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Apple's Really Awful iOS 6 Maps Ruins iPhone 5 Party
Company Promises Heavily Criticized Maps Will Get Better
by Karl Bode Friday 21-Sep-2012 tags: competition · business · wireless · bandwidth · Oddities · consumers · wireless · Apple
Though a parade of gushing, uncritical reviews have proclaimed the iPhone 5 a device created by gods that was perfectly hewn from the metal of the ancients, back on planet earth all is not well within the church of Apple. While some have noticed that the device is easily scratched, the biggest issue this week was that Apple's mapping software may be currently be the worst in the business. With iOS6 Apple decided to ditch Google maps entirely, instead relying on TomTom for help on their own mapping software.

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As this Tumblr created for the spectacular fail attests, the result has bordered on high comedy, with the software insisting gas stations exist on top of skyscrapers, in addition to distorting or otherwise misplacing numerous locations, towns and cities entirely. TomTom tells The New York Times they "stand by the quality of our maps," with Apple issuing a statement promising things will get better:

"We launched this new map service knowing that it is a major initiative and we are just getting started with it. We are continuously improving it, and as Maps is a cloud-based solution, the more people use it, the better it will get...We're also working with developers to integrate some of the amazing transit apps in the App Store into iOS Maps. We appreciate all of the customer feedback and are working hard to make the customer experience even better."

Nokia of course took the opportunity to proclaim map superiority, while all of the Android fanboys and Galaxy S3 owners enjoyed a good giggle. Services have long-been Apple's weak spot (oh hi, Ping), and it's easy to wonder if Steve Jobs would have ever let iOS 6 out the door with a map service that thinks Brooklyn is in Manhattan.

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ropeguru
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Typical Apple Mentality

We are going to yank something that currently works great, because they are a competitor, and force you to use this piece of crap that is nowhere near ready. But we PROMISE it will work one day! Maybe!
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

Hey at least they did not say people are holding the phones wrong.
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said by ropeguru:

We are going to yank something that currently works great, because they are a competitor, and force you to use this piece of crap that is nowhere near ready. But we PROMISE it will work one day! Maybe!

I disagree, I don't think this is Apple mentality. If Steve was alive today, this crap wouldn't have happened.
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

well Steve is dead, so this IS the new Apple mentality.
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Rob
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

said by inteller:

well Steve is dead, so this IS the new Apple mentality.

But it's not the "typical" Apple mentality.

faughro

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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

I think what is being said is this may be the new apple mentality and will become typical since Steve is now gone.

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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

typical as you know it is dead.
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said by Rob:

I disagree, I don't think this is Apple mentality. If Steve was alive today, this crap wouldn't have happened.

Every single part of his cremated body is spinning wherever it lays now from this fiasco.

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I agree, this disaster of a OS wouldn't have seen the light of day if Jobs was still alive. Now I have to go through loops to get back my iOS 5 back. That, or just go back to using a BB.
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

said by J E F F:

I agree, this disaster of a OS wouldn't have seen the light of day if Jobs was still alive. Now I have to go through loops to get back my iOS 5 back. That, or just go back to using a BB.

This isn't the first time there has been a botched iOS release. There was one in the pre-3G days when the things were only sold in the US and a few European countries that bricked god knows how many phones that were a scourge to deal with on the support end. People just never hear about any of it or quickly forget about it because Apple runs a very efficient propaganda machine.

All things considered, if Maps is the only thing that sucks they could have done a lot worse.
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

The bricking was due to people using an old version of the AnySIM unlock. I know...I sold a competitor that didn't brick when people upgraded their phones. Phones were unbricked later, and a new version of AnySIM came out that didn't brick things when upgrades were made.

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said by iansltx:

The bricking was due to people using an old version of the AnySIM unlock. I know...I sold a competitor that didn't brick when people upgraded their phones. Phones were unbricked later, and a new version of AnySIM came out that didn't brick things when upgrades were made.

Right. The problem was with how Apple handled it. I had heard more screaming customers during that one week than I had not only before, but after as well.
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In that case, Apple most likely didn't try the upgrade on a jailbroken and unlocked iPhone. It's arguable whether they should be testing that. They probably do these days in order to save face, since people will still blame them even if a bricking error is due to the phone being jailbroken.

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said by yabos:

In that case, Apple most likely didn't try the upgrade on a jailbroken and unlocked iPhone. It's arguable whether they should be testing that. They probably do these days in order to save face, since people will still blame them even if a bricking error is due to the phone being jailbroken.

The biggest issue we ran into were IMEI numbers that were being erased with that updated, and we had customers swear up and down that they didn't modify their phone even though the talking point we had to stick to was that the phone has been modified, warranty is now void and you're only option is to buy a brand new iPhone as we wouldn't even do a discounted $250 repair. It was a messy situation, and the guys in Cupertino really threw all of us in Niagara Falls, Sacramento and Austin under the bus over it.

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Just not maps, but Youtube too. Other issues but I am thinking it is just server farms and can happen to anyone. But overall, not impressed. Not sure why they would recommend this to anyone who doesn't have at least the iPhone 5 or better (sic).
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said by Rob:

I disagree, I don't think this is Apple mentality. If Steve was alive today, this crap wouldn't have happened.

Having done Apple Tier 2 support and working with the engineers when the iPhone was originally released, I can say that it is absolutely Apple mentality.

AMDS issues on Windows that Apple blamed on everyone but themselves until one day the issues were magically fixed by an iTunes update still give me nightmares.

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It's all just a feature. Nobody really wants to go to Brooklyn.
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

bigboy

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Or the competitor is not letting you do what you want. Apparently Google wouldn't let them do turn-by-turn using their maps.
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

Sure about that?

I thought that was a limitation Apple placed on GMaps awhile back.
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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

It's always been an Apple app. It was a license decision by Google. You can suspect they were trying to cripple iOS to benefit Android, but you never know.

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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

Orrrrrrrrr, they got sick of Apples bullshit and pulled the license?

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They could have went with Nokia/Navteq

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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

said by odreian615:

They could have went with Nokia/Navteq

If Nokia has Navteq, it's probably exclusive and Apple wouldn't have been able to.

For what it's worth, Navteq is by far and away a better option. Apple got second fiddle on this one.
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Not FORCED, just ignore the icon. There is an app for that. GPSdrive. I love it.

But I don't like the Apple mentality nonetheless-- that is the behavior of a monopolist, and Apple has always been that way, so is that surprising? - since day 1.

Did you not get the memo in the 80's?

You buy an Apple product, you don't make the decisions Apple does.

I personally love the IDEA of my Nexus 7 better than my Ipad, but guess what that Nexus 7 has some nasty bugs and google wallet, chrome, videos don't work, and a bunch of other yet to be names things is killing off my battery. So I put my Nexus to the side, and use my Ipad. If I look at my mothball of hardware, it's all failed Android technology. Even my original ipad gets daily usage from the kids. I do let my son take his china pad to school, because if it get's lost then there is one less piece of failed Android technology to worry about.

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Re: Typical Apple Mentality

His "china" pad? The same place your ipad is made...so it must be a "china pad" as well eh?

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"Hey, I just got you, and this is crazy. But here's our map app, it works. maybe!


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iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

I cannot get some of the apps (like passbook) to work and it is very unstable on my Verizon iPhone 4.

I plan on buying the iPhone 5 but I have to wait for November 30th to roll around as that is my upgrade eligibility date.
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Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

might as well get the vastly superior Lumia 920 at that point.
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Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

if you like waiting for DLLs to load.

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Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

nice try bub...i've compared the loading times of an iOS6 maps load with nokia maps and the difference is negligible.
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Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

The Lumia 920 is cute.
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I thought it doesn't come out to Nov in the US?

It boils down to which flavor you want.

Apple -> It works, it's expensive, you are in the AAPL box and must breath a lot of marketing bs and believe it to justify your purchase.
Android -> It sometimes works, it's cheaper, you are in no box. Good luck getting an update.
Win -> Well sorry Win7 users, no Win 8. Oh sorry Win 8 users, no Win 9. Do you have an app for that? Do you like the carnival metro interface? Im in, I'm out, Zune in, Zune out. Zune in.

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Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

Not my experience.. I switched from iphone 4s to galaxy note.. love it since almost an year.. And I paid more than what I paid for iphone.. Android is way better now.. Not talking about the low end devices..

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Haven't seen one in the flesh but photos look cool and WP8 looks good too.

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Tap Settings>General>Date and Time>Set Automatically>Off. Set the date to one year ahead (like 2013) and try again.

Notes:

Passbook is not available for iPad
Passbook app requires Passbook-enabled apps
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Re: iOS 6 has some kinks to work out

Passbook does NOT require another App, it works with emails and other means of delivery system. It's a matter of vendor participation.
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dont work.

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Main Issue

The main issue here is that Apple, under Jobs, never let unfinished stuff out the door.

Yes, they may have released some iOS versions that omitted functionality in the beginning (e.g., cut and paste), but when they did something, they made sure it was 100% complete, polished, and simple easy to use.

This iOS 5 Google Maps to iOS6 Apple Maps is arguably the first time an Apple product has actually moved backwards.

Steve Jobs would not be happy.
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koitsu
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Ship it!!!

It seems to me that Apple simply shipped this crap w/out doing actual testing in each demographic/region. For some regions -- like Japan -- maps (transit, tram, et.c) are incredibly important, much moreso than here in the US. To give folks some idea how absolutely broken this is for the Japanese:

»www.japanmobiletech.com/2012/09/···pan.html

If you don't have any familiarity with Japanese culture and Japanese lifestyle/environment/demographics then the above article will read to you as nothing more than "map accuracy problems". Sadly it's a lot more than that. For example, how Narita is entirely gone (Narita is the main international airport in Japan; you have to fly in there to arrive from overseas), and how in that one region there's Chinese and Korean both shown alongside Japanese (maybe Apple designed that part for people like me, who can read Chinese and Korean but Japanese not so well. Korean reads Jidori, whatever that is...).

Stuff like this really chaps my ass. I might live in North America but lots of my colleagues, friends, etc. live overseas (some of which used to live near me but have since relocated). So it upsets me almost as much as it does them.
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Re: Ship it!!!

iPhone isn't too popular in .jp and this isn't going to help matters.

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Re: Ship it!!!

iPhone is popular in Japan, and the previous maps was fantastic for me.
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yawn

Yet ANOTHER Apple hate fest. Maybe we should just create a forum devoted solely to bashing all things Apple?

I've been using iOS 6 for a week now, and it is not bad at all. It certainly isn't a drastic change, and it probably doesn't deserve to be called version 6 (5.5 maybe?).

As for the maps, it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. It really isn't. And it will all get fixed.

That said, I agree that Google Maps is better. The iOS version just didn't have turn-by-turn, which is a very useful function that really should be included on every smart phone. I actually have been using the Garmin app ($40) on my iPhone, and it works very well. In fact, it works better than either Google or Apple because it doesn't require data. All the map data is stored on the device, so it is fast, works in the boonies, and doesn't use as much power.

It's only because Apple has such a loyal base, and is so successful, that people feel like they need to bash them at every chance they get. Just look at the names in this thread and then the names in the dozen other Apple threads in the past week. It's the same damned people who feel the need to remind us how crappy Apple, iPhones, and iOS 6 are.

That said, I like my iPhone 5 so far. It's not a whole new experience, and it might be a long time before the next big thing comes out. Android has improved at a faster rate than iOS 6 has, that's for sure. Then again, it NEEDED to improve because prior to 4.0, it was a buggy, clunky mess. I wouldn't expect any drastic improvements from Google or Apple in the near future. I'm sure their cloud services will be a major focus for improvement.
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Re: yawn

I own an iPhone 4S. I relied on the maps app heavily. It is currently entirely useless to me. That's pretty bad.

It won't do transit, and despite having spent the time to try a few others, I haven't found one yet that works well enough as a replacement (TheTransitApp is a confusing and counter-intuitive mess). Some of what are probably the better ones cost money, requiring me to pay for them just to see if they're any good. On top of all that, losing street view makes it much harder to figure out when to get off a bus or find he right place.

Even for driving directions it's barely functional. I tried to get driving directions to my parents' house 25 KM away, but it kept insisting on showing streets on the other side of the planet with similar names instead of showing me the one with the name that I had entered. Eventually, I had to give it the city name just to give it the clue that "cragmore" is a half hour drive away, and not in Greece or England.

Of course, it took me 5 minutes to figure out how to even get driving directions... They don't use "from" and "to" style text boxes anymore...

In short, the maps app is a horrible disaster that is sadly less useful than the web version of google maps (despite all the limitations THAT has)
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Re: yawn

Many maps are like that, they look at the "simplest" point to point, vs the best.

The maps always ignore the smaller roads and focus on the major roadways.

Coming from downtown Toronto to my place, it insists upon taking Kingston Rd,but anyone worth their salt knows to take Gerrard, faster, less lights, less traffic.

However if you go past Kingston Rd the maps will take you do Danforth instead.

Same with visiting my family in Elora, it takes a roundabout way to get their. Once you've studied the maps you'll find a better route.
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said by RRedline:

As for the maps, it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. It really isn't. And it will all get fixed.

Hopefully it'll get fixed. I know a lot of users who have been burned by the lack of transit directions/data. I think Apple with it's car-centric campus overlooked something big for large segment of the population.

While it is possible to get maps of lines and such from 3rd party apps or the transit agency website, what was nice about google maps is it showed you bus stop locations.
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I've used apple iPhones since the 3Gs and have had every one since. I've always thought apple made their stuff and it not only worked well, it worked well together which was their strongest point.

I'm with you on most your points in that I don't like the apple bash fests that go on any more than I do the android bash fests - any bashing is just childish and totally immature by a bunch of morons with nothing better to do than bitch AND act like they have some sort of stake in the matter.. hint: no one here does. You either buy them, or don't.

But, if someone wants to post out a simple review as someone who ACTUALLY OWNS a device or say how they feel about their device, then so be it.

With that said.. I'm disappointed in the iPhone5 AND iOS6 for only a few reasons.

1) iPhone5's new dock cable. TOTALLY unnecessary. I see it as a cash grab for the accessory market. With one stupid decision, my home theater docks and my car connections are invalidated. One of the strongest points I liked about apple hardware was that it was a very streamlined upgrade and they didn't make you have to get all new gear every time.. until now. They DO sell an adapter, for an over priced $30.00. In my opinion, the $5 part is way over priced and a slap in the face to every iPhone user.

2) Apple has has HOW MANY LAUNCHES already of new iPhones? And yet they STILL can't seem to have enough iPhones ready for launch date? They LOVE and eat up the press they get from people lining up in front of stores everywhere. I find it ironic that it's okay to camp out on street sidewalks for a week prior to a launch of a stupid iPhone, yet when a homeless person wants to simply rest, that's somehow not okay. The circus is a slap in the face of all that is humanity and the game is a little old.

3) STILL a lack of memory stick. There is NO reason why apple should have a 16, 32, and 64gb model. It's not about the size of internal memory that gets me.. it's the fact that they will NOT simply put in a memory stick, even if it's proprietary to apple the same as was the Memory Stick to Sony. Just charge the outrageous $100 for 16gb if they want but stop the madness of no slot. I guess they don't realize people travel away from the one computer they can sync with and sometimes run out of memory. It would also be nice to carry along movies and such that one can swap in a memory port.

The above reasons are why I cancelled the pre-order of my iPhone 5.. well, for that reason and for the fact that I ordered it on the mess-day called "pre order".. except, well, as of the time of this posting I have still yet to see my order come out of back order. FUCK YOU APPLE. MOST honest businesses will not even charge the card until the item leaves the store.. however, apple/att feel it's necessary to take and use my money while I don't even have an iPhone to my name.

4) iOS 6. What ever their issue is with Google, the removal of it from the iOS with out a valid replacement isn't acceptable to me. The native mapping system and youtube app were my two most used items. Further, for apple to partner with such a piece of crap organization such as Yelp! for business information was WAY over the edge for me. MANY people used the google map app for locating businesses, or finding numbers. The un-restricted user community of Yelp! in my opinion is NOT something apple should have put in the face of millions of people.. that was a HORRIBLE mistake. A non-bias listing of businesses is ALL that should be used, ever.. When someone uses maps to locate a business, no reviews what so ever should be included with those listings. I personally feel that's a very loose anti-trust issue.

5) iOS6 should have not been released with out first making sure everything worked smoothly. The mapping program is clearly not ready for prime time. Apple is worth billions, right? They should have gotten it right.

The update day STILL causes major issues for people. Again, they simply just have never been able to give people smooth updates.. they should be prepared for the massive hits to their systems, yet they don't. We STILL hear of the 5 hour update times, failed updates, crashes, loss of data, etc.

They put people at risk with their irresponsibility and that's enough for me to finally say it's time to try something new. After almost 4 years, I'm giving apple a break.

The Samsung Galaxy 3 is in my future.

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Re: Company Promises Heavily Criticized Maps Will Get Better

Considering the sheer amount of openings posted to Apple's corporate website for Developers for their Maps functionality, I am actually inclined to believe them...

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Re: Company Promises Heavily Criticized Maps Will Get Better

The problem is that they didn't wait until the maps app was actually finished before releasing it.
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Re: Company Promises Heavily Criticized Maps Will Get Better

said by Guspaz:

The problem is that they didn't wait until the maps app was actually finished before releasing it.

You'll see no argument from me on this point.
bigboy

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Works for me

Then again, I don't spend 12 hours a day looking at Maps like it appears some people do on the web. I actually use it to make calls, read News, use Twitter and browse the web.

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Re: Works for me

said by bigboy:

Then again, I don't spend 12 hours a day looking at Maps like it appears some people do on the web. I actually use it to make calls, read News, use Twitter and browse the web.

No way? You don't really use a phone to make phone calls, do you? How prehistoric!!
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lol "12 hours a day".. what a drama queen you are.

Maps also provide the business information lookup for people. It helps people find point B.. I don't look at maps 12 hours a day either, but I can tell you on many days I've used it at least 12 times a day for various reasons.

Likewise, not everyone uses that worthless twitter app 12 hours a day either, something that apple is STILL trying to embrace.. it only took the Jailbreak community to show apple how to do it right.. again, yet another iOS "improvement" they came up with that came from the JB people.. that and the do not disturb feature, post to facebook.. among others.

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selling my new iphone since att wont let me use facetime on 3g without changing into a over priced family share data plan. no facetime with att people !!!! not fair to all the att customers on regular data plans . cant use facetime after all the hype this really sucks att. no fair at all. filing a informall complaint with the fcc ant the fcc.gov site to stop att from blocking facetime on 3g
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pffft

my iPhone 4 on Verizon runs well.
Maps..pfffft...I have a GPS app, google is working on their own and in time Apple will improve their own.
Some people are never pleased. I recall the same bitching about Siri. It will all die down in time.
Cant please 100% people 100% of the time.

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another one of Apple's own copyright 'thefts' comes to light.




said by forbes :

Is it patent infringement when you copy basic design elements?
Apple says yes, and so does a billion dollars in damages from the landmark Apple vs. Samsung case.
The Cupertino juggernaut may want to temper that claim, however, as it seems Apple may have ripped off the design for its new iPad clock app.

A report in a Swiss Newspaper, ... notes that the aforementioned clock is a near-exact duplication of the Swiss Federal Railway Clock, an apparently iconic design by Hans Hilfikker in 1944. The railway occasionally licenses the copyright out to watchmakers, so this isn't new territory.

I'm thinking Apple doesn't actually have ethical standards.
It's all just business to them.
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n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

iOS 5 Still Working

Google Maps and iOS 5 are still working on the iPhone 4S. Having played a bit with iOS 6 on an iPod Touch 4, I do not think I will be upgrading anything else right away. I do use the maps and StreetView quite a bit and this "downgrade" is just not worth it to me right now. Steve Jobs must be rolling in his grave over the ridicule Apple is getting for releasing a substandard product.
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en103

join:2011-05-02
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable

Re: iOS 5 Still Working

I agree. This kind of half baked deployment is something I'd expect out of Microsoft, not Apple.
IMHO, Apple products may not always have 'all the goods' that its competitors do, but what they have typically has been very well polished/integrated. Apple Maps are even worse than MS Bing maps. The change of the guard in Apple is starting to finally show.

mmay149q
Premium
join:2009-03-05
Dallas, TX
kudos:48

Woot thank the gods!

I've never liked Apple or their products. Shown them my respect? Sure, gotta give credit to all the inventions they've created, and the innovation in small handheld devices that give you pleasure (iPod, iPhone, iPad) however I'm hoping this is their behavior from now on, I'd love to see nothing more than this company to fail (but then their government buddies would just bail them out with our tax dollars) and Android/Windows Phone/BlackBerry to completely dominate.

Matt
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JoeSchmoe007
Premium
join:2003-01-19
Brooklyn, NY

I take an offence with Brooklyn being in Manhattan.

Everybody knows that it is the other way around. Manhattan is an island...
cooperaaaron

join:2004-04-10
Joliet, IL

Wow....

Nuff said.... Well, now Apple has to deal with it.... My Maps works great!

wings10
I Am Legend
Premium
join:2004-06-09
South Elgin, IL

Map Quest

I use the Map Quest iPhone app.

NOCTech75
Premium
join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA

iCan'tFigureOutWhereImGoing

iDontKnow maybe iOughtanotbuythis!

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Maps are crap...

I am traveling today and my wife's 4s can't figure out where we are going. Good thing I know where we are going already.
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flyingjoey

join:2005-11-07
Jersey City, NJ

Navigon + TomTom

I never relied on iMaps... I always used Navigon and tomTom so I'm still good.
macaholic
Premium
join:2003-08-31
Jackson Heights, NY

translation: thanks to our full paying beta testers...

fanboys are Apple's real beta test program. And they pull a profit with this nonsense too....
yabos

join:2003-02-16
London, ON

Bug report: iOS 6 Maps missing street view

20-Sep-2012 08:17 PM :
Summary:
iOS 5.x had street view in the Maps app.
iOS 6.x removes street view from the Maps app.

Steps to Reproduce:
Use Maps on iOS 5. Observe street view is available.
Use Maps on iOS 6. Observe street view is unavailable.

Expected Results:
Should not have a loss of features from a major OS update.

Actual Results:
People complain to me, "why did Apple remove street view?!?!?"
Me: Apple's license expired for Google Maps API access.
People: HUH???

Regression:

Notes:

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21-Sep-2012 11:20 AM Apple Developer Bug Reporting Team :
Engineering has provided the following feedback regarding this issue:

We are always looking for ways to improve our products and services. Please know that we have forwarded your comments to the appropriate group for review and consideration.

Suntop
Premium
join:2000-03-23
Choteau, MT
Reviews:
·3Rivers Communic..

Re: Bug report: iOS 6 Maps missing street view

said by yabos:

20-Sep-2012 08:17 PM :

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21-Sep-2012 11:20 AM Apple Developer Bug Reporting Team :
Engineering has provided the following feedback regarding this issue:

We are always looking for ways to improve our products and services. Please know that we have forwarded your comments to the appropriate group for review and consideration.

Umm sure they will. They are the IDIOTS that made the blunder! I swear Apple is a former shadow of itself!
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