  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 |  1 Quarter?
I'd be interested in seeing the numbers from Q2 2006 to Q2 2007 in North America. I doubt it would be any different as 3Mbps DSL has been deployed for ages, but it would be a more worthwhile comparison.
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 DrModemPremium
join:2006-10-19
USA
kudos:1 | On the list lol, North America, Middle East, Africa..., which one shouldn't belong?  | |
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| Re: On the list Well with our economy getting ready to drop out like african countries , I can sadly say the middle east doesn't belong. At least they have oil money.
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| | last I checked Canada was in North America and not a separate entity. | |
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|  MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX | Re: last I checked True they must have not changed also or not enough to make a significant change. Plus with all the capping going on I figured everyone might jump on board with DSL.
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | I noticed that one as well.
I guess many down here in the U.S. consider 'North America' as the U.S. and Mexico (most of the south/west is an extension of Mexico anyways), and Canada is that 'other place'. I suspect that whoever put that 'North America & Canada' entry must live in the south.
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| |  DownTheShoreJust Say No To NewtsPremium
join:2003-12-02
Beautiful NJ
kudos:10 | Re: last I checked I thought Canada was the 51st state. Did I miss something? 
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| | | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: last I checked Last time I checked, the Canadian dollar is worth more than the U.S. Dollar. I think Mexico is the 51st state... or maybe its the other way... U.S. is a part of Mexico
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join:2007-08-02
Winfield, BC | Re: last I checked Man I love canada hah my GF went shoping in the US, thanks guys. I gave her a few bills and she brought me back the mall | |
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| Re: last I checked said by Ash3r:Man I love canada hah eh. My GF went shopping in the US, eh. Thanks guys, eh. I gave her a few bills and she brought me back the mall. Eh. Updated with Canadian slang, eh! 
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| |  JammerMan79Premium,VIP
join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC
kudos:10 | LOL.. that immediately came to my mind as well. | |
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| | | as is Mexico. USA and Canada would have been a more appropriate field name. | |
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 pokesphIt Is Almost FastPremium
join:2001-06-25
Sacramento, CA
kudos:1 | dsl speeds Once again it's (always) focused on downstream speeds.. would like to see much more focus and progress on increased upstream.
BOO to the USA - we suck when it comes to broadband speeds in general. | |
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|  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Re: dsl speeds What is funny every Friend I have would has returned from Duty in Iraq has told me whenever they confiscated a computer to look for intelligence it was full of prono. In Bagdad at least they really do have "Broad" band.
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 Titus PulloI came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
kudos:1 | Yeah, but who leads in ButtMonkey_Bundles® ????
Got you there ... rest0the world!
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| | You gotta realize... elsewhere in the world it's the government that's subsidizing technology deployment and saddling their own citizens with the burden. You want that?
It's not a fair fight to compare AT&T, et al in North America to those areas. But take away the subsidies and companies serving those areas would fall flat on their face. No way any company on their own can handle bandwidth costs for those speeds, just ask Comcast (bittorrent). It's just way too expensive. | |
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| davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:7 Reviews:
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| Re: You gotta realize... said by JasonD :
elsewhere in the world it's the government that's subsidizing technology deployment and saddling their own citizens with the burden. As opposed to Verizon "saddling me with the burden"?
Your reaction seems to be knee-jerk anti-government. Data are needed before a comparison can be made. My guess there are two figures to think about: (a) end-user cost per megabit per second, for both 'tax' and 'direct payment', and (b) non-end-user cost: i.e., how much the non-participants have to contribute to support the rest of us.
OT, I thought the whole idea of not having the government do this sort of thing was so that there would be lots of healthy competition improving the available services? | |
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|  IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK
1 edit | said by JasonD :
elsewhere in the world it's the government that's subsidizing technology deployment and saddling their own citizens with the burden. You want that?
It's not a fair fight to compare AT&T, et al in North America to those areas. That's just so not true, nice try at putting the rest of the world down to preserve your blushes though. I'm sorry to say that the vast majority of the rest of the world has no state subsidy to broadband provision, still it's as good an excuse as any for greed and underperformance from your incumbents on their DSL products. | |
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|  morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000 | you are incorrect. | |
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| rayePremium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | ask PA how they feel about being "saddled" with billions of dollars in tax breaks to Verizon in return for T3s (45 Mpbs symmetric) to all homes.
2007 how many homes have access to Verizon 20/20 or 50/50 service??? | |
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| bjbrock
join:2002-10-28
Mcalester, OK | Whether thru taxes or rates it is the people funding broadband.
AT&T is as subsidized as any foreign entity. The FCC is guaranteeing their existence thru rulings. The US could have as much bandwidth as Europe and AT&T (and others) can afford to do it. Since they have regional monopolies they just don't have to.
Don't think for a minute that government funding is making the difference. It's corporate greed. | |
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 telcolackeyThe Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA | There are lies, damn lies and statistics Has anyone published these stats with other relevant information? Like tax rates, government contribution, population / square mile, max caps or usage tiers, etc? | |
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 Jodokast96R.I.P Bassman442Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
kudos:2 | Something not right here? This is due to operators such as China Tietong and NTT which have introduced services with downstream speeds as high as 100 Mbps." 100 Mbps DSL? Is that a typo or what? | |
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| IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK | Re: Something not right here? said by Jodokast96:This is due to operators such as China Tietong and NTT which have introduced services with downstream speeds as high as 100 Mbps." 100 Mbps DSL? Is that a typo or what? VDSL 2 my man, VDSL 2. UVerse could do it on short enough loops however AT+T see fit to restrict you to 6/1 *snicker* | |
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| | Jodokast96R.I.P Bassman442Premium
join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
kudos:2 | Re: Something not right here? Yeah, 100 mbps at 1500 ft. and 50 by 3200 ft. Somehow I don't see that being widely deployed anywhere, especially China. | |
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|  Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
kudos:2 | I would assume 100mbps DSL is probably only very short distances. VDSL2 does those speeds (wow 100mbps @ 3500ft is claimed! See: »www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=art···A6347250 ). Especially in Japan they run fiber to buildings then use the existing copper to go to each apartment - so it's kind of a hybrid DSL solution as the remote terminal is actually in the building. | |
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 ARGONAUTgot ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | o-well And that's why we'll never have jet cars. | |
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 JonPremium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL | Asia Yeah they have great speeds.
Must make the 4 websites they're allowed to visit load really really fast.
Go to jail, never to be seen again at 100 Mbps!  | |
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| DrModemPremium
join:2006-10-19
USA
kudos:1 | Re: Asia South Korea and Japan (I think) count as Asia, not just China. | |
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 rit56
join:2000-12-01
New York, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| Corporate Apologists Where are the pro-corporate posters now? We are officially a third world nation when it comes to deploying technology. Amazing. Never thought I would see that. We are equal with Africa and the Middle East. Well what do you pro Verizon, Comcast cheer leaders have to say now? | |
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 gaforcesUnited We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA
1 edit | Its not by country Figure 1: Average downstream speed by region (global)
If the table were by country, the US would be is in a very worse situation, not propped up by Canada. | |
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| | | Re: Its not by country Do tell how much better Canada is faring... | |
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 RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium
join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
kudos:1 | America, no longer the technological leader :) Q.What happened?
A.Two terms of Gwbuh | |
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| | | Re: America, no longer the technological leader :) Amen to the tax cut for the rich. When people figure that they can take all that money home why even invest in development or employee salaries. Also slower broadband prevents the terrorists from sending out emails fast. So an overall win-win for the US....YAY...I have nothing to hide | |
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| | | | Re: America, no longer the technological leader :) Trickle down economics didn't work cause those who had it let it trickle down abroad. Corporations have given up here.. they know once the thin veil is blown away what you have is a third world nation ( look at what Katrina exposed) A third world nation doesn't need high speed internet. | |
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bigiinscPremium
join:2002-09-14
Columbia, SC | broad band speed by country Not all Governments subsidize the isp , in New Zealand for instance government demanded the telco upgrade to all its customers in other Asian countries the government owns the telco and just how many people actually have phone service not to mention broad band ? | |
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| | | Re: broad band speed by country bigiinsc, you been out of your neck of the woods? I mean out of the US?
You ask how many people in Asia have phone service - probably a very high percentage. My experience in Australia and S.E. Asia was a real surprise. | |
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| | Those are North America's speeds?!!? lol!!! Hi guys. How can you guys accept such a low speed from your isp? Here in Portugal, cable and dsl have a maximum speed of 24mbps/640kbps (down/up). I have this speed for as little as 45 bucks a month... It's time for you to do something 'bout that... You guys usually sue everybody for anything, but when it comes down to basic rights, you do nothing... | |
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