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1 edit | The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key The iPhones' success didn't just lie on its own. AT&T heavy subsidy on these gadget is what made it so popular.
Who in their right mind would get any other phone when a phone as versatile and capable as the iPhone can be had for a mere $99?
No one cares how big verizons 3G map is, except for verizon users.
Most iPhone users are contempt that they are using a cool phone that has over 140k apps.
Ask any iPod touch owners, do they miss the phone or 3g functionality? | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by ThirdShifter:The iPhones' success didn't just lie on its own. AT&T heavy subsidy on these gadget is what made it so popular. Who in their right mind would get any other phone when a phone as versatile and capable as the iPhone can be had for a mere $99? No one cares how big verizons 3G map is, except for verizon users. Most iPhone users are contempt that they are using a cool phone that has over 140k apps. Ask any iPod touch owners, do they miss the phone or 3g functionality? Well if you want to actually use the 3G features of this product then it DOES matter. There is not any at&t 3g within 50 miles of me so WHY should I buy an ipad with 3G capability? | |
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 |  |  openbox9 join:2004-01-26 Alexandria, VA kudos:2 | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key At least with the iPad, you have the flexibility to purchase without the 3G option. | |
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| said by BF69:said by ThirdShifter:The iPhones' success didn't just lie on its own. AT&T heavy subsidy on these gadget is what made it so popular. Who in their right mind would get any other phone when a phone as versatile and capable as the iPhone can be had for a mere $99? No one cares how big verizons 3G map is, except for verizon users. Most iPhone users are contempt that they are using a cool phone that has over 140k apps. Ask any iPod touch owners, do they miss the phone or 3g functionality? Well if you want to actually use the 3G features of this product then it DOES matter. There is not any at&t 3g within 50 miles of me so WHY should I buy an ipad with 3G capability? Is that a question or a limerick? | |
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| said by BF69:Well if you want to actually use the 3G features of this product then it DOES matter. There is not any at&t 3g within 50 miles of me so WHY should I buy an ipad with 3G capability? Do you really expect at&t to bring 3g to a town with a population of 3600 people? | |
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shouldnt be that hard to wire up. i bet the backhaul is already in place, they are just to lazy to do it. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key My understanding is that the jump from 1RXTT didn't require completely new equipment, but the jump to HSPA did. The CDMA carriers moving to 4g may have a similar hurdle. I've heard that the jump from HSPA to LTE is much simpler than from EVDO to LTE or WiMax.
What Verizon and Sprint should do is get a bluetooth tethering app approved for the iPad store and charge the same $30 to tether the iPad. The Bluetooth stack on the iPad sounds like it will be open. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by stufried:My understanding is that the jump from 1RXTT didn't require completely new equipment, but the jump to HSPA did. The CDMA carriers moving to 4g may have a similar hurdle. I've heard that the jump from HSPA to LTE is much simpler than from EVDO to LTE or WiMax. What Verizon and Sprint should do is get a bluetooth tethering app approved for the iPad store and charge the same $30 to tether the iPad. The Bluetooth stack on the iPad sounds like it will be open. isnt lte 4g? | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by majortom1029:said by stufried:My understanding is that the jump from 1RXTT didn't require completely new equipment, but the jump to HSPA did. The CDMA carriers moving to 4g may have a similar hurdle. I've heard that the jump from HSPA to LTE is much simpler than from EVDO to LTE or WiMax. What Verizon and Sprint should do is get a bluetooth tethering app approved for the iPad store and charge the same $30 to tether the iPad. The Bluetooth stack on the iPad sounds like it will be open. isnt lte 4g? No. LTE is still 3G. 4G requires a spec that reaches 100mbit/s mobile. LTE evolution fits that requirement. | |
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| said by Cod:said by BF69:Well if you want to actually use the 3G features of this product then it DOES matter. There is not any at&t 3g within 50 miles of me so WHY should I buy an ipad with 3G capability? Do you really expect at&t to bring 3g to a town with a population of 3600 people? Do you really expect everybody in the united states to all live in the cities? Everybody keeps saying, move out of the sticks. Move where? The Cities? Bullshit excuse, people live where people live. They can get off their billions of dollars & put up some towers. Tired of the lame ass excuses!!!! -- I'll keep my God, my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep "THE CHANGE." | |
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no 3G any where near here. and as soon as my contracts up, im gone, and thats why. | |
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 |  2 edits | I didn't expect Apple to announce they're letting loose AT&T at the same time they're announcing a brand new product. Such news would upstage their own product announcement.
That said, I still don't expect Apple to break ties with AT&T soon. As they've mentioned, they've been good business partners. Business agreements just don't go away overnight. There's also the issue of Apple signing new agreements with other providers. Maybe Verizon is asking too much to sign on with them. If that's the case, they might as well just stick with AT&T.
Almost daily I hear and read stories from crybabies about how horrible AT&T is. If it's so horrible, why haven't they switched to another provider? Nobody is holding a gun to their head forcing them to live in cellphone misery. If it's just the iPhone why they're staying, there are plenty of other great phones with great features that work on other networks. You can even get an iPhone to work elsewhere with some effort.
I've used all the major cellphone networks (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint). None are perfect. People should get a life and stop complaining. | |
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 |  |  Vamp9190Premium join:2002-02-11 Chantilly, VA kudos:1 | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by burgerwars:I've used all the major cellphone networks (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint). None are perfect. People should get a life and stop complaining. +1
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 |  |  | | People are complaining because we believe that we should have the right to choose our wireless provider and our phones as two separate choices, just like the rest of the world. No one will complain about peas and beef by themselves, but as soon as you force it so that you can only have beef with peas, then the complaints start. | |
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 |  |  |  RARPSL join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by hosermage:People are complaining because we believe that we should have the right to choose our wireless provider and our phones as two separate choices, just like the rest of the world. No one will complain about peas and beef by themselves, but as soon as you force it so that you can only have beef with peas, then the complaints start. Shades of the SPAM routine by Monty Python. | |
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 |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | said by hosermage:People are complaining because we believe that we should have the right to choose our wireless provider and our phones as two separate choices, just like the rest of the world. You are aware that nobody is stopping you from doing that now, right? You can walk right into almost any cell phone store and purchase an unlocked phone, so I am not sure what problem you are having. If walking to the store is too problematic for you, hit up this small, unknown website called www.amazon.com and buy an unlocked device from them..... --
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 |  |  |  |  Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by wifi4milez:You are aware that nobody is stopping you from doing that now, right? You can walk right into almost any cell phone store and purchase an unlocked phone, so I am not sure what problem you are having. You do realize that since the CDMA phones in the U.S. don't use SIM cards that unlocked CDMA phones may not work in the U.S. This may change once there are CDMA/LTE phones with USIM cards. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by Sammer:said by wifi4milez:You are aware that nobody is stopping you from doing that now, right? You can walk right into almost any cell phone store and purchase an unlocked phone, so I am not sure what problem you are having. You do realize that since the CDMA phones in the U.S. don't use SIM cards that unlocked CDMA phones may not work in the U.S. This may change once there are CDMA/LTE phones with USIM cards. This discussion is about GSM devices, CDMA has nothing to do with what we are talking about at the moment. --
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by wifi4milez:This discussion is about GSM devices, CDMA has nothing to do with what we are talking about at the moment. I thought it was about Apple choosing AT&T as the exclusive iPad and iPhone provider in the U.S. Considering that T-Mobile is the only other national cell phone company besides AT&T to use use GSM not talking about CDMA really limits the discussion. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | No. no, no... You don't understand. They want to choose an "iPhone" with Verizon. They want an "iPhone" with Sprint. They want an "iPhone" with T-Mobile. Consumers want the ability to buy an "iPhone" with US Celluar. Consumers want the choice to buy an "iPhone" with MetroPCS. Consumers want the choice to buy an "iPhone" with THEIR choice of cellphone provider. What you are proposing is decidedly different. You are proposing that a consumer can buy "several" different phones to use on "several" different providers.
You know, sorta "many to many". The customer wants a "1 to many" sorta thing which is rather more specific.
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 |  |  |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by jjeffeory:Consumers want the choice to buy an "iPhone" with THEIR choice of cellphone provider. We live in a country with two different wireless standards. As such, consumers demanding all phones be dual mode is absurd. There isnt outrage that people cant buy cars that run on diesel AND regular gasoline, and this is no different. People can use unlocked GSM phones on any network in the world, that is a pretty good option for those who dont want to be locked in to one carrier. --
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  toddbs98 join:2000-07-08 North Little Rock, AR | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key Thank you Mr. Wireless lobbyist. Got to love answers like if you don't like things the way they are in America leave it. This attitude of whatever is good for business is good for America is whats got us in the economic situation we are in now. -- Patriots always speak of dying for their country never killing for it. Bertrand Russell
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  DeathKPremium join:2002-06-16 Cincinnati, OH 1 edit | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by wifi4milez:said by toddbs98:Thank you Mr. Wireless lobbyist. Got to love answers like if you don't like things the way they are in America leave it. This attitude of whatever is good for business is good for America is whats got us in the economic situation we are in now. Huh?? Was that directed at me? What do you think slick?  | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  HappyBunnyHi. Cram It.Premium join:2001-06-23 Long Beach, CA kudos:1 | Well, I am using an iPhone with T-Mobile. It is not THAT hard to do. But some people apparently prefer to stay with AT&T and b*tch about it. | |
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| Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by HappyBunny:Well, I am using an iPhone with T-Mobile. It is not THAT hard to do. But some people apparently prefer to stay with AT&T and b*tch about it. It is with newer 3GS phones. That is unless you like having to plug your phone into your PC every time you restart it. --
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by wifi4milez:said by hosermage:People are complaining because we believe that we should have the right to choose our wireless provider and our phones as two separate choices, just like the rest of the world. You are aware that nobody is stopping you from doing that now, right? You can walk right into almost any cell phone store and purchase an unlocked phone, so I am not sure what problem you are having. If walking to the store is too problematic for you, hit up this small, unknown website called www.amazon.com and buy an unlocked device from them..... Even if you bring your own phone you are still forced to pay the same monthly rate as people who sign a 2 year contract and receive a loan.
As a result most people are currently on 2 year contracts and switching providers is not easy. Since the wireless carriers all have different voice or 3G standards, the exact same monthly rates, and are essentially collusive, there`s little incentive to switch.
You know this already, as people have reminded you of this over and over. But you keep repeating the same lies. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by sonicmerlin:Even if you bring your own phone you are still forced to pay the same monthly rate as people who sign a 2 year contract and receive a loan. 1) Incorrect. Tmobile has different rate plans depending on if you buy the phone or get it subsidized. 2) Even if that wasnt the case, it has nothing to do with the original argument.
The OP stated that buying a phone and choosing a provider were one and the same. I pointed out (as I have done to you on many occasions) that unlocked phones are available in thousands of retail stores, as well as on Amazon. Many people (somehow) truly dont know they can buy unlocked phones. The OP probably fell off his chair when he read my post, and you know that. You are deliberately trying to insert your agenda into a discussion about the availability of unlocked phones.
If you wish to debate the merits of differing rate plans that is fine, but at least start a dedicated thread instead of trying to hijack this one. --
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They tripled their profits from 2005 2008, from 4 to $12 billion. You think it`s coincidental their network has lagged behind? | |
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 |  |  |  56403739Less than 5 months leftPremium join:2006-03-08 Naples, FL kudos:2 | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by sonicmerlin:Maybe you should get a life and stop complaining about people upset over their lifestyles being ruined by simple greed on the part of AT&T. Lifestyles being ruined? Are you serious? If your "lifestyle" can be ruined by a cellphone you have far bigger issues than being stuck on AT&T. Get a life, indeed.
Incredible. So many spoiled whining babies in this comment thread. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key said by sonicmerlin:Maybe you should get a life and stop complaining about people upset over their lifestyles being ruined by simple greed on the part of AT&T. Just, wow. That's the worst whine I've seen all week and I have a six year old and a four year old. I think my six year old complained his lifestyle was being ruined when he couldn't find his DS cord... | |
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 |  | | said by ThirdShifter:The iPhones' success didn't just lie on its own. AT&T heavy subsidy on these gadget is what made it so popular. Who in their right mind would get any other phone when a phone as versatile and capable as the iPhone can be had for a mere $99? No one cares how big verizons 3G map is, except for verizon users. Most iPhone users are contempt that they are using a cool phone that has over 140k apps. Ask any iPod touch owners, do they miss the phone or 3g functionality? /sarcasm I think we can also agree that most iPhone users like the single application user multi-tasking. Don't you just love how if you get an IM while browsing you have to close the browser, because I certainly do that on my computer. And Apple telling them what they can install and how they can use the iPhone, that is just great for Apple to do that. /end sarcasm
I really think that the iPhone was designed for Verizon. Considering that you can't do voice and data (multi-tasking anyone?) at the same time on CDMA, I really think that Apple had the mindset or even agreement talks to put the iPhone on Verizon's network.
I compared the WM platform to a psycho ex girlfriend, and an iPhone user agreed the same thing. The platforms are like a psycho ex girlfriend, there are so many things wrong with her but you just can't stop loving her. | |
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| Re: The Popularity & affordability of Iphone is key Actually the browser is one of the few apps on the iPhone (along with mail, ipod and phone) that actually does run in the background so your example is incorrect.
Still the point is well made. Supposed the 4.0 software will have some form of multi-tasking in it. Though I expect it won't be true multi-tasking (maybe dual-tasking). --
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 |  DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | said by ThirdShifter:Ask any iPod touch owners, do they miss the phone or 3g functionality? Nope. I would like some GPS though XD | |
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I ditched the iPhone (3G) for the Droid, for two reasons: 1. - 3g service was spotty, at best with ATT 2. - When I moved, ATT was no longer an option since there was no ATT service near my new home.
So, yes, people DO care about coverage. There are also reasonable alternatives to the iPhone on other carriers.
If I was content on apps only, I would have purchased a touch, but I want a device for games, music and phone.
As for iPod touch owners, the ones that I know are fine having a normal cell and a touch. | |
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For example look at iTunes/iPods as apple refuses to support an open audio codec like flac. -- »www.crucialcolin.com/ | »www.pcgeektech.com | |
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 Mr Matt join:2008-01-29 Eustis, FL kudos:1 | Apple must think AT&T is spiffy.
Well what I mean is that AT&T is probably giving Apple a good stiff spiff for exclusivity. Listen to the cash register ring. | |
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 |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | said by Mr Matt:  Well what I mean is that AT&T is probably giving Apple a good stiff spiff for exclusivity. Listen to the cash register ring. That is what it all comes down to. I would love to know what AT&T has forked over to Apple for this deal on the iPad. I do know that Apple stock will go up and AT&T stock will go down due to deals like this. Especially as AT&T's network continues to struggle under the load of even more heavy data users.
Also, many people may not know this but all the Kindles sold over Christmas(and it was in the millions) all now use the AT&T network for access. AT&T replaced Sprint as the network of choice when Amazon upgraded the Kindles mid last year. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page
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AT&T also seems to be giving the pricing and terms that Apple wants. I really can't imagine Verizon agreeing to the pay-as-you-go pricing Apple got from AT&T with the iPad 3G plans.
Lastly, Apple would have to manufacture a CDMA iPad for ONLY the US, and then a GSM version for Europe. (Or make it a "world" device...) That's added cost Apple couldn't afford with the iPad - it's one of the cheapest devices they've ever released. | |
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| Re: Makes sense to me... said by MRCUR:The vast majority (or so it seems) of iPhone users are either perfectly happy with AT&T's network, or like the iPhone enough to not care about the network issues. Highlighted the key words.
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| I'm not an analyst... I'm not an analyst, so maybe that's why I'm not baffled.
1. Apple and AT&T already have logistics and distribution in place, so they just add a few new SKUs to the back end system and the Pad is ready to launch.
2. Apple's business model is to come out with an incrementally improved model each year, knowing that (a) their rabid fans will grouse about it but still be willing to re-purchase the latest/greatest functionality and (b) the sane among us will wait until they hit the sweet spot in terms of features & function.
In light of #2, there's no reason to assume that spring of 2011 won't bring another announcement of Pad Mark II with LTE support or whatever else is out there, and a portion of Apple's customer base will re-purchase the hardware they need for bragging rights. | |
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 fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Simple solution... and cheaper... ... buy the WiFi version of the iPad WITHOUT the 3G and save the money...
Go to your Favorite cellular carrier and buy a MiFi card - that would be either Sprint and Verizon for now... go with what ever data plan you choose and you have 3G coverage where ever you need it..
With the MiFi connections available, why bother embedding a 3G antenna in any device that also comes attached with a monthly fee, PER UNIT...? ... seems silly to me anyway. | |
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 |  | | Re: what? said by patcat88:How is EVDO more expensive than HSPA? Both are CDMA IP by Qualcomm. Exactly.
Sometimes I wonder if sometimes analysts write things and count on people not actually stopping and taking the time to think as they read it. | |
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 |  |  en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: what? Analysts are tied to Wall Street, and typically do not get into the details. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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 | | Of course Apple could have... Apple could have just made that part an add-in card which would have likely been cheaper anyway....
That way they could have had the base, wifi only, unit. Then people could have simply purchased their choice of add-in card at a later time for the appropriate $150 or $200...
Of course there would likely have been a "line" on the ipad which would completely ruin the aesthetics of the design naturally... | |
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 en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Apple chosing AT&T because.... 1. They don't have any real hardware (chipset/radio/technology) to change 2. GSM/UMTS on a global scale is 10:1 vs CDMA (and growing) 3. Device is still selling hot (not too hot to kill its value, ala Motorola RAZR)
I personally thought that if (when?) Apple builds a new device that they would have opened it up to other technologies. Instead, its more of 'bring your own' (WiFi) if you don't want AT&T. | |
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 |  huntml join:2002-01-23 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Complicated. said by FastiBook:Too complicated & potentially problematic to have 2 carriers on 2 different technologies mixed in with billing for data service. - A If this were true, netbook vendors wouldn't offer a choice of 3g service, and some do. | |
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 |  |  |  huntml join:2002-01-23 Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Complicated. I dunno, but I don't see the relevance. My point was that if e.g. Acer sell some of its netbooks in partnership with VZW, some of its netbooks in partnership with ATTM and some directly to the consumer with no provider tie-in, then I don't see why Apple couldn't do the same.
Maybe I'm missing your point. What would be some complicated and problematic? | |
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