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 |  cacoPremium join:2005-03-10 Whittier, AK | Re: list please The full report will be available Monday | |
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 | | Canada 10 hrs of the day 256 kilobit 14hrs a day 5 megabit you do the average boy lovely to be barely above average | |
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 DaveDudeNo Fear join:1999-09-01 New Jersey kudos:1 | Imagine if the bailout went to build networks Imagine if the bailout money, went to network building , rather then the pockets, of Frannie and Freddie executives, and AIG ? | |
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 |  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:2 | Re: Imagine if the bailout went to build networks said by DaveDude:Imagine if the bailout money, went to network building , rather then the pockets, of Frannie and Freddie executives, and AIG ? We'd have a next gen Internet infrastructure, but no homes  | |
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| Re: Imagine if the bailout went to build networks said by Rob:said by DaveDude:Imagine if the bailout money, went to network building , rather then the pockets, of Frannie and Freddie executives, and AIG ? We'd have a next gen Internet infrastructure, but no homes But you got to have your priorities !  -- They Live... We Sleep...
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 |  |  |  RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL kudos:2 | Re: Imagine if the bailout went to build networks said by DaveDude:said by Rob:said by DaveDude:Imagine if the bailout money, went to network building , rather then the pockets, of Frannie and Freddie executives, and AIG ? We'd have a next gen Internet infrastructure, but no homes But you got to have your priorities ! I couldn't agree more. Imagine if the bailout money went to public education and network building. We'd have the most advanced schools with unlimited technological resources to educate our future. | |
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 |  |  |  |  Radio ActiveRadio GeekPremium join:2003-01-31 Fullerton, CA kudos:1 | Re: Imagine if the bailout went to build networks said by Rob:I couldn't agree more. Imagine if the bailout money went to public education and network building. We'd have the most advanced schools with unlimited technological resources to educate our future. Agree. 
Good call, Rob . -- A filthy mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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 |  |  |  |  | | well let's see what would happen if a vast majority of the financial industry in the US collapsed... a possible subset of the outcomes include: nothing as new giants emerge(highly unlikely), US becomes a complete socialist/communinist regime, china/russia/or other country buys up the shambles that was known as the financial industry which effectively buys the US, or just a plunge into a epicly sized depression. take your pick.
would the best really matter if everything sucks?
to all those that complain about the executives getting their bonuses still, LEARN SOME MATH. their bonuses combined is 165 million, right? that is absolutely NOTHING when comparing to the +100 (700?) billion in bailout money. it's like arguing over cents for a mid to high-end TV. get over it people. if you throwing a fit about the executives getting their bonuses, you better to ready to gather and army and revolt when it comes to the bailout money. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Imagine if the bailout went to build networks Exactly...the ire is regarding the fact that key govt. officials who were preparing the bailout cash were also very aware of the bonuses. These politicians should be hung out to dry...but the American public is too stupid to see it. To be angry with AIG is definitely a displacement of anger but nothing makes much sense today and the truth is hard to find. | |
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 |  |  |  NormanSPremium,MVM join:2001-02-14 San Jose, CA kudos:4 | FTTH to cardboard boxes in underpasses? | |
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 |  | | Imagine there was no bailout money and we got to keep the money. Then we could decide for ourselves whether we wanted houses, internet or cocoa puffs. People can't even think for themselves anymore.
Oh well, I guess I can try to cling to the rim. | |
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Imagine there was no bailout money and we got to keep the money. Then we could decide for ourselves whether we wanted houses, internet or cocoa puffs. People can't even think for themselves anymore.
Oh well, I guess I can try to cling to the rim. If we did keep the bailout money, each person would get about $11,000 according to the SF Chronicle. | |
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| Re: Imagine if the bailout went to build networks said by KrazyDawg:If we did keep the bailout money, each person would get about $11,000 according to the SF Chronicle. Around here that is a 1% down payment on a cardboard box. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum | |
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 |  |  |  | | Funny thing they dont tell you how much it would be if they only gave it to those with a home loan... they just say if they gave it to everybody... It shoulda went to those who have a home loan... intrest only or not... | |
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 |  |  |  h7 @charter.com | said by KrazyDawg:said by Taxpayer_plus :
Imagine there was no bailout money and we got to keep the money. Then we could decide for ourselves whether we wanted houses, internet or cocoa puffs. People can't even think for themselves anymore.
Oh well, I guess I can try to cling to the rim. If we did keep the bailout money, each person would get about $11,000 according to the SF Chronicle. It's been said before and I'm saying it again then.. enforce.. collect back.. and everyone wants their $11000 in $100's of course. :P
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 | | Why o y? are geeks so concerned about download speeds. Just use your interweb connections people. Quit dissecting your bandwidth logs...There's bigger things in life to be concerned about...Renewable energy, global warming, peace in the middle east, are my ink carts still full, etc... | |
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| Re: Why o y? said by ninjatutle:are geeks so concerned about download speeds. Just use your interweb connections people. Quit dissecting your bandwidth logs...There's bigger things in life to be concerned about...Renewable energy, global warming, peace in the middle east, are my ink carts still full, etc... because those can all be solved with more bandwidth, of course.
I'll solve renewable energy problems if you give me gigabit internet. -- "What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of omniscience? ...If we can't persuade nations with comparable values of the merit of our cause, we'd better reexamine our reasoning." -United States Secretary of Defense (1961-1968) Robert S. McNamara | |
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 |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: Why o y? Hey, that could solve it...even more teleconferencing  | |
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| said by tiger72:said by ninjatutle:are geeks so concerned about download speeds. Just use your interweb connections people. Quit dissecting your bandwidth logs...There's bigger things in life to be concerned about...Renewable energy, global warming, peace in the middle east, are my ink carts still full, etc... because those can all be solved with more bandwidth, of course. Exactly... once everyone has 10Gb/s access to porn and free movies there will no reason to worry about air quality, how hot it is outside, what is happening on the other side of the earth or whether or not ninjatutle can print in full color because we'll all be inside 24/7. | |
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 |  |  |  DataDocMy avatar looks like me, if I was 2D.Premium join:2000-05-14 Greenville, NC | Re: Why o y? And the "Caves of Steel" will have arrived three millennia early. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Why o y? said by DataDoc:And the "Caves of Steel" will have arrived three millennia early. Nice Asimov reference! It's been atleast 15 years since I read that series... still remember Daneel and Giscard (sp?). -- "Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." | |
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 |  |  |  | | said by bemis:said by tiger72:said by ninjatutle:are geeks so concerned about download speeds. Just use your interweb connections people. Quit dissecting your bandwidth logs...There's bigger things in life to be concerned about...Renewable energy, global warming, peace in the middle east, are my ink carts still full, etc... because those can all be solved with more bandwidth, of course. Exactly... once everyone has 10Gb/s access to porn and free movies there will no reason to worry about air quality, how hot it is outside, what is happening on the other side of the earth or whether or not ninjatutle can print in full color because we'll all be inside 24/7. bahahaahahaahaahhahhahaahhhhhhahahahah!!!! | |
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 |  |  Killa200Premium join:2005-12-02 Southeast TN | Re: Why o y? I've been demanding faster speeds and an actual "always on" connection and practically my entire area has been demanding any form of broadband for about 5 1/2 years now.... but we don't see it? A lot of other places are like this too... | |
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| Re: Why o y? said by Killa200:I've been demanding faster speeds and an actual "always on" connection and practically my entire area has been demanding any form of broadband for about 5 1/2 years now.... but we don't see it? A lot of other places are like this too... But this article talks about speeds not availability. I live in a semi suburban area and it was till 4 years ago we had some form of broadband. But availability i can understand people complaining, but the constant drumbeat about speeds is tiresome. -- They Live... We Sleep...
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 | | canada less than 3 megabit with the throttle of bell, if rogers and others do it 24/7 then decrease accordingly and if USA = 17th that measn canada is even worse by a few spots at least when we start equaling african nations is i guess hte time to say were right were we need ot be. /me winks | |
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 wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY | This topic wins the 2009 "WHO THE F CARES!" award As if the world doesnt have better things to worry about, here at DSLR we are constantly bombarded with 'news' articles about internet speeds, and how we compare to other countries. I truly cant think of a more pointless discussion, although I am sure there are other 'noteworth' picks.
Coming in a a close 2nd place, is the "Why does Japan have faster broadband than the US" garbage discussion.  -- When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat. -Ronald Reagan-
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 |  IgnitePremium,VIP join:2004-03-18 UK | Re: This topic wins the 2009 "WHO THE F CARES!" award said by wifi4milez:As if the world doesnt have better things to worry about, here at DSLR we are constantly bombarded with 'news' articles about internet speeds, and how we compare to other countries. I truly cant think of a more pointless discussion, although I am sure there are other 'noteworth' picks. Coming in a a close 2nd place, is the "Why does Japan have faster broadband than the US" garbage discussion. I know! Anyone would think this were a broadband discussion / news site.  | |
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 |  me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | +1 I don't care so much about the speed I want a solid connection, and as long as I can do HQ youtube I am happy. | |
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 |  | | Then again... this is called BROADBAND REPORTS DOT COM... duh | |
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 |  Lazlow join:2006-08-07 Saint Louis, MO | wifi4milez
Why does it bother you when we compare broadband in the US to broadband in other countries? How else can things be judged but by comparison? | |
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 |  joetaxpayerI'M Here Till Thursday join:2001-09-07 Sudbury, MA Reviews:
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| Well, the worlds' median income is $850 or so (yes, per year) and in the US, it's more like $45,000. So i think we should have 50 times the average speed of the world, 75Mb/s would be about right to keep up with the (insert generic name here, I don't want to risk an attempt at humor to turn into a remark mistaken as racist) | |
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 Lark3poPremium join:2003-08-05 Madison, AL | Keep the speed... Knology can keep half the speed they claim... JUST GIVE ME A HALF DECENT PING DAMNINIT! | |
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 | | Perhaps things might havebeen better with the shrub Perhaps things might have been better with the shrub in the white house along with his conservative crime syndicate. Or perhaps Haliburton was an ISP. | |
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 |  KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium join:2000-01-17 Tulsa, OK | Re: Perhaps things might havebeen better with the shrub Not a chance. | |
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| Personally I think the average is a bit skewed.... Due to some people having access to 50mbps speeds that others will likely not be able to access for decades.
3.9 megabits sounds decent, and it is, but I know most of the United states don't get that speed. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 |  DeathKPremium join:2002-06-16 Cincinnati, OH | Re: Personally I think the average is a bit skewed.... Like myself even though I don't live in the sticks. I get ~1.9Mbps. | |
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| Re: Personally I think the average is a bit skewed.... Try living in Canada where it's more about the Stifling of innovation and technological advancement with Bell and Rogers.
BUT!!! We also do not have a tyrannical government running the scene...there isn't rampant starvation, clean water, all the amenities that we can take for granted. While the broadband state here DOES bug the crap outta me still there is much to be grateful for that this country does offer.
Still, I hope Bell and Rogers go down. | |
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| Re: Personally I think the average is a bit skewed.... said by XNemesis:Try living in Canada where it's more about the Stifling of innovation and technological advancement with Bell and Rogers. BUT!!! We also do not have a tyrannical government running the scene...there isn't rampant starvation, clean water, all the amenities that we can take for granted. While the broadband state here DOES bug the crap outta me still there is much to be grateful for that this country does offer. Still, I hope Bell and Rogers go down. Bell and Rogers going down is the LAST thing you need. You just railed about the stifling of innovation and technological advancement, and nothing causes that more than having a monopoly. With only one (or even two) major players in a market there is no real competition, no incentive to develop new products or technologies, and no need to engage in price-cutting.
If you really wanted to see a change in the Canadian ISP landscape you'd want not only Bell and Rogers (and Shaw, and Cogeco, and Videotron, etc.) but many other major players. | |
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 mwkesslerMillenicom join:2003-10-24 Harrington, DE | Delaware Speeds are a lie! I dont where they are getting their numbers from but most of Delaware can only get satellite connection unless you live in the city. | |
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