Band Leaks Own Track, Blames Evil Pirates When record labels think Internet users are stupid... Last week, a track from the band BuckCherry leaked on to BitTorrent well ahead of the album's full released. Almost immediately, the band's label, Atlantic Records, leaked a press release proclaiming they were outraged over the leak. "Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first," the band is quoted as saying. Which is great, except for the fact that as Torrent Freak notes, the band leaked the track themselves to drum up publicity.
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  trebzon
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Grandville, MI | Ooops! Oops! Got caught did we? | |
|  knightmbEverybody Lies
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Franklin, TN | Drama Kings/Queens? At least that was my first thought. If it's true they leaked their own music out, then started a big public outrage about it, only to bring attention to their band; sounds more like a marketing strategy thought up by their manager to me.
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| | | Happens all the time Yawn, every major band out there does this all the time and blames pirates. Buckcherry just got caught with their pants down. (hopefully not behind someone's bushes in the garden...oh wait, they don't work for Verizon...  ) | |
| |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: This deserves... 2006 called. They want their image back. Linked and displayed properly too.  | |
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trebzon
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Grandville, MI | Ooops! Got caught did we? That is a bit damaging. | |
| | | Hook, Line, and Sinker It appears that both Torrent Freak and BBR have fallen for this. I am sure that BuckCherry and their management appreciate the free publicity. | |
| |  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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kudos:5 | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker said by battleop:It appears that both Torrent Freak and BBR have fallen for this. I am sure that BuckCherry and their management appreciate the free publicity. Do you have information to the contrary or are you just not buying it?
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| | | | | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker It's a publicity stunt. As long as people cover this stuff record companies and bands will do it. If they stop covering it they won't do it. It's free advertising. | |
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| | | It may be free publicity, but does hearing about this little stunt make you want to buy their albums? | |
| | | | | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Me, personally? No, but if I were a fan of BuckCherry I might. | |
| | | |  james
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CWCville USA | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker So, if a band you liked, released a press statement that they were mad at pirates, and was stupid enough to say that those downloading the song weren't their "fans", that would make you want to buy the new album more?
If any band I liked did that crap, I would make sure they never saw a penny of mine until they did something I approved of to make up for it.
Yeah, I'm only one person, but if enough people stop buying things in response to publicity stunts, or better yet spend even less in response to them, they will stop doing them. | |
| | | | | | | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker said by james:So, if a band you liked, released a press statement that they were mad at pirates, and was stupid enough to say that those downloading the song weren't their "fans", that would make you want to buy the new album more? If any band I liked did that crap, I would make sure they never saw a penny of mine until they did something I approved of to make up for it. Yeah, I'm only one person, but if enough people stop buying things in response to publicity stunts, or better yet spend even less in response to them, they will stop doing them. A band I liked once did that. I no longer listen to them and I helped them to lose sales - I sold my collection of their CDs to a used CD shop. You might have heard of them, they go by Metallica. | |
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CWCville USA | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker I 2nd that, they pissed me off so much that I can barely stand to listen to them even for free. | |
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Jacksonville, FL | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker I 3rd that, no longer buy or listen to them If I can help it. Its sad, but I am voting with my wallet. | |
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|  Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium
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Dallas, TX | What needs to happen here with them is a kind of reverse
Streisand Effect. Instead of something that someone wanting
to ban gets more widespread, coverage of their cheap
publicity stunt ought to completely disappear from the Web.
This means torrents, too. 0 seeds and 0 peers and no
web coverage, and everyone will either ignore them or
say "Buckcherry who?"
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| |  exocet_cmYou delete it, I'll find itPremium
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kudos:2 | said by battleop:It appears that both Torrent Freak and BBR have fallen for this. I am sure that BuckCherry and their management appreciate the free publicity. Fallen for what, broadband/tech related news?
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| | | | | Re: Hook, Line, and Sinker Nope, the publicity stunt. | |
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| | It was so easy to track. The RIAA is probably fuming right now. Ha. | |
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: It was so easy to track. said by insomniac84:The RIAA is probably fuming right now. Ha. I'm surprised more people aren't commenting about this regarding the RIAA issue here. For those that don't know, Atlantic is the "A" in WEA..."Warner Electra Atlantic Corporation". These guys are a major player in RIAA. So they bust people all the time for getting music on torrents, but it's OK for them to seed it out there??? This type of action should put a stop to their BS lawsuits, but it won't get hardly noticed and next week will be forgotten. | |
| | |  rosco35Premium
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kudos:1 | Re: It was so easy to track. said by JonHB:So they bust people all the time for getting music on torrents, but it's OK for them to seed it out there??? If they hold the copyright, then yes, they can seed it out there. | |
| | | | | | Re: It was so easy to track. Yes, but by being the original seeding source, they're the ones giving it away -- which they have every right to do. The trouble is that they trotted out the RIAA and cried foul right afterward. If they ever tried to sue anyone for redistributing that song, I hope the judge slaps them appropriately for wasting tax payer money, as they've all but made the work public domain.
The way I see it, they knowingly put the song on a P2P network that was well known for redistributing files of this sort. While it's not explicit permission, as they're the copyright holder, that's pretty strong implicit permission to redistribute it -- even stronger if you knew it was originally seeded by the copyright holder. | |
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1 edit | lol "Honestly, we hate it when this s*** happens, because we want our FANS to have any new songs first," the band is quoted as saying.
Well if this is true, all your fans do have them now | |
| | wev567
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Pittsburgh, PA | Re: lol Exactly - I wouldn't torrent stuff I didn't like. | |
| | emptywigHuh? What?Premium
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Pasadena, TX | For real.
Honestly, I hate it when bands say stuff that proves that they are idiots and morons.
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| | Never heard of em... And after I click on the "Post" button, I'll promptly go on with my life and forget they ever existed... "Cherry Coke?" "Cherry Cheesecake?" "Budweiser?" Whaddeva...  | |
|  GooberPremium
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Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | What a bunch of Crazy Bit**es they are . . . | |
| | | No, publicize it! If they want publicity, let's give it to them. Except, instead of publicizing their music, let's publicize the fact that these assholes posted their own music online, yet they blamed it on those evil pirates.
This would be like you walking into a store and having the owner hand you something and tell you not to worry about paying for it. Just take it, he says. Then he publicly states that the item was stolen from his store, only to be caught on the security camera videotape handing it to you.
And, in addition to spreading this story far and wide, let's urge everyone who hears about this to do everything in their power to sink their careers. Wipe every single copy of their music off the Net, take down fan sites, and, most importantly of all, don't buy any of their music or other merchandise. Send them back to playing the bar circuit in their hometown.
I don't approve of piracy, but I approve of false accusations of piracy even less, and these jerks need to pay the price for doing that. | |
|  mrchrisOut and aroundPremium
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North Babylon, NY | It's just ONE track.. So who gives a shit, it's not like they are giving the whole damn CD away for free....so piss off Atlantic!
At least this will give fans a taste of what's to come...or what is stopping Buckcherry from setting up a Myspace page with a few listenable tracks? | |
| | | | Re: It's just ONE track.. That's not the point. The point is they leaked the track themselves and blamed it on piracy when they knew damn well that wasn't the case.
Kinda makes you wonder how often tracks are posted by the bands or labels, doesn't it? | |
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| | Suckers! The real ones are the people who posted reports of this stuff. Isn't this their game plan in the first place? To make some headlines. Well, did they succeed? | |
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3 edits | Re: Suckers! RTFA... they seeded their OWN music, then blamed 'pirates' for helping spread it...
At the end of the day, that makes the people who got free music the winners, and the people who posted this? They sure as hell ain't suckers... They just alerted pirates to the presence of yet another piece of free music out there, and with any luck, retailers in my local chinatown may very well have a $2 copy waiting for me........
Well, when you seed something on a p2p network, that's what's supposed to happen, innit? Mass distribution. You see, BitTorrent wasn't designed to spread copyrighted content illegally, it was meant to help open-source software spread faster, without hammering centralized servers with the load of a few million people dl'ing a distro simultaneously.
Any band that does makes this kind of $hit go down, deserves to have their a$$ busted in every forum on the 'net, end of story, and to have EACH album they ever produced pirated and sold in the black market....
Now, I say, WALK THE PLANK!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| | | | | Re: Suckers! You RTFA. They wanted to make some headlines. What the heck do we have here, HEADLINE HEADLINE | |
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1 edit | Re: Suckers! Yes, a headline that exposes their pathetic attempt at buying publicity, and then turning back on the very protocol they used to buy the publicity. They used BitTorrent to go public, fine.. but when they decided, at the same time, to issue a press release attributing that release to piracy, I think the torrent community in general takes offense to that. Use BitTorrent, but at least have the balls to admit it... Instead, they got 'caught with their pants down', which I'm sure have the MAFIAA's panties in a bunch here over the LEAK.......
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| | | | | | | Re: Suckers! Right. I think they wanted to create "buzz" for their new album by getting that track out there, then stating that it was pirated. That makes it "forbidden fruit", so people would want it. As far as they were concerned, that should have been the end of the story. They didn't count on someone discovering the fact that they leaked the track themselves. That makes them look like a bunch of liars.
And what does it say about a band when they have to leak their own music? What, it wasn't good enough that someone would have wanted to share a pre-release copy?
I think this was a publicity stunt that went wrong. And that kind of publicity you don't want. | |
| | | | | | | | Re: Suckers! The question is whether Buckcherry actually said what the label claims, or if the label made stuff up and Buckcherry really supports file sharing. Wouldn't be the first time the a label has done something like that.
Besides, Buckcherry already got in enough hot water over the Crazy Bitch video, you know, the one with the under age girl topless? | |
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Las Cruces, NM |  Blegh!
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| | | | Re: Blegh! Amen, brother, amen. Their last "hit" was a pile of coked-up rockstar groupie-banging garbage. | |
| | | | | Re: Blegh! I think they only complained when they found out nobody was downloading the crap!!!! Hoping the publicity would sell at least 1 album. | |
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| | Nice a new I didn't know Chuck Berry was still making music. I will have to check this out. Thanks BBR! | |
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