. If they are requiring a 3 year contract, you can expect in a few months that those tiers and pricing may change a lot. | |
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Capitalist
@cgocable.net | All I want is a dial tone and voicemail How much is the iPhone?
Cheapest plan:
($60 + $6.95 + $0.50) x 36 months = $2428.20
Most expensive plan:
($115 + $6.95 + $0.50) x 36 months = $4408.20
Call display is not included. U.S. data roaming is $3/MB. | |
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verolom
join:2002-03-23
Eatontown, NJ | Re: All I want is a dial tone and voicemail my God! one needs an extra full time job on the side to pay for this.
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p pratt
@shawcable.net | rogrrs iphone everyone should put pressure on rogers ....their prices should be the same as in the US | |
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Apple Irked With Rogers iPhone Pricing?