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| | elray
join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA Reviews:
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| Re: Eh...... said by chronoss2009:think rogers and bell canada and how ALL THESE GUYS WILL FAIL As I much as I detest Apple, they do have a knack, and a cult audience of consumers, to make the impossible possible. They do have the largess to get all the players to come to the table and offer up their content.
If Apple manages to get us an IP-based cable service with true ala carte channel subscriptions at an iTunes price point, with a low minimum monthly charge ($10-15), they could have a real cable-killer. | |
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| | AppleTV Would breathe some life into the AppleTV.
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| | | Re: AppleTV Rumors are they're not integrating it with AppleTV. | |
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| | | | Re: AppleTV said by Karl Bode:Rumors are they're not integrating it with AppleTV. BUt they might integrate it into iPhone... only on wifi of course.  | |
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join:2009-11-23 | Re: AppleTV Only in the US  | |
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| |  sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
join:2000-07-01
Morristown, NJ
·Optimum Online
| said by Karl Bode:Rumors are they're not integrating it with AppleTV. That would be monumentally stupid.
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| | CBS and media center So does this mean that CBS will be dropping their free offerings from Windows Media Center? I hope not. | |
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Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | And this is why cable/telcos cap HSI To defend themselves from VIDEO competition. It doesn't have anything to do with network management...never did. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: And this is why cable/telcos cap HSI said by Z80A:To defend themselves from VIDEO competition. It doesn't have anything to do with network management...never did. Of course. caps are all about deterring the cord cutters
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| |  BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: And this is why cable/telcos cap HSI said by dvd536:said by Z80A:To defend themselves from VIDEO competition. It doesn't have anything to do with network management...never did. Of course. caps are all about deterring the cord cutters But they don't state that is the reason. Which makes them liars. I'd have a little more respect for them if they just come out and admit "Hey we have caps so you don't watch so much video online that you drop cable"
So what if I drop cable am I not still subcribing to your internet service? Hell you are going to charge me $10 extra anyways for not bundling. Maybe I'll get tired of your attitude and subscribe to DSL and you can lose BOTH. Hmmm. If you have to FORCE people to keep your services maybe your services suck and maybe you should work and providing better services for your customers instead of trying to keep competition out. | |
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 badtripI heart the East BayPremium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | There better be no commercials If there are commercials, $30 a month (on top of ISP fees) is still too expensive. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: There better be no commercials Kinda like a $50 cable bill? | |
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| | BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Re: There better be no commercials said by openbox9:Kinda like a $50 cable bill? $50? Where can you get cable for $50? | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: There better be no commercials Sorry, I should have written pay TV instead of cable. I currently pay $47.56 for my Dish subscription. | |
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| | |  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX | I paid just under $50 for just cable with cox cable in Louisiana.
With internet the total was about $70 a month.
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| | badtripI heart the East BayPremium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | said by openbox9:Kinda like a $50 cable bill? I pay $0 for tv programming. I have a DB4 | |
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| | | openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: There better be no commercials I have a homemade 4-bay bow tie and will be dropping my Dish once my contract expires, so I will soon be paying $0.
My actual point is that if Apple prices their subscription service at ~$30, it will undercut most pay TV subscription services currently available....commercials included or not. | |
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| Z80APremium
join:2009-11-23 | Why? Cable and DBS have commercials. | |
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Jet101Jet101Premium
join:2009-10-01
Pflugerville, TX Reviews:
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1 edit | Great...More Choices! I'm getting out of the middle of the these retransmission squabbles ASAP. When my Dish contract is up, I'm going back to OTA for the locals, and will wait for more a la carte types of choices before signing up for ANY provider with monthly fees. Between Netflix, and Hulu, with more coming, I can usually catch most programs I'm interested in after a day or two anyway. This will leave more time for getting my fat arse back down to a pre 250 channel choice level. | |
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| | What is the Value? What we want: they carried all the channels I wante I could download all the shows I wanted in HD, SAVE THEM on my computer, and pay $30.00 for the privilege, then it would be worth it. Cancel my Cable TV subscription, and get what I want legally.
What we will get : A VERY limited selection of channels, SD transmissions (maybe some HD), no way to save them for later viewing/burning.
Result: Crash and Burn.
You can spend $600.00 and build a very nice large capacity HD Capable computer and record all the shows you want.
Hell, I've spent about $6000.00 over the last 5 years to do exactly that. And I have a 8TB collection of TV shows to show for it. I have about 1,700 seasons of TV shows saved. My cost Hardware : About $3,000.00. Cable TV Fees (5 years) : $3,000.00. If I were to BUY them on DVD, assuming $25.00 per season, I would be out about $42,000.00. So, I have SAVED about $37,000.00 over 5 years.
Change that to the Apple subscription I want, and the cost for the next 5 years drops to about $4000.00 (including hardware). That's a SAVINGS of about $38,000.00. Never going to happen. The networks are too greedy for them to ALLOW it to happen. So, I continue the way I've been doing it.
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| dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: What is the Value? said by karlmarx:What we want: they carried all the channels I wante I could download all the shows I wanted in HD, SAVE THEM on my computer, and pay $30.00 for the privilege, then it would be worth it. LOL! dream on!
only way you'll *ever* get that is going to the dark side[piracy]
you can bet it will be low bitrate crap infested with DRM!
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by karlmarx:What we want: they carried all the channels I wante I could download all the shows I wanted in HD, SAVE THEM on my computer, and pay $30.00 for the privilege, then it would be worth it. Cancel my Cable TV subscription, and get what I want legally. So you want everything on TV saved to your computer for $30? What dream world do you live in? Exactly how are they supposed to make money on that? One season of one show on DVD can be more than $30 you want ALL seasons of ALL shows for $30? People like YOU are the reason they offer so paltry offerings because you're never satisfied unless everything is free. | |
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| BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by karlmarx:What we want: they carried all the channels I wante I could download all the shows I wanted in HD, SAVE THEM on my computer, and pay $30.00 for the privilege, then it would be worth it. Cancel my Cable TV subscription, and get what I want legally. What we will get : A VERY limited selection of channels, SD transmissions (maybe some HD), no way to save them for later viewing/burning. Result: Crash and Burn. You can spend $600.00 and build a very nice large capacity HD Capable computer and record all the shows you want. Hell, I've spent about $6000.00 over the last 5 years to do exactly that. And I have a 8TB collection of TV shows to show for it. I have about 1,700 seasons of TV shows saved. My cost Hardware : About $3,000.00. Cable TV Fees (5 years) : $3,000.00. If I were to BUY them on DVD, assuming $25.00 per season, I would be out about $42,000.00. So, I have SAVED about $37,000.00 over 5 years. Change that to the Apple subscription I want, and the cost for the next 5 years drops to about $4000.00 (including hardware). That's a SAVINGS of about $38,000.00. Never going to happen. The networks are too greedy for them to ALLOW it to happen. So, I continue the way I've been doing it. Not sure where you get the "greedy" part. Maybe you should understand how things work. | |
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| | | | Re: What is the Value? Hell I used to do this on VCR tapes.
What makes it so greedy AND illegal now that it's on a computer or DVD or whatever medium.
For some reason they seem to feel we need to PAY again and again and again for something that USED to be totally legal and free (other than tape costs). Hell I have an attic FULL of old TV shows.
The world has gone to hell in a hand basket at the hands of the corporations!
I GIVE UP ALREADY! TAKE ALL MY MONEY! I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE CORPORATE RAPE! | |
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
kudos:2 | Re: What is the Value? You can still record content for your personal use Nothing has really changed except that VCRs are finally dead...mostly.said by NJOOLUser :
I GIVE UP ALREADY! TAKE ALL MY MONEY! I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THE CORPORATE RAPE! Nobody is forcing you into prison sex. If you don't like the product, save your money  | |
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|  jsz0Premium
join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT | If you have 1700 seasons of TV shows I would guess that's in the neighborhood of 30-40,000 episodes? Even if an IP provider could sell you the content for 25 cents an episode you're talking about $10k. I don't see any business model being compatible with what you're doing. A home brew solution is pretty much the only option in that case. | |
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WhatNowPremium
join:2009-05-06
Charlotte, NC | Who will pay for the transport system. Lets see for most people they get their internet from a cable or a phone company with a video division that helps pay for the pipes. You think the ISPs are going to keep the same internet prices if they lose a lot of their video subscribers. If you do not bundle then your internet fee may be much higher or there will be usage charges. There is not free lunch.
The only good I can see is it may stop the content providers like ESPN from holding the cable company subscribers hostage even if you never watch a channel. Closer to a la carte selection. | |
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| | PQ is still king The PQ isn't the best on most of these subscription services, so why would you pay "over the top" for it when it isn't as good as what's on cable? There really is a quality difference here unless they're going very high bit rate on the encoding. | |
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| | | Re: PQ is still king said by jjeffeory:The PQ isn't the best on most of these subscription services, so why would you pay "over the top" for it when it isn't as good as what's on cable? There really is a quality difference here unless they're going very high bit rate on the encoding. Convenience. | |
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| |  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: PQ is still king Oh Boy I am just going to run out to get this one. 
I hardly watch TV now. Most of what I watch comes from the UK, Top Gear, Time Team, etc. If for some reason the History Channels, and the Discovery group are dropped, it will never happen, but say it does. Dish Network goes away. What is interesting is so much of the programing on these channels comes from Channel4 and BBC 4 anyway.
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join:2003-10-12
Yaphank, NY | This type of service will be the end to unlimited broadband. This type of service will be the end to unlimited broadband. once the cable companies loose a major share they will cap the service. | |
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| cptmilesPremium
join:2004-04-22
Swayzee, IN | Re: This type of service will be the end to unlimited broadband. You are absolutely correct. I work for a small ISP in Indiana and all of us are waiting for the big boys to take the lead on the bandwidth caps. One of the quotes I heard at the last industry meeting is, "when a large percentage of subscribers start streaming video for the main media in the home, our IP efficiencies that allow us to oversubscribe our backbone will cease to exist." Boom! CAPS | |
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA | Re: This type of service will be the end to unlimited broadband. How about increasing prices to the point where the infrastructure could be upgraded to handle more bandwidth and customers? Caps should only be used as a temporary option to keep a network from completely failing. It should be an interim solution at best, and if the demand is there, price increases and advanced performance upgrades should be a high priority.
This is exactly what would happen in a real competitive market, but not with the oligopolies nearly all of us are forced to put up with now. | |
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| | | | | Re: This type of service will be the end to unlimited broadband. said by jmn1207:How about increasing prices to the point where the infrastructure could be upgraded to handle more bandwidth and customers? They don't need to raise prices. They already make enough money as it is. And with Peering they don't pay for a lot of the bandwidth already.
$55 a month buys a lot of bandwdith, way more then even most high end users will use in a month.
ISP's just need to stop being money grubbing whores, and spend a little money to upgrade their network. There is no real reason for caps on 99% of users. | |
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| | | said by frogli:This type of service will be the end to unlimited broadband. once the cable companies loose a major share they will cap the service. I don't think there are very many ISPs left that have "unlimited" broadband.
I think it's just Verizon FiOS and the telcos with DSL or FTTH. | |
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| | how much more to get ESPN? how much more to get ESPN?
HD?
Your RSN?
Other live sports channels?
That why some people have dbs / cable.
Is this a live feed or just the best of? | |
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r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX | Caps?? So you pay $30 a month to them to go over your comcast cap and then get banned from comcast for a year?
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| | | Re: Caps?? said by r81984:So you pay $30 a month to them to go over your comcast cap and then get banned from comcast for a year? get banned? Comcast likely may make it your choice $5/GB after the cap or have your speed cut down by a lot. | |
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| | r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX | Re: Caps?? Comcast will ban people for 1 year that go over the caps after being warned.
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| | Yeah... Yeah, I'm so stoked to subscribe to IPTV. Over my 6.6 mbps Internet connection. | |
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