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Bell Canada seeks cable TV carrier status
by MacGyver 08:57AM Wednesday Jun 09 2004
The Globe and Mail Reports that Bell Canada is asking regulators for approval to deliver television over phone lines, charging head to head with cable operators in Canada's most lucrative markets.

Bell has filed two applications — made public Tuesday by the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission — for cable licences to serve 11 urban centres in Ontario and Quebec, including Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Quebec City. The carrier said it plans to send television programming down the same fibre and copper lines it uses to offer Internet service to residences, known as a Very High Speed Digital Subscriber Line (VDSL).

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MacGyver
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MDU's are the target here

Bell is obviously going after potential customers in Multiple Dwelling Units (MDU's). Many residents of MDU's don't have a choice in what kind of TV service they can get, because their landlord or Condo Corp has negotiated an exclusive deal with one provider or another. In some cases, an MDU building once served by a single cable connection, paid for by the building owner, has now been split to each unit so each tenant can be charged for the cable service individually. The building owner gets a kickback, the cable company gets exclusive rights to the building, and instantly increases their profit exponentially for very little effort.

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Re: MDU's are the target here

the crtc hearing is july 15.

Toronto, Hamilton/Niagara, Oshawa, Kitchener, London, Windsor, Ottawa, and surrounding areas of each location, (Ontario); and Montr?l, Gatineau, Sherbrooke, Qu?ec City, and surrounding areas of each location (Quebec)
Application Nos. 2004-0008-6; 2004-0007-8
Applications by BELL CANADA for two regional licences to operate cable distribution undertakings to serve the above-noted locations.
The applicant proposes to charge a basic monthly fee of $22.94 for the basic service

»www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Heari···4.htm#10

travisc

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They're talking about getting 60,000 customers in the first year. I don't think this is just MDUs they're going after, they're going after everybody.

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Re: MDU's are the target here

Yup, Video over IP, baby.
B0000rt

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Re: MDU's are the target here

haha

so Rogers goes and announces VoIP

and now Bell announces VoIP

:P Feel the love

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MDU's are going to be the easiest to target since the telephone wiring is usually already centrally structured, so just drop in a fiber and DSLAM and they're ready to go live with the service. People who live in houses can put up a Satellite dish and get ExpressVu, without running expensive fiber all over the place.

Half of the 2.5 million residents of Toronto live in rental housing. 99% of them get no choice in their television provider (unless it's rabbitears and a bowtie anntenna) 60000 new customers represents less than 1% of the population in Toronto alone. A completely achievable goal IMHO.
Mark Rejhon

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Re: MDU's are the target here

I predict that by 2020, there isn't going to be a difference between a telephone line and a cable line!

Telephone, video, Internet -- you get all of them.

I think one of the main problem is the remote channel switching (Bell) and limited number of TV sets necessary for DSL bandwidth, but after some optimizations, it is possible to make latency virtually identical to local channel switching (Rogers). (There's always unavoidable latency on fully digital channel switches) As well, as future 100 Mbps VDSL-like solutions and MPEG4 will make possible to do up to 10 HDTV sets displaying different channels simultaneously on one VDSL line. (In tests, 10 Mbps MPEG4 can actually have better image quality than 19 Mbps MPEG2). The 100 Mbps-league VDSL is done using FTTC and FTTN technologies, and is already predicted to be the next step after Bell's planned 26 Mbps VDSL2 infrastructure.

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Re: MDU's are the target here

said by Mark Rejhon:
I predict that by 2020, there isn't going to be a difference between a telephone line and a cable line!
2020? Try 2007. And VDSL can support three TVs now, which is already more than someone should own, IMHO. But yes, when HDTV gets much more popular then more bandwidth will be needed.
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t10

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Woodbridge, ON

err

Bell ExpressVu?

Why would Bell compete with itself?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for 8megabit downpipe on my VDSL, but chances are they will only offer it for TV.

And I wouldn't want to trade my ExpressVu for anything, even if they made VDSL TV for free.