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Apple Loses Appeal of UK Samsung Ruling
Must Proclaim Publicly That Samsung Isn't a Copycat
by Karl Bode 02:21PM Thursday Oct 18 2012
Apple has lost an appeal over their claim that Samsung's Galaxy Tab 10.1 violated Apple patents. A judge at the High Court in London ruled back in July that the Tab was not a copy of the iPad, given the obvious fact the device was not as "cool" and lacked Apple's "extreme simplicity." According to the BBC, Apple's appeal has failed, and now Apple must run ads on its website and several major UK periodicals announcing they were wrong -- in order to "correct the damaging impression" that Samsung was a copycat. "We continue to believe that Apple was not the first to design a tablet with a rectangular shape and rounded corners and that the origins of Apple's registered design features can be found in numerous examples of prior art," Samsung said in a statement.

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lol

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given the obvious fact the device was not as "cool" and lacked Apple's "extreme simplicity."
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Apple loses more than wins in foreign country patent suits

Apple keeps losing these suits overseas. The only place they keep winning is with Lucy Koh and her home court rulings in her Calif courtroom.
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Re: Apple loses more than wins in foreign country patent suits

And they stirred the pot of the LTE patent pools
Their attempt to maintain shortterm market share is going to cost them a fortune in the long run.. maybe if they had some sense of direction/a better roadmap.

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Re: Apple loses more than wins in foreign country patent suits

said by tshirt:

maybe if they had some sense of direction/a better roadmap.

I see what you did there.
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said by FFH:

Apple keeps losing these suits overseas. The only place they keep winning is with Lucy Koh and her home court rulings in her Calif courtroom.

If the Brits really wanted to right the wrong Apple did to Samsung, the British courts would ban the sale of ALL Apple products in the UK until the California ruling mirrored theirs.
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overseas is not clouded by a judge and jury that live in the home state as one of the parties in the trial. And if the UK case had a jury of some kind(dunno if UK civil cases have an equal to a Jury) I doubt the foreman was a patent owner who also had previously been sued by a division of Samsung.
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be snarky at least

stolen from;

»www.reddit.com/r/technology/comm···/c6o9esx

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Prior Art?

Refresh my memory... what predates the Newton?

I'm not saying anyone should get to patent the idea of a square. And there were plenty of SciFi references to "tablet" devices long before Jobs was out of diapers. (they were just props, 'tho)

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Re: Prior Art?

Moses?
Tablets = square/rectangular shaped object used as method of sharing language/pictorial information with others.
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Re: Prior Art?

said by tshirt:

Moses?
Tablets = square/rectangular shaped object used method of sharing language/pictorial information with others.

^^2nd^^
Moses....LOL
Thanks, that made my day.

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said by tshirt:

Moses?
Tablets = square/rectangular shaped object used as method of sharing language/pictorial information with others.

Don't forget the round corners.
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That is classic!

Brilliant

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said by cramer:

Refresh my memory... what predates the Newton?

I'm not saying anyone should get to patent the idea of a square. And there were plenty of SciFi references to "tablet" devices long before Jobs was out of diapers. (they were just props, 'tho)

Newton was a PDA, and in that case, the Sharp Wizard, and Atari Portfolio.

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The Gridpad by two years though the Newton was a PDA and they didn't invent that either.

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said by cramer:

Refresh my memory... what predates the Newton?

I'm not saying anyone should get to patent the idea of a square. And there were plenty of SciFi references to "tablet" devices long before Jobs was out of diapers. (they were just props, 'tho)

How about this one ?



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Re: Prior Art?

Star Trek had something too.

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I think that's an IPad. It square and has rounded corners with a screen and buttons. I think you can touch the screen and it will respond; even with multi fingers... multitouch.

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LOL and when they run photos of both side by side

They can SAY whatever they want in print, but the photos of both devices will say everything...they "appear" identical and that is what lay consumers would get from such a disclosure.
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Re: LOL and when they run photos of both side by side

BOOKS look the same and even have similar art cover (just look at scifi books)... Does that mean that publishers should take each other to court?

Second of all the internal guts are definitely different over all even though some chips are shared because SAMSUNG made them.

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Of course Apple had to photoshop the Galaxy Tab to make it similar in size and dimensions to the iPad. That speaks volumes.
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if I go into a best buy, the flat screen TVs all look pretty much the same. I do not see Sony suing Panasonic over the exterior of the TV sets.
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Re: LOL and when they run photos of both side by side

That's because Sony didn't wait for Panasonic to design a set that was marketable and then copy the snot out of it including how the guide pages flipped. Samsung even copied the box's color scheme. Samsung is a 2nd run operation, a very valid and common marketing model and they're hugely successful doing it. There is nothing wrong with being a second run company. Virtually all companies are second run. It's low risk and you can fix mistakes made by the first runner. As soon as someone comes to market with a hit product, everyone copies it...close enough to have similar success, but different enough to not get sued. Samsung got a bit too similar and they're changing it a bit...more differentiation. Big deal. If you want a product identical to an iPad, buy an iPad...I think differentiation is good. I don't want every product to look and operate the same. I want to see innovation or changes from second run companies, gives us more options for features and design.

Look at the 4 door coupe concept. Mercedes CLS wasn't the first with this type of design, but once seen as a market and styling success, everyone rolled out their own version like the Audi A7, Porsche Panamera, and VW CC. Some would say those other models are even superior to the CLS. Where they would go afoul is if they copied the grill design, taillight design, wheel design...sure the profile is a bit different, but nearly all the details were identical, they'd be getting sued. But yeah, they all have steering wheels, they all have 4 tires, they all have a very generally similar profile but that is where the similarities end. Every detail is different in these automobiles giving customers choice, lots and lots of choice.

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LMAO

lol glad to see someone stand up to greedy company like Apple. HAHAHA

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So Apple invented thin tablets with rounded corners?

circa 1987


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Copycatting

Samsung phones prior to the iPhone looked largely like Blackberries or Microsoft Smartphones, after the iPhone came out, they began looking like iPhones.
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Re: Copycatting

said by NOCMan:

Samsung phones prior to the iPhone looked largely like Blackberries or Microsoft Smartphones, after the iPhone came out, they began looking like iPhones.

So boring! Apple also copycat!
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Hmmm...

It's called market evolution and Apple seems to be guilty of it in their history as well. Thank God nature doesn't behave like humans do:

"Zebras Sue Horses For Evolving 'Too Closely To Our Design'. Claims Immature Primate Females Now Buying Horse Dolls And Not So Many Zebra Dolls."

I have no idea if zebras really evolved first. Can't say that I car either.

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Galaxy Tab looks cooler

And there are plenty of differences when you see unaltered photos:

»www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···ew&h=488

»www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···ew&h=488

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Where are all of the Apple backers?

Interesting that when Apple wins one of these you see folks on both sides of the issue commenting. Looks like when Apple loses, most who support/back their product are nowhere to be found.
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Re: Where are all of the Apple backers?

They must be manufacturing/inventing/Photoshopping/ evidence to support there argument or channeling Steve for there marching orders