IPPlanManHoly Cable Modem Batman join:2000-09-20 Washington, DC |
First World Problem...This is such a first world problem...
Not sure why they made it auto-download though. Should have just said, it's free... come and get it. | |
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Re: First World Problem...testing testing testing. On my phone it just puts it in the library, you have to physically download it (I turn autosync off).
As to "biggest release" well if you foist your wares on your unsuspecting masses 60 million times, sure it's big. The only problem is that if this becomes a regular event there will be backlash, but the marketers always test. How may will listen, is this a new way to push advertising, how do I monetize, etc, etc.
The better programming gets the more intrusive advertisers get. I'm really sick of this crap, so I just turn it all off. Probably not what they intended, but the have gone TOO FAR. | |
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to IPPlanMan
As much as I like Apple, I don't want them pushing garbage to me through iTunes. | |
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to IPPlanMan
Call it a "First world problem" all you want, but having hardware vendors automatically placing unwanted promotional material into the media library you paid for on a device you own is unacceptable. I'm glad that Apple got slapped down by its customers for this behavior.
If there was no push back, then it would give Apple and Google the implied permission to do this more often. First its promo tracks, then its advertising automatically inserted into your play list when you are listening to music you own
Remember when VH1 was the first cable channel with a "bug" on the screen? Then eventually every channel did it. Then there was an arms race on who can put on the largest most obnoxious bug that will ruin your plasma TV. Then a few channels started putting promos on the bottom for other shows during programming. Then everyone started doing and then they added sound effects.
Think that apple and google wouldn't go down a similar path if they could get away with it? Think again. | |
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| | atuarreHere come the drums Premium Member join:2004-02-14 EC/SETX SWLA |
atuarre
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2014-Sep-16 1:24 pm
Re: First World Problem...Not hardware vendors, just Apple. | |
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| | mackey Premium Member join:2007-08-20
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to big_e
said by big_e:having hardware vendors automatically placing unwanted promotional material into the media library you paid for on a device you own is unacceptable. Having pre-installed apps that you can't remove? Meh, everyone does it. A few sample songs came with your new device? Sure, why not. More uninstallable apps with system updates? It happens. Add a free album to your music library? HOW DARE THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THOSE ADVERTISERS ARE GOING TO RUIN THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!! And I have no idea how you got from "here's a free album" to them inserting ads into your playlist. /M | |
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mj3431
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2014-Sep-16 5:35 pm
Re: First World Problem...said by mackey: Add a free album to your music library? HOW DARE THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THOSE ADVERTISERS ARE GOING TO RUIN THE ENTIRE EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing is free. Have you seen the pricing structure on the iPhones? 16GB for a base model is a joke. They should have taken the money paid out to U2 and spent it making a 32GB base iPhone. Just because you didn't outright pay for it doesn't mean it was free. Everyone paid via sacrifice in the technology on the new devices. | |
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One of the selling points of Apple's platform is that they won't put crapware or bloatware on their phone so all their users will get a clean "apple experience". One of the expectations of itunes and other apple products is that things like this won't happen.
Second, this U2 album promotion is already an advertisement. Apple did not do this out of the kindness of their heart. Apple paid 100 million dollars to U2 as part of a cross promotional deal. U2 will allow themselves to shill Apple products in exchange for the 100 million and both Apple and U2 get to brag that they distributed 500 million copies of the album.
Apple's customers wondering how the hell this U2 music got inserted into their playlist are going to look it up and see this tie in with the launch of the Iphone 6, and other new apple gadgets. Even the customers that already know about U2 promo deal will be reminded of it every time a track from that album is played. This is how advertising works. It is by pushing our subconscious buttons.
The ethical way of doing this promotion would be to offer it for a free on iTunes and click to download for those who actually want it. But nope, they deliberately chose to push this into everyone's account. If someone doesn't see the problem with a corporation inserting tracks into someone's paid media collection, then they already have been successfully brainwashed. Then the corporations will up the ante and become even more intrusive because corporations will leave no stone unturned in their pursuit of pushing their profits to infinite. Yes, in time this will include full blown ads between tracks, but they got to push their customers into accepting the inclusion of tie ins and payola first. | |
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chip89 Premium Member join:2012-07-05 Columbia Station, OH |
chip89
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2014-Sep-16 8:55 am
They could ofThey could of just given a choice of a free album but no... | |
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| ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
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2014-Sep-16 9:04 am
Re: They could ofThen they could not claim "the biggest album release in history". | |
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Re: They could ofExactly. | |
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to chip89
Yes, they could have given a choice... | |
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amungus Premium Member join:2004-11-26 America |
amungus
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2014-Sep-16 9:06 am
he IS the record» southpark.cc.com/clips/7 ··· -is-crap» en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_CrapSomehow, South Park was *ahead* of its time on this one. Glad I don't have an iphone/icloud. I can't imagine Steve Jobs being OK with this move. At this point, I'm surprised nobody has organized a campaign to mail Apple all manner of stupid shit. Piles of U2 (and whatever other) CDs would be a great start. I'd donate $1 to that. | |
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Re: he IS the recordJobs conceived of both the iPhone and the iCloud. He helped design the iPhone. Jobs would be against pushing stuff to the customers who didn't ask for it in the first place. | |
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| | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT
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ptrowski
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2014-Sep-16 9:51 am
Re: he IS the recordJobs was also against a larger iphone and look how well they preordered. | |
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What's the big deal?I looked at my phone and ipad this morning, my wife's phone and ipad, and my son's phone and ipad. Not a single one of them had downloaded the album. I did find that it was available as a cloud download.
I would hate to know my life was so mundane that this is what I would go online to bitch about. | |
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| spewakR.I.P Dadkins Premium Member join:2001-08-07 Elk Grove, CA
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spewak
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2014-Sep-16 10:03 am
Re: What's the big deal?I would hate to know my life was so mundane that this is what I would go online to bitch about.
Yet you did come online to let us know exactly how many iphones and ipads and isuch is going on in your exciting life. | |
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Re: What's the big deal?I take it you are one of the people bitching and you took offense to that comment so the strongest come back was that? | |
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Re: What's the big deal?said by battleop:I take it you are one of the people bitching and you took offense to that comment so the strongest come back was that? He has a point. You came here to bitch about people bitching over the unwanted download. That makes your life just as mundane as the people you are criticizing. | |
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Re: What's the big deal?I didn't immediately run to my nearest news outlet to complain. | |
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I don't use iTunesI have an iPod Touch 5th Generation and I use CopyTransManager to manage my music. No free unwanted songs, no having to "sync" (instead I can drag and drop the music I want).
You have to have iTunes installed for CopyTransManager to run just so it has the DLLs and all that stuff , but you don't have to run iTunes.
(also, protip: disable the Bonjour Windows Service that auto-runs and starts when you install iTunes, since you won't need that to use CopyTransManager) | |
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Doesn't actually delete it!According to Paul Thurrott: "In a bit of Microsoftiness, however, this removal process doesn't actually remove the U2 album. It simply hides it from your devices, though it really remains in your collection." » bit.ly/XwyaOB | |
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aaronwt Premium Member join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA
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aaronwt
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2014-Sep-16 2:11 pm
I guess I need to launch iTunes..I only do it once or twice a year. But if I can get a free digital album, from a group I like, then why not? | |
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IowaCowboyLost in the Supermarket Premium Member join:2010-10-16 Springfield, MA |
Thought my iTunes account had been hackedI got in my car today to go on an errand and I went to my purchased music list and I was like "holy s*it my iTunes had been hacked" as there were download icons for an album I didn't buy (I have iTunes Match so purchases automatically show up on my phone).
I found out by going to the iTunes Store that my prepaid balance was intact and it was a free album. I buy iTunes cards at Best Buy to pad my loyalty points there. | |
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Atleast they could haveasked!
Would you like the New U2 'Songs of Innocence' in:
1. your iTunes library 2. on vinyl 3. on cassette 4. on Edison cylinder | |
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| cramer Premium Member join:2007-04-10 Raleigh, NC |
cramer
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2014-Sep-16 4:16 pm
Re: Atleast they could haveWhere's the 8-track option? | |
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| clone (banned) join:2000-12-11 Portage, IN |
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5. the nearest landfill
This is the correct answer to where I want any music sung by the King of Self-Importance himself. | |
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shortcktWatchen Das Blinken Lights Premium Member join:2000-12-05 Tenant Hell |
shortckt
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2014-Sep-16 5:29 pm
The Real Problem...The real problem is that hardware and software makers across the electronics industry continue to treat OUR hardware as if it belongs to them, adding, changing and removing software and features at their whim. What was once mainly the playground of malware writers is now accepted as commonplace across all manner of electronic devices, and even some cars. A automatic update that changes or breaks things, a paid for program that installs unwanted junk. Yes of course you can (usually) turn it off, but why should one have to?
If your bank added 50 cents to your account without letting you know in advance, and that 50 cents was "stuck" in the account (e.g. you can't spend it or transfer it out of the account, you can only "enjoy" seeing it in your statement month after month), and you had to spend 15 minutes on the phone with your bank's customer service to have them take the 50 cents out of your account, would you be angry? | |
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BiggA Premium Member join:2005-11-23 Central CT |
BiggA
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2014-Sep-16 6:05 pm
Who caresIf you don't like it, don't listen to it. End of story. This is just stupid. | |
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