BBR User Gets Early Peek At Mexico's Telmex FTTH Chihuahua User Among First Telmex FTTH Customers The State of Fiber Broadband in MexicoAround February of 2011 I noticed that Mexico's largest phone company Telmex started laying fiber-optic cable around my neighborhood in the city of Chihuahua in the state of the same name. At the time I was not entirely sure for what reason, after some research I confirmed that it was for an FTTH (Fiber to the Home) roll-out, as suspected. Chihuahua is not as large or commercially important as other cities in Mexico such as Mexico City, Guadalajara, and Monterrey. Chihuahua is not as densely populated as any of the previously mentioned cities and it only has 819,543 inhabitants as of 2010, yet Telmex was rolling-out FTTH like in in other small cities, as I later discovered. In contrast, El Paso, Texas (the nearest US city) which has a similar population size -- is probably not going to be considered for FTTH builds in the near future. Households in El Paso are stuck with "vanilla" DSL and Cable, which only goes to about 15 Mbps. It is worth noting that there are three companies that have already rolled-out FTTH in Mexico: Iusacell, Totalplay (sister company of Iusacell) and Axtel. Iusacells service is already available in very limited areas of Chihuahua City, but it is aimed at small and medium size businesses at high cost. Although, I suspect that prices will go down once Telmex gets their service deployed at full capacity and Totalplay, which is targeted towards households, distributes the service their sister company Iusacell offers. On the other hand, Axtel has no plans to broaden their market beyond the "big 3" which is a shame because they are the only ISP that currently offers 100 Mbps symetrical. Unfortunately, their prices are still very high for their 100 Mbps service, around the equivalent of $200 USD a month for the symmetrical 100/100 Mbps. 
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Axtel's service roll-out is very limited since it only covers the most profitable areas of the most profitable cities in Mexico. Iusacell/Totaplay service more areas, but they also confine their services to high profit areas. While Telmex's roll-out isn't going to cover full cities any time soon, it is by far the most aggressive roll-out of them all. Telmex's roll-out is limited to one central area here in Chihuahua City, which only covers around a 4Km (about 2.5 miles) radius. It is a good start, but a far cry from servicing the entire city. So that about sums up the current state of fiber-optic service in Mexico. I have to point out: I thought the fiber roll-out had stopped here, but it hasn't. They are still laying fiber in new areas, some of which have underground cabling. The Telmex FTTH InstallationTelmex started installing FTTH in other cities around 3 months ago and here in Chihuahua about a month and a half ago. As soon as I found out that they had started, I gave Telmex a call and sure enough it was available in my area, without wasting a second, I requested the service for me and my girlfriend. The installation was extremely easy compared to their competitors. Iusacell and Axtel have a ring shaped area that goes around a part of the city and if you are not within 500 meters (about a third of a mile) of that ring you are out of luck. They also fuse a new fiber to every household from what I have heard. In contrast, with Telmex the fiber is already laid outside of every house that is served by the central office, and installing the fiber on those houses doesn't require the installer to splice the fiber since it has already been done. All they need to do is show up with a pre-terminated fiber cable on both ends and make a hole in the wall to connect the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) to the terminal on a pole. Here's some photos of my install, if you're interested. This one shows the cover of a splice enclosure and a terminal, the terminal is the one on the left: 
This one shows the splicer and the fiber optic splice enclosure: 
Now we fast forward into my home installation, this is the pre-terminated cable 
They have different cable lengths, but they all come pre-terminated already, so connecting the ONT to terminal on the pole is very easy. Here's pic of the terminal on the pole: 
Here is one with the installation crew members connecting the cable to the terminal: 
Telmex did not lay the fiber themselves, they had another company do it for them. So I was not really all that surprised they lacked the equipment to properly test the integrity of the fiber. They actually had to resort to connecting the ONT outside just to see if the fiber was lit or not. Here is a pic of the ONT when they used it to test the fiber outside: 
The ONT got a fiber signal, so they continued with the installation, here is the installer on the roof: 
After that, they drilled a hole in the wall and ran the cable through it, this is where they terminated the fiber. From another fiber cable goes to the ONT, notice how the copper installation is left intact. Fiber on the left, and POTS / DSL on the right: 
For now they let you keep the DSL service, and the land-line still works from the twisted pair, but they said that they will eventually take all the copper lines down. Finally, here are some shots of the ONT. 


Service Quality and CostThere are currently three tiers available from Telmex, and they are all DSL; they have not even officially rolled-out ADSL2+ yet, which is what most people will end up with. ADSL2+ trials started in early 2010 and they have yet to make the service official. Telmexs current home internet service plans are 1 Mbps for $400 pesos (about $35 USD), 2 Mbps for $600 pesos (about $52 USD) and 5 Mbps for $999 pesos (about $86 USD, all prices include tax). It is rumored that as soon as Telmex rolls out the service in an official capacity, they will offer 20 Mbps, 40 Mbps, and 100 Mbps plans with no price changes to their FTTH customers. Now, regardless of which tier you have, once they install fiber at your home the service is free and limited to 20 mbits until they go official. Telmex would go from one of the most expensive per Mbit providers on the planet to one on par with Europe's best. I will update BBR once the FTTH roll-out is official. Here is a pic of the pamphlet that advertises FTTH as being of "no extra charge" to your current service: 
The first thing I did was to determine if it was a gigabit ONT. Sadly, it is not. It comes with 100 Mbps Ethernet only, so speeds greater than 100 Mbps will not be possible with this ONT, which suggests Telmex has no plans of offering more than 100 Mbps any time soon. The ONT has Wireless N included, but at my girlfriends house I could only connect as "G" for some reason (did not even try it at my house). No biggie, I know for sure it does not have MIMO anyway. Therefore, I was not planning on using it as my main router and I quickly disabled WiFi at my and my girlfriend's house. The ONT has very limited options; it does not even have a bridge mode, which means you have to establish the PPPoE connection on the ONT no matter what. The firmware on the ONT looks very basic. I suspect Alcatel-Lucent did not have much time to add a pretty GUI; this might change in the future. As for speeds, the download speeds are extremely consistent; I can get a sustained download of 20 Mbps with no problem whatsoever, or as some applications show, around 2400 kbps. I also noticed about a 12 ms latency reduction. The upload is supposed to be 4 Mbps, and at my girlfriends house I had no problem getting Speedtest.net to hit 4 Mbps every now and then. But at my house, I have yet to hit 4 Mbps. I get anywhere from 1.5 to 3 mbps on uploads. Here are a few pics from Speedtest.net. The first highlights my DSL service results, the second FTTH results; the graphs clearly show when FTTH takes over: 

For those wondering what kind of equipment is being used for this roll-out, I have heard that the equipment consists of Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent and Tyco brands. Cisco 7609-S i hear is the brains of the network, with centrals interconected at 720 Gbps. Tyco gear i think is the one being used for the outdoor stuff and Alcatel-Lucent provides the ONT. If you are in Mexico and have no clue if the service is available in your area, you can call Telmex. They are being somewhat slow with the installations because they basically have to convince all the households in a designated neighborhood to let them install new cabling. If you or your neighbors call them they will rush the installation, otherwise you might be in for a long wait. That is why so far I am the only one in my neighborhood with the service installed; otherwise I might have been waiting until they got around to the neighborhood where I live. This article is part of an effort to solicit paid content from the Broadband Reports community. If you'd like to participate, please contact us.
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Very Cool
Very cool article.
I've heard that although Telmex maintains a near monopoly, they actually provide very good service and consistently upgrade their network. | |
|  |  | | Re: Very Cool All I know is that, when I called home from Cozumel in 2008 and was roaming on Telcel (Telmex's wireless division), they had the best-sounding GSM network I've ever heard. Pretty much landline quality. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Very Cool Yep that's a Full Rate GSM codec for you and by the looks of it your carrier back in the states must be at&t which is known to use the half rate codec which does not sound as good.
T-mobile on the other hand with less subscribers can manage to use the FR codec in most cases but they may not have it for long if the acquisition goes through. | |
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|  |  |  | | Re: Very Cool Ahorra la pregunta es si ellos tienen "caps" o sea un limite de cuante puede a bajar durante el mes. Yo tengo AT&T U-Verse y supuestamente el maximo cada mes es 250 GB para bajar lo que yo quiero. -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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|  |  |  |  | | Re: Very Cool said by Boricua65:Ahorra la pregunta es si ellos tienen "caps" o sea un limite de cuante puede a bajar durante el mes. Yo tengo AT&T U-Verse y supuestamente el maximo cada mes es 250 GB para bajar lo que yo quiero. Human Translation:
Now the question is if they have any "caps" or a limit of how much you can download in a month. I have AT&T U-Verse and supposedly the maximum each month is 250GB to download what I want. | |
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 hullboyPremium join:2000-12-21 Oakland, CA | Awww man!!! I get to read about ANOTHER FTTH build out that's no where near me. But I'm happy for that guy (and drooling over his 20Mb service for $35/month).
Although he'll probably get a price adjustment one the service goes live. But their 100Mb service will probably still be cheaper than the $78+/month I pay Comcast for 25Mb.
Damn!
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|  |  | | Re: Awww man!!! said by hullboy:I get to read about ANOTHER FTTH build out that's no where near me. But I'm happy for that guy (and drooling over his 20Mb service for $35/month).
Although he'll probably get a price adjustment one the service goes live. But their 100Mb service will probably still be cheaper than the $78+/month I pay Comcast for 25Mb.
Damn!
I think I'm gonna move to Kansas City no kiddin, heck where i live in texas the fastest u can get is 10mbps and ya u pay 70 for that alone if u want it haha
these cable companys have the usa in a choke hold, if the goverment really wants to create jobs THEN PUT FIBER OUT, cable is gettin to a point where it will be maxed out.., why the heck stay with it????, fiber has benifits far greater not to mention the companys here might be movin just because we dont have it lol
Unless your a big corp of course..., but that shouldnt be the case i mean how the heck does mexico....mexico come on their gettin it way better than us...that alone tells u as a country we have some major probs, and its all gonna start with elections i know who im voting for and its not obama! | |
|  |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: Awww man!!! You can do 110/15 on cable...it's not maxed out at 10M. Then again, fiber rocks... | |
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 DaarkenRara AvisesPremium join:2005-01-12 Southwest LA kudos:1 | Its nice to see technology down there. I love how the service truck looks similar to police vehicles found in other countries. -- Getting it Done. | |
|  |  | | Re: Its nice to see technology down there. So why are all of the service vehicles in Mexico so small? When I visited Mexico last the cable company techs all drove Classic VW Bugs with ladder racks on them. Looks kind of funny to see a bug with a ladder twice as long as the bug is running down the road. | |
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If that's not a blatant example of how far down the shitter this country has gone, I don't know what is.
How can Americans claim to be so superior to everyone else when even Mexico is now beating them at things? The United States has long looked down on Mexico. At the rate the U.S. is going, it won't be long before Americans start sneaking into Mexico and become those illegal immigrants they rage about.  | |
|  |  OmegaDisplaced OhioanPremium join:2002-07-30 Cheyenne, WY | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by 45612019:If that's not a blatant example of how far down the shitter this country has gone, I don't know what is.
Oh yea, Mexico has a 1-up on the US. Ok, so some areas can get fiber. Well guess what, I'll take my 15mbit cable over 25mbit fiber if it meant I didn't have to worry about being caught in the middle of a drug war while running errands.
I'll take the US (with all it's problems) over Mexico any day. -- What smells like blue? | |
|  |  |  PToN join:2001-10-04 Houston, TX | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. Unemployment rate is lower in Mexico than in the US..
Mexico: 2 US: 0..? | |
|  |  |  |  heat84Bit Torrent Apologist join:2004-03-11 Fort Lauderdale, FL | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by PToN:Unemployment rate is lower in Mexico than in the US..
Mexico: 2 US: 0..? You forgot soccer. They beat us every time. Mexico: 3 US: 0 -- Bit Torrent is my DVR. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. Please show me an example in the US where police chief after police chief gets slaughtered or where journalists are routinely killed. | |
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| Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by biochemistry:Please show me an example in the US where police chief after police chief gets slaughtered or where journalists are routinely killed. The really bad problems in Mexico are centered around the border towns with the US. If you go south out of those states then mexico is not that bad. All mexican's get public healthcare as it is written into the constitution.
The only reasons to why people would rather live in the US is cost of living (houses/cars/food) is cheaper in the US, wages are higher in the US with no education, and overall it safer in our country than in Mexico. Mexico is very divided in classes so the poor will never become rich. It is also volitile as the rich or well off can become poor very easily and never be able to get back up the ladder like you can in the US.
Now is mexico a horrible 3rd world country of savages? No. It is place where you can stil have a good life and get a decent job to support your family. They have schools and colleges that your kids can attend just like in the US.
I would say that most of those that want to come to the US are those that were well off, failed, and want to start over which is much easier to do in the US or they just want a higher paying job than they can get in Mexico. -- ...brought to you by Carl's Jr. | |
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 |  |  gorrillamcdWell, that was interesting. join:2010-04-01 mexico | Don't knock it until you try it.
I've lived here in Mexico 2 years and nothing has ever happened. I live in Ensenada about an hour south of Tijuana. We have one of the lowest crime rates in the country (and lower than many US cities as well). I've been pulled over a couple times and the police have always been fair (never been asked for a bribe). You've got to keep in mind that you only get part of the story. Normal life like the vast majority of people here live doesn't make for good news ratings, so you don't see it.
There are tons of things that Mexico does way better than the states. A lot of them are non-tangible (importance of family and friends, general friendliness, patriotism (without being overly-arrogant!), etc.). -- I'm an IT technician with a lot to learn, taught by viewers like you! | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by gorrillamcd:There are tons of things that Mexico does way better than the states. A lot of them are non-tangible (importance of family and friends, general friendliness, patriotism (without being overly-arrogant!), etc.). That is one of the main reasons why I didn't want to return. I am looking forward to retiring down there in about ten or twelve years, though. -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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|  |  |  |  gorrillamcdWell, that was interesting. join:2010-04-01 mexico | I figured I'd give some references to show you guys so you know I'm not just making up what I said.
»www.bajainsider.com/baja-califor···ning.htm
The link above is a website geared towards Americans in Baja California. It also includes an abridged copy of the latest Travel Warning for US citizens and a link to the full thing. The Travel Warning provides a much more balanced viewpoint than you'll find in the news. The right-hand column has a synopsis of the situation as it pertains to Baja California and is a good read.
Here's a link to the official Travel Warning (Also linked at the page above): »travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_t···440.html
Don't just take in everything you hear. Spend a little time and educate yourself. Then, come and enjoy some of the best food in the world.  -- I'm an IT technician with a lot to learn, taught by viewers like you! | |
|  |  |  |  |  japPremium join:2003-08-10 038xx 3 edits | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. For God's sake! You're going to ruin the place! Keep it down or MX will become over run with sweaty gringos waving money around like drunken sailors thinking everyone is their whore. Sheesh.
Pedaled my bike solo from Piedras Negras/Eagle Pass, TX to Guadalajara to Puerto Vallarta to Mazatlan. Excellent time. Five weeks and never locked the bike. Especially enjoyed the Guadalajara to Mascota leg and southern Nayarit. Wouldn't recognize the place now. It was before the troubles though countless Texans told me I'd be dead within 2 days. Bizarre perspective.
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 |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | said by 45612019:If that's not a blatant example of how far down the shitter this country has gone, I don't know what is.
How can Americans claim to be so superior to everyone else when even Mexico is now beating them at things? The United States has long looked down on Mexico. At the rate the U.S. is going, it won't be long before Americans start sneaking into Mexico and become those illegal immigrants they rage about.  There is way more FTTH in the US than in Mexico. And STD of living in Mexico is way lower than the US. But if you feel otherwise, I suggest you move there for awhile and see the differences for yourself. -- Record your speedtest.net results in DSLReports SpeedWave »www.speedtest.net/wave/afe201cb84d45c88 | |
|  |  |  Kamus join:2011-01-27 El Paso, TX 1 edit | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by Romney2012: I suggest you move there for awhile and see the differences for yourself. Agreed. If you had money it USED to be a cool place to live regardless of it's faults. But these days the middle class isn't doing so well either since we're caught up in a war-zone. Extortion, kidnappings, assassinations have become so common here that people are beginning to get a bit desensitized to the whole thing.
Just yesterday a man was shot at point blank by a group of armed men inside an Applebee's here. They actually went all the way in to where he was sitting to shoot him. The reason? He was a victim of extortion, and probably refused to pay what they asked for. This happens every day, at any place. (wealthy neighborhoods are not exempt by any means) It happens every day, at any time, anywhere. And while people are very freaked up, you would think it would stop them from visiting the places where people are murdered. But this is not the case. The Denny's a guy was also murdered inside at point blank is as packed as ever, and i bet you so will that Applebee's. The truth is, if that was the case we'd have nowhere left to go. Just about every street has had something happen.
10 years ago, if you told me this was going to happen here i would've never believed it, but it's happening and many small to mid business have been forced to close due to extortion, and many people have fled because of the kidnappings. The whole thing is a bit surreal, and just by going about your business you wouldn't even know what's going on... unless you happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
So yeah, i love FTTH, but i'd think twice about moving here (and most of the country for that matter) just for the sake of decent internet service. (in limited areas!)
*EDIT adding a bit more since i touched the subject* This violence used to be mainly in my state, but these days it extends to just about every state in Mexico. For those interested you can always check out www.blogdelnarco.com But be warned, they don't censor anything, so if you don't have the stomach just steer clear of it. | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. Eso no me convence. Yo se el peligro que estas en Mexico pero me encanta Guadalajara. | |
|  |  |  |  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by Boricua65:Eso no me convence. Yo se el peligro que estas en Mexico pero me encanta Guadalajara. Google translation:
That does not convince me. I know the danger you are in Mexico but I love Guadalajara. -- Record your speedtest.net results in DSLReports SpeedWave »www.speedtest.net/wave/afe201cb84d45c88 | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by Romney2012:Google translation:
That does not convince me. I know the danger you are that is in Mexico but I love Guadalajara. Corrected translation. -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. The bigger problem is, your Spanish does not appear to be grammatically correct in this sentence. (Puerta Rican spanish variant?) If the sentiment needs to be 'it', why would you write the familiar 'tu' form of the verb estar after the que(?) | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by pepe7:The bigger problem is, your Spanish does not appear to be grammatically correct in this sentence. (Puerta Rican spanish variant?) If the sentiment needs to be 'it', why would you write the familiar 'tu' form of the verb estar after the que(?) Si usted sabe escribirlo mejor hacelo usted. Y el pais mio no es Puerta es Puerto Rico . -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. OK, so we agree. Your "boricuan" Spanish grammar stinks and so does my orthography . | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Mexico now has better Internet connectivity than the U.S. said by pepe7:OK, so we agree. Your "boricuan" Spanish grammar stinks and so does my orthography . It's all good . I'm sorta rusty writing in spanish vs speaking it. -- Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben
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 gorrillamcdWell, that was interesting. join:2010-04-01 mexico | Better router too! Wireless N and MIMO. That's way better than the 2-Wire modems/routers that come with the Infinitum (Telmex DSL) service (the ones I've seen anyways). If it doesn't default to WEP security on the wireless end, then it's a major security enhancement too.
I wonder if there's a site to check where their next Fiber rollouts are planned. -- I'm an IT technician with a lot to learn, taught by viewers like you! | |
|  |  Kamus join:2011-01-27 El Paso, TX 1 edit | Re: Better router too! (not really...) said by gorrillamcd:Wireless N and MIMO. That's way better than the 2-Wire modems/routers that come with the Infinitum (Telmex DSL) service (the ones I've seen anyways). If it doesn't default to WEP security on the wireless end, then it's a major security enhancement too.
I wonder if there's a site to check where their next Fiber rollouts are planned. Oh, you missundesrtood. What i meant was it's that it doesn't have MIMO. Which is fine in my situation since i already use an ASUS RT-N56U. And the ONT's, like the DSL modems, still has WEP by default. | |
|  |  |  gorrillamcdWell, that was interesting. join:2010-04-01 mexico | Re: Better router too! (not really...) Oops, will read more carefully next time.
It's a bummer for the people that don't know any better that WEP is still default too. Their neighbors might be getting some nice high-speed internet for free. -- I'm an IT technician with a lot to learn, taught by viewers like you! | |
|  |  |  |  Kamus join:2011-01-27 El Paso, TX | Re: Better router too! (not really...) said by gorrillamcd:Oops, will read more carefully next time.
It's a bummer for the people that don't know any better that WEP is still default too. Their neighbors might be getting some nice high-speed internet for free. No kidding, for my old DSL huawei modem (provided by Telmex) it took me like 5 minutes to find a password generator for the thing. It worked by simply looking at the MAC address of the modem, It would then generate the right WEP key. Not an issue for me at all since i use my own router. But i'd say 95% or more of the DSL customers here (and there's a LOT of them, i've done wifi scans on the streets with my phone and it's a Telmex world here in Chihuahua...) use the default Telmex SSID, and most likley the default password too. | |
|  |  |  |  |  japPremium join:2003-08-10 038xx | Re: Better router too! (not really...) Leaving wifi open is friendly. Just prioritize your traffic and let the others use slack. I can't comprehend all the paranoia around it. | |
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| I have FTTH at my apt. I live in rural mercer county and my village already have FTTH and the pricing and speed is a joke and they just upgraded the speed and little higher speed:
High Speed (4 Mbps Download / 2 Mbps Upload): $34.95 - This is our base package that is still robust enough for many of your needs. Ultra High Speed (7 Mbps Download / 5 Mbps Upload): $39.95 - Blazing speed. What can't you do with this? Extreme High Speed (15 Mbps Download / 5 Mbps Upload): $64.95 - This package is tailored for those who require the very best connectivity.
While TWC in the same village offer lower pricing and higher speed:
Wideband Internet (up to 50 Mbps) with WiFi Home Network Service $99.95/mo. For 12 Months Road Runner® Broadband Extreme (up to 30 Mbps) $49.95/mo. For 12 Months Road Runner® Broadband Turbo (up to 15 Mbps) with PowerBoost® $39.95/mo. For 12 Months Road Runner® Broadband (up to 10 Mbps) $34.95/mo. For 12 Months Road Runner® Basic (up to 2 Mbps) $29.95/mo. For 12 Months | |
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| Re: I have FTTH at my apt. said by hullboy:Wow, that FTTH pricing is pretty bad. Is that Home Town Cable in Ohio? 5M upload @ $39.95/month standalone is incredibly good - and when you consider the population density, its fantastic.
How much did the taxpayers contribute to achieve that price?
(Answer: About $9 million to Wabash Mutual Telco and HomeTown Cable, to service a county of 15K households, of which nearly all, already had broadband. Your tax dollars at work.) | |
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|  |  | | Re: Think of the megabits!!! I dont think they need to cap any fiber for somebody who only uses the net for email and surf a bit. They should cap somebody who downloads software,music, large data backups,movies. | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Think of the megabits!!! I was just being sarcastic. Just taking a jab at all the cap happy isp's and their greed. No reason for caps on fiber. | |
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|  | | Broadband in El Paso, TX El Paso, TX, is about 200+ miles north of Chihuahua.
Broadband in El Paso is provided by AT&T and Time Warner. AT&T has U-verse deployments here in some areas of town. TW is pretty much everywhere. No FIOS, no other competition. Earthlink and AOL used to provide service over TW's network but I don't think they do any more.
Ft. Bliss is serviced by another provider, forget who. | |
|  |  | | Re: Broadband in El Paso, TX said by Don Slade:El Paso, TX, is about 200+ miles north of Chihuahua.
Broadband in El Paso is provided by AT&T and Time Warner. AT&T has U-verse deployments here in some areas of town. TW is pretty much everywhere. No FIOS, no other competition. Earthlink and AOL used to provide service over TW's network but I don't think they do any more.
Ft. Bliss is serviced by another provider, forget who. im surprised suddenlink aint out their, they cover quite a bit of west texas, of course thought im about 200 miles west in a town called mineral wells lol | |
|  |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: Broadband in El Paso, TX SL bought former Cox systems in TX. TWC kept theirs. TWC serves some small towns, but most of their systems are in/clustered around lrge ities, of which El Paso is one. | |
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 jslikThat just happenedPremium join:2006-03-17 | Really? Wait, I thought the cable de-regulation that Texas led the nation in was supposed to bring about all sorts of competition, increased speeds/service, and lower prices???
You mean AT&T wasn't *exactly* telling the truth? Wow... -- If they told you wolverines make good house pets, would you believe them? | |
|  |  | | Re: Really? said by jslik:Wait, I thought the cable de-regulation that Texas led the nation in was supposed to bring about all sorts of competition, increased speeds/service, and lower prices???
You mean AT&T wasn't *exactly* telling the truth? Wow... Of course it was and it did. Who are you going to believe, the politicians and cable companies or your lying eyes ??
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|  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Only in areas without ATT/VZ/TWC/Comcast as the only ISPs... | |
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 axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | Good old Carlos Slim Giving something back to the Mexican people who made him the richest man in the world  | |
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| $$ They probably got a good deal on the equipment since most of our country wasn't using it. It probably resembled a garage sale... "How much for these ONT's?" "Those old things? I'll let you have them for a buck a piece." "How much for this spoil of old coax?" "Woah, that's not for sale!" | |
|  |  | | Re: $$ said by MonkeyLick78:They probably got a good deal on the equipment since most of our country wasn't using it. It probably resembled a garage sale... "How much for these ONT's?" "Those old things? I'll let you have them for a buck a piece." "How much for this spoil of old coax?" "Woah, that's not for sale!" No, that sounds like an AT&T U-Verse deployment :P | |
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 | | Oh Oh Mexico...Nice Place to Live, Bad Internet Connectivity I'm a gringo who moved my family and mother to Mexico five years ago. Its booming these days and the drug war is way over hyped by the media. Bad stuff happens everywhere and the drug war here is no exception. In our safe little town in Mexico we have Telmex Infinium service DSL....it sucks. When it works its great but its up and down and up and down,and seriously affecting how I do business. I tried a local WISP but he gets his Internet from Telmex and I went back to Telmex. I cant imagine why Telmex chose Chihuahua for FTTH, Chapala would have been a better choice since its home to the new digital media center and 20,000 expats who are on the Internet mucho. | |
|  |  Kamus join:2011-01-27 El Paso, TX 1 edit | Re: Oh Oh Mexico...Nice Place to Live, Bad Internet Connectivity Overhyped? Try this on for size:
~40,000 murders since the "war on drugs" started. And that's not even counting the "desaparecidos".
Probably where you are at it's not so bad. But if you lived here in Chihuahua you wouldn't be saying that at all. Murders are a daily occurrence here.
Just 2 days ago an acquaintance of a friend of mine got executed in a very public place. That's on a weekend with hundreds of people there:
»www.tiempo.com.mx/notas/82544
And the day before that, 5 people were massacred here, also leaving an 11 year old wounded while they were at it:
»www.blogdelnarco.com/2011/08/com···-en.html
and the day before that, the Applebee's incident:
»www.oem.com.mx/elmexicano/notas/n2182659.htm
No Official news today, which is odd. considering my girlfriend couldn't go to sleep because she lost her sleep because she heard a gunfight very near her house. (didn't make the news... like some I've heard myself)
So listen. I'm very glad Chapala is not a war-zone like Chihuahua (or Nuevo Leon, or Tamaulipas or Sinaloa...). But do your research a little bit before you spout nonsense. If anything this war is WAY under-hyped. We hear more about soldiers dead in Iraq, and the number of dead US soldiers there doesn't even come close to the amount of people that have been killed here. And that's an actual war.
Now, back on topic: As far as Telmex picking Chihuahua, they didn't just pick Chihuahua. It's a lot more cities, but the coverage is limited in those cities. I know for a fact that Guadajalara, Monterrey, Juarez, Merida and Chihuahua already have service. That said, the number of cities is much larger than that. But again, it won't cover whole cities any time soon, just the most profitable areas. Now, the coverage Telmex has, even before launching the service, already dwarfs Axtel and Totalplay's coverage. (I'm hoping Axtel and Totalplay catch up... SPECIALLY Axtel, since i'm already hearing horror stories about Totalplay)
Anyway, i'll leave you with another note of this "overhyped" war: »www.entrelineas.com.mx/notas.php?id_n=133562
229 women have been murdered in the state so far this year. That's just the women... the men count ends up being usually in the 2-3k yearly figure, just in this state.
--update-- Just as i showed you those news, the "cerve" (the place where my friend's acquaintance got killed) has been host of another killing spree. This time gunmen opened fire on 4 men, killing 3:
»www.entrelineas.com.mx/notas.php?id_n=133586 | |
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 Keiro join:2005-10-25 Bakersfield, CA | O_O Holy balls, sir.
Damn it, now I really wish I hadn't gone with Megacable and just sucked it up and moved to an area that has FTTH.
I'm STILL waiting for my damned modem, as I don't have the money to cross the border, grab a Motorola SB5101 to use on my service here.
I'm honestly pissed because the cable installers from Megacable did not have the modem ready on-hand like they should've. And that it'll be next week or so before they come back here with the modem so I can use my router to provide wireless access to my laptop anywhere in my house over here in San Luis Rio Colorado.
So rage-inducing... but I'll definitely keep this in mind the next time I decide to move around in Mexico... because hell, I want that FTTH service!
Edit: Oops? I just saw where this was posted... not sure if that was intentional when posting a response?
Edit 2: Oh, derp. Just had to check the article again to see my post there. -facepalm.-
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|  | | That ONT sure seems simpler then Verizon's That ONT connects up as easy as a wireless router-why then does Verizon make things so complicated? | |
|  |  Keiro join:2005-10-25 Bakersfield, CA | Re: That ONT sure seems simpler then Verizon's Good quesetion. Now that you've pointed it out, I'm wondering the same. | |
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