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kudos:1 | iTV... How.....clever...and...unoriginal..... | |
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kudos:1 | Re: iTV... said by Uncle Paul:said by Cheese:How.....clever...and...unoriginal..... I'm sure it will be 'magical' too. Wonderfully magic! It's Apple after all!    | |
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| | |  FBGuyyippee ki yayPremium
join:2005-03-19 | Re: iTV... yep. if you don't use apple brand ethernet cables i bet it gets jittery too. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: iTV... said by FBGuy:yep. if you don't use apple brand ethernet cables i bet it gets jittery too. | |
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kudos:21 | What about iISP from Apple? | |
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1 | Wonderful, magical, and LICKABLE!
UGH, another "i" product.
Apple needs to replace iRedundant with something more iOriginal, it's getting really iOld.....
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| Re: iTV... said by N3OGH:Wonderful, magical, and LICKABLE!UGH, another "i" product. Apple needs to replace iRedundant with something more iOriginal, it's getting really iOld..... When did Apple start using "i" for it's products anyways? Only thing that comes to mind right now is imac.
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kudos:1 | Re: iTV... said by Subaru:said by N3OGH:Wonderful, magical, and LICKABLE!UGH, another "i" product. Apple needs to replace iRedundant with something more iOriginal, it's getting really iOld..... When did Apple start using "i" for it's products anyways? Only thing that comes to mind right now is imac. Perhaps when they released the imac? | |
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| Re: iTV... said by Cheese:said by Subaru:said by N3OGH:Wonderful, magical, and LICKABLE!UGH, another "i" product. Apple needs to replace iRedundant with something more iOriginal, it's getting really iOld..... When did Apple start using "i" for it's products anyways? Only thing that comes to mind right now is imac. Perhaps when they released the imac? I'm thinking the G3 imac.. that's as far back I can think of anything.
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: iTV... As always, wiki, so take with grain of salt.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac
The announcement of the iMac in 1998 was a source of discussion and anticipation among commentators, Mac fans, and detractors. Opinions were divided over Apple’s drastic changes to the Macintosh hardware.[2] At the time, Apple was trying to improve its retail strategy. Apple declared that "the back of our computer looks better than the front of anyone else’s".[3]
Apple declared the 'i' in iMac to stand for "Internet"; it also represented the product's focus as a personal device ('i' for "individual").[4] Attention was given to the out-of-box experience: the user needed to go through only two steps to set up and connect to the Internet. "There's no step 3!" was the catch-phrase in a popular iMac commercial narrated by actor Jeff Goldblum.[5] Another commercial, dubbed ”Simplicity Shootout”, pitted seven-year-old Johann Thomas and his border collie Brodie, with an iMac, against Adam Taggart, a Stanford University MBA student, with an HP Pavilion 8250, in a race to set up their computers. Johann and Brodie finished in 8 minutes and 15 seconds,[6] whereas Adam was still working on it by the end of the commercial. Apple later adopted the ‘i’ prefix across its consumer hardware and software lines, such as the iPod, iBook, iPhone, iPad and various pieces of software such as the iLife suite and iWork and the company's media player/store, iTunes. | |
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: iTV... said by Metatron2008:Bullcrap. They stole the i from intel (i286, i386). umm | |
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| |  spewakR.I.P DadkinsPremium
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| said by Uncle Paul:said by Cheese:How.....clever...and...unoriginal..... I'm sure it will be 'magical' too. Uncle Paul,
You forgot your Apple branding! Tsk, tsk, tsk!
It is iMagical. Or iMagic. In Apple's world it is always i before e!
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Feel the same way... not keen on the idea of dvd content getting upconverted to 720p thru itv then getting re-converted to 1080p by the tv/etc.
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| TheMGPremium
join:2007-09-04
Canada
kudos:1 | Does the capitalization matter? If not then I smell a trademark lawsuit approaching.
There's a British television network called "ITV" or "itv".
»www.itv.com/ | |
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
kudos:1 | Re: iTV... said by TheMG:Does the capitalization matter? If not then I smell a trademark lawsuit approaching. There's a British television network called "ITV" or "itv". » www.itv.com/ Oh damn! | |
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join:2009-11-23
2 edits | Why? iWasteofmoney Other similarly priced boxes access WAY more content and support 1080P over a crapload of codecs. 100 bucks? No thanks. I don't care how good the GUI is...it can't make up for these other huge shortcomings. | |
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|  KoolMoeAw ManPremium
join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
1 edit | Re: Why? iWasteofmoney What if it supported Flash?
720p seems shortsighted, but I imagine it's a way to keep costs down and evaluate interest. If good, 1080 support will be in the upgraded version, of course.
Personally, the lack of 1080 support doesn't bother me. As another said, most of my video isn't 1080 anyway. But the absolute tie to iTunes is what I don't like.
I have an Apple TV. When hacked with Boxee, when it could access Hulu, it was great! When Boxee dropped Hulu, and I never bothered with an iTunes server...and getting all my media converted to work with iTunes...the aTV has been unplugged for months...
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join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Why? iWasteofmoney And trying to get itunes installed on WHS is a nightmare!
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join:2005-12-17
New York, NY
kudos:1 | How will this fly in the UK? There's a major broadcaster in the UK by the name ITV...and there's really no way in hell they would license their name to Apple for this. I wonder what's gonna happen there... | |
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| | | Re: How will this fly in the UK? They will claim it's iTV and not ITV. Apple thinks that they own the lower case i. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: How will this fly in the UK? I'm pretty sure that only applies to iOS term.
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| | | | said by battleop:They will claim it's iTV and not ITV. Apple thinks that they own the lower case i. Good luck. Intel tried that already and failed. | |
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|  SabreDi relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari
join:2005-05-17 | Perhaps iSteve will just change the name of the device only in the UK, like Google did. (Gmail is Google Mail in the UK because the name was already owned there.) | |
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join:2001-03-05
H3B
kudos:1 | Re: Will the other ITV sue over the name? I certainly hope so. ITV in the UK has used that name since 1962. Having a Yank steal it for their own purposes would be intolerable.
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Apple itself is a study of precedent IN British courts vis a vis Apple the recording studio. They've successfully navigated the courts the first time claiming to be a computer company, and they successfully negotiated their way when they started selling music. | |
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join:2009-05-18
Decatur, GA
1 edit | Not Interested I personally don't need a Roku player, etc.. I have Uverse and Netflix, occasionally will watch shows on my phone on the plane..
Quite frankly, I'm missing it, just can't see how there is a huge market for this. Then again, I just learned what foursquare is.. maybe I'm just getting old and out of touch with technology... | |
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| | Tivo still reigns supreme At 720P whats the point? And tivo has had this market for a while, while iTV looks appealing I certainly wouldn't waste the money to go down to a lower resolution product. | |
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join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Google will kill iTV It looks like GoogleTV will be the one to buy. I'm guessing the iTV won't stream Netflix. Android was late to the party but is now starting to kill the iPhone. This time Google won't be late. Apple doesn't stand a chance. | |
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Beacon, NY
kudos:1 | Re: Google will kill iTV said by WeSRT4:It looks like GoogleTV will be the one to buy. I'm guessing the iTV won't stream Netflix. Android was late to the party but is now starting to kill the iPhone. This time Google won't be late. Apple doesn't stand a chance. There is a netflix app for the iPad, so I'm sure there ill be one for the iTV. | |
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join:2002-01-17
Bloomington, IN | Re: Google will kill iTV Coming soon from many manufacturers. Built into TVs, Bluray players and stand alone boxs | |
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join:2004-11-10
Coppell, TX | Agree with all comments... ... but you know they will still sell a million coz it's white and has a fruit on it.
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join:2000-12-28
Salt Lake City, UT | 720 Just to keep this in perspective, as far as I am aware Hulu, Hulu +, Amazon VoD and Netflix all max out at 720 for their HD streams -- and most of those are heavily compressed to significantly smaller bitrates than what you get on satellite or cable (and *much* less than Blu-ray, of course).
I suppose you can fault Apple for failing to innovate in this area, but they aren't exactly falling short of the competition, either. | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
join:2002-03-03
USA
kudos:4 | Re: 720 said by woodward:Just to keep this in perspective, as far as I am aware Hulu, Hulu +, Amazon VoD and Netflix all max out at 720 for their HD streams -- and most of those are heavily compressed to significantly smaller bitrates than what you get on satellite or cable (and *much* less than Blu-ray, of course). I suppose you can fault Apple for failing to innovate in this area, but they aren't exactly falling short of the competition, either. They are trying to get all those DSL customers whose broadband speeds can't support the higher bandwidth requirements of 1080P content.
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|  MikePremium,Mod
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| | LOL, iTV-3 is a website. iTV is taken already. lol. Poor Apple looks like UK isn't the only one using ITV.
»www.itv-3.com/index.php | |
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You're talking about a $99 device that could run apps like, I don't know...
Hulu
Netflix
ABC Player
etc...
If that is all it does, it already handily beats things like the Roku box.
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join:2004-10-18
Fort Wayne, IN | wait and see i'll wait to see before passing judgement | |
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| sam64
join:2006-07-31
Newtown, PA | Re: wait and see Me too! It is too early to pass jusgement.
While the users on this board like to be at the cutting (or maybe bleeding) edge, most average users just want something that works and works well.
If this thing is well designed, simple to use with a killer UI then it will be a winner otherwise it will be a dud. Time will tell. | |
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| | | | Re: wait and see Shhh! Pragmatic thinking and logic has no place here in the comments section of DSLReports. Please, get to the end of the line for Apple bashing, or get in the other line for an Apple lover's gang-bang. | |
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join:2006-07-31
Newtown, PA | Re: wait and see Thanks clickie....
I needed to be woken up from my stupour. Sometimes I forget that on this board you either hate it or love it. | |
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join:2005-03-10
Croton On Hudson, NY | iTV There's already an App called iTV | |
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join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | You know it will happen. Steve Jobs will claim he invented TV. | |
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join:2007-10-22
Bronx, NY | the apple cult will eat raccoon assholes on a stick if apple sells it at an refreshment stand inside a apple store. | |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | 720P Welcome to the year 2000.
doesn't surprise me as apple hardware is usually a generation or two behind everyone else.
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| Video card or Apple TV ? One has to look at the advantages of a video card on a Mac with proper cabing to an HDTV set, versus that Apple TV ( or whatever name Apple uses).
On a Mac, I can run VLC and watch any type of media, including some with surround sound. (Quicktime and itunes don't do surround sound, and Itunes won't let me watch HD content on a Mac with separate screen, but VLC has no problem with it).
On that Apple TV thing, I can only watch a limited number of file formats, it probably doesn't support .mkv since neither itunes nor quicktime support it. And I won't be able to watch 1080p content.
Not sure if the Apple TV will support surround sound. The stuff downloaded from Itunes in SD does not have surround sound, just plain old stereo (so is plainly inferior to DVD quality). | |
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| Re: Video card or Apple TV ? DVI outpt from a mac doesn't support hdcp, or so I am told. So an DVI to HDMI cable wont magically enable the mac to play those itunes movies with that silly hdcp drm.
This is why the piratebay exists. You buy the movie from itunes, but download a DRM-free version from the prirate bay. You can then play it on any hardware. And since you've paid for the right to watch that movie, you don't feel guilty about downloading it from TPB 
The only advantage of that Apple TV was to circumvent that silly restriction since it has an HDMI port and lets you outpit HD content. But if the new version doesn't really do HD, what's the point of it ? | |
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