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 CheesePremium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL kudos:1 | Quoted from Maximum PC on this article How can it be possible...
Submitted by Biceps on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 4:10pm
How can it be possible that we Americans can absorb that much information, yet, on average, get dumber every day? One of life's little mysteries, there.
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 |  |  CheesePremium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL kudos:1 | Re: Quoted from Maximum PC on this article said by jimbo2150:said by Cheese:One of life's little mysteries, there. Hardly. Who ever said that that 34GB was all informal/educational? You simply assumed that all of it was informational and that everyone should be getting smarter because of it? Sorry to burst your bubble but a large majority of that information will not help you learn beyond having some things to chat about amongst friends. Even the little bit the that is educational does not always sink in. Sorry to burst your bubble, that was the full quote, including the the "life's little mysteries", my contribution was the LOL at the end, I assume nothing. I thought it was a funny post. | |
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| said by Cheese:How can it be possible... Submitted by Biceps on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 4:10pm How can it be possible that we Americans can absorb that much information, yet, on average, get dumber every day? One of life's little mysteries, there. (World) Peace ________________________________________________ LOL! Ahhhh I'm still trying to figure out what this all means???? | |
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 |  |  CheesePremium join:2003-10-26 Naples, FL kudos:1 | Re: Quoted from Maximum PC on this article said by Corehhi:said by Cheese:How can it be possible... Submitted by Biceps on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 4:10pm How can it be possible that we Americans can absorb that much information, yet, on average, get dumber every day? One of life's little mysteries, there. (World) Peace ________________________________________________ LOL! Ahhhh I'm still trying to figure out what this all means???? It was a quote from Maximum PC article, I will post the link to the article so people don't get their panties in a bunch!
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 |  KearnstdElf WizardPremium join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ | because 33gb of that 34 is reality TV for a large chunk of the population? ok i must admit, Mythbusters is reality TV in theory but it still has more value then an entire season of survivor. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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 |  LinklistPremium join:2002-03-03 Longport, NJ kudos:5 1 edit | said by NeoandGeo:A little hard to believe unless everyone is torrenting all the time. Most of the data consumed is watching TV and playing games with game consoles. 3.3 of 3.6 zetabytes or 92%. The internet is only a small part of the total consumed. | |
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I expect they are including bandwidth used by the search engines like google. They might be slanting the curve!
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 |  | | Re: I don't think the average American has enough bandwidth. said by AstroBoy:I don't think the average American has enough bandwidth for this to be true. They must be including data that is not related to a user, but a process. If I were to upload a backup copy of my hard disk to some off-site storage, that would not be "consumed content" since I am not using the content. It would be consumed bandwidth tho. I expect they are including bandwidth used by the search engines like google. They might be slanting the curve! 34 GB must be way off. Reading is hard..
"Albeit from ALL info sources (TV, Internet, radio, phone)"
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Data is Data, and can be measured as such. It does not matter what the delivery mechanism is. Data is data? Data isn't exclusively electronic. Technically it would include everything we perceive through all of our senses (like our super-ultra-mega-HD eyes). | |
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 |  |  | | said by hookonphonix :Reading is hard.. "Albeit from ALL info sources (TV, Internet, radio, phone)" Data is Data, and can be measured as such. It does not matter what the delivery mechanism is. Ok, I missed that line. So i did not comsume those 40 or so bytes.  Radio and phone are not worth measuring compaired to TV and Internet. But since TV is included, might be true. I bet I slant the curve on that one! I assume "ALL info sources" is electronic only? If not, you must include smell, sound, taste and vision, ... That fart from 20 minutes ago was about 300 MB alone! wow I wonder what the resolution of our eyes is? Much more that 1080. And our frame rate is well beyond 30 frames per second. | |
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So, even people without an Internet connection could be in the 20-30GB per day range. | |
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Sure, there's 3G which is $60/mo. for 5GB/mo., but at least that's portable. | |
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 | | And then some Now if they could only figure out how many GB of that data is advertising... | |
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 | | What!? ... How can someone cousume 34 gigabytes EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!
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This is why the DVR concept works so well. The shows are delivered via broadcast, stored (cached) locally and the end user watches them on demand. The network doesn't become overloaded delivering a single stream to each and every individual end user, instead that stream is shared.
I think that if video delivery over the internet is to replace cable or broadcast TV fully that there needs to be widespread use of multicasting and maybe local caching/storage. | |
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I wasn't sure what a ztetabyte is. I found the above graph[1] which helps put the rate of data consumption in perspective. If a giga meter is the the distance to the sun, a zeta meter is the width of the Milky Way.
Too many video games and reality TV!
[1] »www.mathsisfun.com/metric-numbers.html
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | Zettabytes? quote: American households collectively consumed 3.6 zettabytes (one billion trillion bytes)
Zettabytes sounds like a word that only Dr. Evil could make up. -- "Net Neutrality" zealots - the people you can thank for your capped Internet service. | |
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 DesdinovaPremium join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD | Hmm... Seems to me these numbers are extremely low, depending on how they determine a gig.
I admit I didn't read the entire 37-page study but how do they convert unknown content into gigabytes? A four minute song in a wave format of 16 bits 44.1 kHz comes out to around 40.4 MBs. So if I hear ten songs an hour on the radio and I listen for three hours a day, five days a week, then I'm hearing a hundred and fifty songs a week or six hundred a month. That comes out to 24,000 MBs or 24 gigs. And that's not even counting the commercials. Of course, these numbers assume that the stations playing CDs and not some other compressed format (and that I haven't completely screwed my math up! ).
What numbers are they using to determine the size of a typical TV show? Is this number for an OTA broadcast? Cable? Satellite? and what about the different compression methods used by these different systems?
They also break down information measurement by words. Um, okay. What's the baseline? If it's something basic like "dog" does that mean a word with more syllables is two bytes and not one?
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 NOCManMacChatterPremium join:2004-09-30 Colorado Springs, CO | Terabyte is plenty for a cap So 34*31 = 1054, If an ISP wants to cap, cap it at 1000 gigs..
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 |  openbox9Premium join:2004-01-26 japan kudos:2 | Re: Terabyte is plenty for a cap Considering this questionable "report" estimates that internet video, communication, and web browsing only make up 0.24% of the total bytes consumed, your ISP should be able to cap you at 2.4 GB/mth. Is that still plenty? | |
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 SSX4lifeHello WorldPremium join:2004-02-13 kudos:2 | One hundred billion ka-pupataz-bits! I use one hundred billion ka-pupataz-bits every single day! We need more regulation so I don't use what I pay for!
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We rock!
Seriously, I would expect nearly all of that "data" is in media. Mostly video. Maybe a significant chunk in interactive video (ie, games) for the under 20 demographic.
Makes for great headlines, doesn't it? Note to self, cut off UCSD funding for useless studies. Otherwise expect the breakthrough report: "Nearly everyone breathes a lot. Daily" -- My place : »www.schettino.us | |
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 wvcaverPremium join:2005-04-17 Millersburg, OH | But how can this be When 1GB limit gets you "70,000 e-mails, 34 hours of gaming or 1,344 hours of Web browsing.
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