Australia ISPs Call Net Filtering Plan 'Ridiculous'
Largest ISP participates in trials just to prove it...
Over the last few years, Australian lawmakers have been enamored with the idea of Internet filters, spending almost a hundred million on filtering technology that a teenager was able to circumnavigate in just a few minutes
. When Internet filters were voluntary and made available for download, the numbers showed that nobody used them
. Undeterred, the Australian government is going forward with mandatory filters nobody can opt-out of. Michael Malone, boss of Australia's largest ISP iiNet
, says the carrier will be signing up for trials of Australia's new mandatory Internet filtering system, though even Malone thinks it's a bad idea
Malone's main purpose was to provide the Government with "hard numbers" demonstrating "how stupid it is" - specifically that the filtering system would not work, would be patently simple to bypass, would not filter peer-to-peer traffic and would significantly degrade network speeds. "They're not listening to the experts, they're not listening to the industry, they're not listening to consumers, so perhaps some hard numbers will actually help," he said. "Every time a kid manages to get through this filter, we'll be publicising it and every time it blocks legitimate content, we'll be publicising it."
Malone goes on to opine that Australia's Communications Minister, Stephen Conroy, "is the worst Communications Minister we've had in the 15 years since the [internet] industry has existed."
So far similar efforts here in the States have either been simply too stupid to work
or ruled unconstitutional
. But as we mentioned last month
, with child porn used as a rallying cry, there's a growing push in the States to use Deep Packet Inspection to monitor each and every packet you send and receive for legality.
WTF? That govermnet is like Hitle. They are super commy and have right winged agendas?
I think they confuse themselfs. I think other govermnets should sanction them. The people in austraila revolt.
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Re: How can it fail? What you mention sounds like a totalitarian state. That is going to be about the only way to
control the population stamp out child pr0n, piracy and dissent.
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this sounds like an excellent idea maybe then politician will realize how ineffective filters, but that's being overly optimistic for some politicians out there. hopefully they won't claim that the filters need to be more complex, thus more wasted money on the part of the ISPs and slower total throughput.
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Re: this sounds like an excellent idea It was trivial for me to beat my high school's internet filter using a proxy server running on my home computer, and since nobody else knew about my proxy, it never got blocked, and I could change my IP address any time if it ever did get blocked.
Any filter would be easy to break with a proxy or VPN connection.
Deep Packet Inspection
... there's a growing push in the States to use Deep Packet Inspection to monitor each and every packet you send and receive for legality.
That push would necessitate rewriting CALEA among other statutes.
CALEA, as instituted places strict limitations upon what an ISP can look at, even on his own network.
It is illegal for an ISP to do deep packet inspection, even on his own customers, without a subpoena or CALEA action.
The only exception is monitoring for maintenance purposes. Traffic shaping would be "maintenance" purposes.
As "noble" as Malone may seem... what his ISP plans on doing will likely backfire. As I heard from another place concerning this, Conroy would probably just declare the results from iiNet as "biased" and ignore them. It wouldn't be surprising if the filter plan is pushed through regardless of the trial results.
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Bossy Aussies The Christian right in Australia seem to think this is a wonderful idea. Of course, that's because they expect to have a major input into what does and does not get censored.
We all like to have things our own way, don't we? And don't like it when they're not. Funny thing about that.
Fair, proper, open, just-- who really cares about stuff like that?
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Re: Bossy Aussies
said by Piggie:'wuzzamatter Piggie ? You got a problem with the only mainstream media outlet in the US that doesn't march in lock step with the far left ?
This is also the land of Rupert Murdoch, the owner of News Corp that owns Faux News.
It's sad to see they haven't learned the lessons we just did.Which lesson ? The lesson about not electing a leftist government across the board ?
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Re: Bossy Aussies lol
He probably has a problem with the only mainstream media outlet in the US that lives in its own little world, free of all things logical and rational.
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LOL COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.