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Despite DOCSIS 3, average speed slower than last year...
(old news - 04:36PM Tuesday Jan 19 2010)
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Akamai recently released their latest "State of the Internet Report," (registration required) which every quarter covers a number of topics including broadband penetration, broadband speeds, security, and more. It's of particular interest to our readers, as the company gathers the data from clients that have hit their 56,000-strong global content server network, tracking 444 million unique IP addresses from 226 countries. That kind of data volume of course offers at least a partial glimpse at useful broadband statistics.

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According to the latest data, the United States continues to lag when it comes to user broadband speed -- with the country's average speed being 3.9 Mbps -- putting us in eighteenth place overall. According to Akamai, the U.S. actually saw a 2.4 percent decline on a year-over-year basis, though a 1.8% rise in speeds from quarter to quarter. The company believes we should see some movement on this front with the proliferation of DOCSIS 3.0 and FTTH service.

South Korea came in first place with an average of 14.6Mbps, while Japan came in second place with an average speed of 7.9 Mbps. The lowest average connection speed seen in the third quarter was in Mayotte (an island in the Indian Ocean), at 43 Kbps. Just 19% of the Internet connections around the world were at speeds greater than 5 Mbps, says the company.

The report does a nice job breaking down the speed data on a State and town/city level, noting that Sandy, Utah has the fastest average speeds in the country at 33464 kbps (courtesy of the Utopia fiber network). Delaware, with a high number of Verizon FiOS installs, continues its reign as the fastest U.S. state with an average connection speed of 7.2 MBps. While some States like Hawaii saw a 40% increase in average measured connection speeds, states like Kentucky saw 41% average speed reductions:
Overall, 25 states saw average connection speeds decline in the third quarter – Kentucky shed 41%, while Nevada dropped just 0.3%, which was enough to push them out of being one of the top 10 fastest states. Quarterly increases seen by the other half of the states ranged from a minor 0.3% gain by Iowa to Massachusetts' 20% increase. Comparing average connection speeds year-over-year, 25 states saw speeds decline.
Akamai attributes the slow down to a number of factors, including major service outages (like GMail) and hurricanes Gustav and Ike, which tore paths across a number of the states. The report is chock full of interesting data for statistic nerds and is well worth a look.

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hayabusa3303
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Isp need a life.

we are 18 over all but, yet they want to cap and meter us to death.
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lolatidiots

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Glendale, CA

we gotta do what we gotta do!

look, if we dont cap our speeds and meter, the terrorists will win.
Sammer

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Canonsburg, PA

Re: we gotta do what we gotta do!

said by geonap See Profile :

look, if we dont cap our speeds and meter, the terrorists will win.
I thought the capping and metering was being done for the children.
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lolatidiots

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hmm, it could be for our grand parents to save money

jadebangle
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what do you mean?
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lolatidiots

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what? you haven't heard the excuse "its for the children, it's to stop terrorism or it's to save money for our grandmothers" ? you should search the grandmothers on dslreports

Z80A
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That isn't what is available

It only reflects what people choose to buy.
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Re: That isn't what is available

said by Z80A See Profile :

It only reflects what people choose to buy.
If 50mb/50mb fiber was available to everyone for the same price they where paying now i would bet they would have that instead.

My point being whats available does have an affect on what people purchase.

N3OGH
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Re: That isn't what is available

Delaware the fastest state?

I thought Delaware was part of New Jersey
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jmn1207
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Re: That isn't what is available

said by N3OGH See Profile :

Delaware the fastest state?

I thought Delaware was part of New Jersey
I thought it was just a toll booth when traveling along North East Coast.
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Re: That isn't what is available

Delaware and New Jersey are the armpit of America !
beaups

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EXACTLY! With the economy where it's at, I'm sure more than a few of us scaled back from a 7Mb plan to a 2Mb plan? Most people could care less if DOCSIS 12 shows up. I am surprised the source doesn't cite decreased consumer spending as a contributing factor.

wolverine_99
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Re: That isn't what is available

That's exactly my first thought. How many people have scaled back their internet speeds in an effort to save money? I have several friends who scaled back their speeds in an effort to save money but still keep HSI. Let's look at this again when the economy is fully recovered in 2-3 years. You'll see a different tune from normal Americans. No offense, but anyone on BBR is not a normal broadband user. I'd consider BBR users to be power users who will sacrifice elsewhere to maintain higher speeds when faced with a budget shortfall at home.
ncbill
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Re: That isn't what is available

I'm helping a number of neighbors switch from cable broadband ($50/month) to AT&T's new DSL promo ($25/month for 12 months).

Most here in my neighborhood are only provisioning at 3MB, but at half the price of cable it's worth it to them.

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said by beaups See Profile :

EXACTLY! With the economy where it's at, I'm sure more than a few of us scaled back from a 7Mb plan to a 2Mb plan? Most people could care less if DOCSIS 12 shows up. I am surprised the source doesn't cite decreased consumer spending as a contributing factor.
I have the option of scaling back to 1mb but i'll stay at 20mb for 70 a month. 1mb is 30 a month. so 40 buck saving will lose me 19mb, no thanks!

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In reality it probably reflects both, though you'd need more granular market by market data to really see.

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said by Z80A See Profile :

It only reflects what people choose to buy.
Yes. What happened to all the gigabit speeds in Korea we always hear about? Are they real? Are they generally available? Or are they so costly, nobody wants to pay for them.
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Re: That isn't what is available

Don't know if you understand how the akamai network works , but these are measures to an akamai pop. So if they have gig fiber or 100 mbit links it doesn't matter if the pop or links to the akamai pop are congested enough to only allow so much data flow.

Knowing akamai as well as I do, I understand the spin they throw out there a bit better. We often took this with a grain of salt , akamai does not have a pop in every country and can only measure the hits on their equipment.
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Re: That isn't what is available

said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

Don't know if you understand how the akamai network works , but these are measures to an akamai pop. So if they have gig fiber or 100 mbit links it doesn't matter if the pop or links to the akamai pop are congested enough to only allow so much data flow.

Knowing akamai as well as I do, I understand the spin they throw out there a bit better. We often took this with a grain of salt , akamai does not have a pop in every country and can only measure the hits on their equipment.
You don't sound like you know much at all about how Akamai works with when you dumb things like "but these are measures to an akamai pop." Nope, that's not how Akamai works. Anyway there is no better way or any other company in the world better positioned for this type of data.
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Re: That isn't what is available

Worked there with engineers for awhile , akamai captures data based on their locations , the database is huge and yes I worked with it.

These are speed measures dependent on who hits the closest akamai server. And it averages out how much data a particular region uses on average. This measures how much data leaves each server and is averaged out based on each pop in the region where the servers lay.

I worked there and worked with the data. I may have phrased it to simplistic for your mind ?
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jmn1207
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Re: That isn't what is available

You can never phrase anything too simplistically for my mind. It seems that this Akamai data is becoming a bit of a benchmark of sorts. It's as good a place for anyone to start when researching regional broadband performance, although this is such an inexact science.
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Re: That isn't what is available

Exactly , and until we have an easy exact science , this can be taken with a grain of salt.

Relying on one companies benchmarks, no matter how big the company is in the internet world is a big mistake.
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said by Z80A See Profile :

It only reflects what people choose to buy.
So then, what you really mean to say, is price v speed, is still way out of wack, and we are still getting ripped off, be the connection slow or fast.

I was pretty sure that's what you meant..
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Z80A
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Re: That isn't what is available

No it's not. I mean that people are quite content with bottom tier offerings because there are so many other sources of information and entertainment in the States.

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Re: That isn't what is available

said by Z80A See Profile :

No it's not. I mean that people are quite content with bottom tier offerings because there are so many other sources of information and entertainment in the States.
Wow, you speak for us all, do you? Reminds me of someone else on this site.

So, back up your bold claims.
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Z80A
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Re: That isn't what is available

dslreports.com/archive doesn't lie. People buy what they buy. If they want faster speeds they can easily get them for only a few dollars more than the tiers they're on.

Unless you can prove otherwise.

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Re: That isn't what is available

said by Z80A See Profile :

dslreports.com/archive doesn't lie. People buy what they buy. If they want faster speeds they can easily get them for only a few dollars more than the tiers they're on.

Unless you can prove otherwise.
So you make bold claims, which I dispute, and you tell me to go find my own answers. Typical. And again, you sure seem to think, you know what everyone on earth is doing and thinking.

You are even changing your statement, as you said "I mean that people are quite content with bottom tier offerings because there are so many other sources of information and entertainment in the States." Which doesn't really tie in with the new statement you made.

It seems to me, even you don't know what you mean, or are talking about, or have the ability to express one idea, and stick to it.

So yeah, sure. People having poor internet speeds, is all about them not wanting more speed, and has nothing to do with price. Or wait, no, they don't need higher speeds, because they have other sources of information and entertainment.. Yeah, that must be it too...
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said by Z80A See Profile :

dslreports.com/archive doesn't lie. People buy what they buy. If they want faster speeds they can easily get them for only a few dollars more than the tiers they're on.

Unless you can prove otherwise.
We have 50Mbps Fios and 15Mbps cable available.

A survey of 23 neighbors reveals that most choose to buy 768K (now 1M) DSL or 1.5Mbps cable modems. Two have 10M Fios. We have 768K cable, chosen to save money ($27/mo).

DSLR forum members are mostly power users, not exactly representative of the average American demographic. Most households are NOT purchasing the maximum speed available.

cowboyro

join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT

Connection speed is not internet speed

Many places have "metro" networks that run at 100M - and that skews the numbers. They work great for DC++ (I have friends who share a DVD rip in a matter of 10 minutes) , however the speed outside the metro network usually doesn't get so high.
kustomjs

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Coldwater, OH

broadband

I have FTTH with 5mb down and 6.5mb upload and only paying 39.95 a month for it and I wish I have a faster speed for download.

thegeek
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Re: broadband

is that 5mb down and 6.5mb up a typo? never heard of an isp selling faster upload than download.
kustomjs

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Re: broadband

no that isnt no typo if you want me to I will show you in a speed test.



the reason why the download is slower the upload is because my ISP caps the download at 5mb.

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avg 1.0/1.0

on this so called 15/2

chong67

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Explain the joke that ATT is caping on upload speed at 400 kbps? Come on man!
SuperWISP

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Some people really are downgrading due to the economy.

I'm an ISP, and I'm getting the calls: "Can we just downgrade to the "economy" plan? It's fast enough for us."

It's also worth noting that while ISPs are increasing capacity, demand for bandwidth is outstripping the amount that ISPs can afford to invest in infrastructure because consumers refuse to pay more to get more. We have lots of users who expect us to make things faster as the bandwidth demands of applications increase, but do not want to pay any more for the higher speeds. This even though our cost per Mbps has gone up a bit, not down, during the past year.
sonicmerlin

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Re: Some people really are downgrading due to the economy.

said by SuperWISP See Profile :

I'm an ISP, and I'm getting the calls: "Can we just downgrade to the "economy" plan? It's fast enough for us."
Really? That would explain why DSL providers are still hemorrhaging customers to cable, and why they`re bothering to upgrade to FTTN or FTTH, how?

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It's also worth noting that while ISPs are increasing capacity, demand for bandwidth is outstripping the amount that ISPs can afford to invest in infrastructure because consumers refuse to pay more to get more. We have lots of users who expect us to make things faster as the bandwidth demands of applications increase, but do not want to pay any more for the higher speeds. This even though our cost per Mbps has gone up a bit, not down, during the past year.

I`m having trouble understanding your claims.

Do you have any actual data to prove that the cost of increasing capacity of networks is outripping the amount that ISPS have to invest? And aren`t consumers willing to pay more for higher speed tiers?

People are willing to pay more for higher-speed tiers. That`s the way every ISP system works.
KingKuei6

join:2002-11-18
Union City, CA

It's not that bad...

I'm actually quite surprised by Akamai's report as I was actually expecting an average downstream speed of LESS than 3mbps. Many of my friends and family members who are on DSL are getting only 384kbps (economy plan) to 1.5mbps, and do not seem willing to spend more for extra speed as a previous poster pointed out.

But it's clear that the path we're currently on is unsustainable. Consumers are hungry for bandwidth, whether it be wireless or wired. But upgrading the backhaul infrastructure in a country as big as ours is expensive and by the time one upgrade is complete, the development of content already saturates that new capacity, requiring yet another significant deployment of resources to infrastructure upgrades.

Did anyone notice that the top 10 countries on that list ALL happen to be either small islands or small countries? It's much easier and much cheaper to deploy and upgrade infrastructure across smaller geographic areas, and much more cost-effective when population concentrations are centered around a handful of major metropolitan centers. Compare that to the large suburban populations around the US, plus our significantly larger land mass, then add in higher cost of labor, and all of a sudden, you have massive cost issues, longer deployment times, all with smaller ROIs. And of course, the major players in the US are publicly-traded, and investors don't look favorably upon large capital expenditures without subsequent increases in revenue, earnings, market share, etc. Look at the flak Verizon got when they first announced their plan to build the FiOS network. Plenty of investors screamed bloody murder! It's already amazing that service providers can charge what they do for some of these connections and still remain in business.

I'm paying $78/month for Comcast's DOCSIS 3 tier from which I get 22mbps/5mbps on non-PowerBoosted state (30/10 when PB is active), which I don't think is necessarily unreasonable given the capabilities that the speed provides for. I can do 3-way video conferencing on my line, watch 720p videos without ridiculous buffer/download times. Things that take an hour on my friends' slow DSL lines take seconds to minutes on mine. And thus far, my content uses haven't outpaced the available speed. And I happen to live in a suburban community, so I'm just relieved that I can get this. Would I like to pay less? Sure. Who wouldn't? But is it an unreasonable price for what I'm getting? Not necessarily. Market competition can only bring prices so low. At the end of the day, the providers still need to balance the need to make money, appease their investors, while also staying competitive. It's a tough balancing act, and one which I think is only getting more difficult as Internet content places greater demands on the network.

DenisRis

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Re: It's not that bad...

To mitigate the capital expenditure costs of individual companies, and propagate the expansion of high speed internet services what should happen is the state should take over the pipes, tax payers pay for expansion, maintenance and future upgrades while the ISPs lease the lines from the State. It provides a level playing field for the ISPs to compete on without directly incurring capital expenditure costs. This also allows new entrants to offer services driving down the cost of the service.

The only way I can see the expansion of fiber to continue at its current rate sustainably (or even accelerate) is for someone big who doesn't have to answer to shareholders to take over.

Afterall we entrusted the state to build the national railway network and highway network now the future is the infrastructure required for carrying the internet.

My 0.02$

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said by KingKuei6 See Profile :

I'm paying $78/month for Comcast's DOCSIS 3 tier from which I get 22mbps/5mbps on non-PowerBoosted state (30/10 when PB is active), which I don't think is necessarily unreasonable given the capabilities that the speed provides for.
Personally,
Paying $78 for ANY internet speed is stupid!! Granted, I know if you want to go faster, you pay more, but if you're so greedy you have to start paying THAT much for internet, that's beyond my reasoning capabilities!
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KingKuei6

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Re: It's not that bad...

And no offense, but you basically fit into the average population of a provider's subscriber base. If your sense of reasonable price is say $30/month, then that's what the providers have to target. If that means providing 3.0mbps max, then that's what you'll get. There are others who are paying $100-$130 for even faster connections. Verizon DSL meets your needs; fine. Perhaps you don't have any uses for a faster pipe, but others do. That doesn't make us greedy, it just means that we have applications or content that require it, such as 3-way video conferencing, large batch uploads, VOIP, etc.

Let's face it though. You can go get 56k dial up for $5 a month. It takes you to the same Internet, right? Why not just pay for that instead of whatever you're paying now: $13, $20, $30+ for DSL? But obviously webpages are no longer just static lines of text with cheesy clip art graphics. Now it's rich content with images and videos and ads. So you needed a faster pipe, because waiting 78 seconds for the NYTimes to load on 56k is painful when it might take just a few seconds on a faster connection. Waiting 1 hour to download a program like Adobe Acrobat is probably not an experience worth having on 56k. So you see, at some point content will necessitate the need for a bigger pipe. The hope is that BEFORE that happens, those faster pipes will have already made it to the average consumer at a price point that they average consumer is willing to pay.

But my point was that the service providers are EXPECTED to provide this service, but the marginal revenue generated from lower cost services, means that they need wide user adoption in order to recoup and offset the massive costs of infrastructure development. But content is moving far quicker than infrastructure at this point, and I was simply trying to drive in the issue of sustainability of the current business model. At some point, something major is going to have to change if we're to keep up.
rahvin112

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Horseshit.

As I posted on Slashdot. Sandy Utah has no such speed available. Utopia isn't in Sandy and won't ever be in Sandy while the current councilmen and Mayor are in office. I have spoken to them about it, they are happy they voted it down years ago because Utopia is going to have to call in the sales tax commitment from member cities.

I live in Sandy, in one the heart of the city and these speeds do NOT exist. Sandy is not in Utopia, nor will it ever be. Akamia's entire paper is garbage if the city listed with the fastest internet doesn't even have such a speed. The highest speed possible in Sandy is what is available through Comcast, currently the 16Mbs plan, unless you buy your own direct DS3 or higher.

The report is garbage, I'm glad it got publicity though, for the publicity has pointed out that it's an unreliable piece of crap that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
iansltx

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Re: Horseshit.

Are there any web hosts who call your city home? That's what appears to be the issue in a few US cities.
sonicmerlin

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said by rahvin112 See Profile :

As I posted on Slashdot. Sandy Utah has no such speed available. Utopia isn't in Sandy and won't ever be in Sandy while the current councilmen and Mayor are in office. I have spoken to them about it, they are happy they voted it down years ago because Utopia is going to have to call in the sales tax commitment from member cities.

I live in Sandy, in one the heart of the city and these speeds do NOT exist. Sandy is not in Utopia, nor will it ever be. Akamia's entire paper is garbage if the city listed with the fastest internet doesn't even have such a speed. The highest speed possible in Sandy is what is available through Comcast, currently the 16Mbs plan, unless you buy your own direct DS3 or higher.

The report is garbage, I'm glad it got publicity though, for the publicity has pointed out that it's an unreliable piece of crap that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
I read the slashdot comments too, and there were a few people explaining the innaccuracies as the result of Akamai not being able to localize their data to individual cities properly. You`re just being irrationally angry.

More importantly, could you explain what you`re referring to when you say "sales tax commitment" for UTOPIA member states?

And while maybe the councilmen and mayor are happy, I`m pretty darn sure the residents wouldn`t be happy if they understood what they were being deprived of.

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Bull'whooooy on average speed !

That fast access line is a CROCK ..!

Sure ..my UVerse 6Meg access gives me 5.7 Meg to my AT&T network connection point .. then my speed tests beyond that drop off by over 50% !!!!

I had EarthLink 1.5 Meg DSL for $29.95/mo.
Now I have AT&T 6Meg DSL for $35.00/mo.

It seems the faster the access line, the more you pay and the less you actually get across the Internet for the speed you think your paying for !!

It's very obvious to me ..that the overall Internet infrastructure really SUCKS and can not keep up with demand !
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Re: Bull'whooooy on average speed !

Not quite sure what you mean by your "AT&T Network Connection Point". If you mean that you get 5.7Mbps (approx. 730KBps), from your computer to modem, then either your network card is too slow (10Base-T) or the port on the modem/router you're using is slow (10Base-T). But if your speed test is showing 50% less than what you are paying for, then clearly you need to have a chat with AT&T about that, or you need to examine your networking hardware to see if it provides at least 100Base-T on both ends of the connection. Obviously, with people getting sustained speeds of 50mbps+, it's not the overall "Internet infrastructure" but rather the infrastructure to which you connect to the main backbones that is creating a bottleneck. But DSL is horrendous though. Ping times are uninspiring, and PPPoE authentication can be such a pain sometimes when router equipment doesn't play nice with the myriad of modems that are supplied by AT&T, whether SpeedStream, 2Wire, or otherwise.

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Re: Bull'whooooy on average speed !

Re: Bull'whooooy on average speed !

KingKuei6

My Network Connection Point is the first AT&T node my RG connects to [Southfiled, Mi]. My house LAN is 100Base-T and Wifi when I use it is currently clocking at 54Mbps. So, between my laptop and Southfield is pretty much what I planned for.

I have done progressively distance based speed tests and have seen Ping Times and throughput drop off to nearly 50% less than I see to Southfield.

I have used AT&T's speed test site and speed test.net.
The results are correspondlngly similar.
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double-speak

Maybe everyone is now getting "packet prioritized" and it just seems slower

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Sad Times For America

1. Lousy Broadband.

2. Banking meltdown.

3. Government run by corrupt officials.

Yes this is the end of America as we know it.

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Re: Sad Times For America

said by XBL2009 See Profile :

1. Lousy Broadband.

2. Banking meltdown.

3. Government run by corrupt officials.

Yes this is the end of America as we know it.
I disagree. The world is actually getting better. Corruption is being exposed and people are starting to realize its a lie all along. The world isn't much different then it was 50 years ago or 100 years ago. survival of the fittest we are still struggling and we always will. HD capacity increased to 2TB and soon 2.5TB and 3TB
the world is changing everyday and all you care is faster broadband connection? lol. Most people wouldn't notice the difference between 1mb and 100mbit! they are asleep.

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Re: Sad Times For America

You say most people but forget that different people have different needs. Some people are fine with the minivan approach and some need a truck.

Also America is becoming more and more a corporate state. Pretty soon we won't have a congress.
l33txp

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Re: Sad Times For America

Right.. and the last time we had an honest congress? Since when have they put anything to a vote that had more than their own personal interests at stake? I can't remember, been on this earth for 28 years now, will never change.

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said by XBL2009 See Profile :

You say most people but forget that different people have different needs. Some people are fine with the minivan approach and some need a truck.

Also America is becoming more and more a corporate state. Pretty soon we won't have a congress.
Not with my vote...
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