 | | Double Negatives and Canadian Competition What is his double negative supposed to mean? That there is no competition to Canada; that Bell Canada is the voice of "change;" or, that everyone know Wind will be approved? | |
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 DavidTGot TekSavvy?
join:2006-09-01
Oakville, ON
 ·Cogeco Cable
 ·TekSavvy DSL
| Not mistaken? "no one would be mistaken that there is not new competition coming to the Canadian wireless industry."
So in other words... If we said there isn't any new competition, we aren't mistaken? Right from the horse's mouth people, Bell is anti-competitive. | |
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 |  HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2 | Re: Not mistaken? has any local exchange carrier in the history of telecommunications been pro-competitive?
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| | DavidTGot TekSavvy?
join:2006-09-01
Oakville, ON
1 edit | Re: Not mistaken? Sadly, no.
When Wind Mobile launches however...
That is until corporate greed takes over, of course. | |
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| | | HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
| Re: Not mistaken? wake up from your slumber.
have you ever seen a 'new' telecommunications company come in a decimate the competition with low pricing? no, you haven't.
and do you know why that is? because that's the game that all telecommunications companies play. they are all in cahoots with each other. they all know each other. its a big club of telecom giants.
companies enjoy profits. if A and B companies offer services at X amount, the 'new' guy will offer the same services for that same amount. sure there will be certain perks to the 'new' guy's plan, but its all the same gift in different packaging.
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·Acanac
| Re: Not mistaken? said by Harddrive:wake up from your slumber. have you ever seen a 'new' telecommunications company come in a decimate the competition with low pricing? no, you haven't. Microcell with their Fido brand did ! Who can forget the 40$ CityFido plan ?! Or how about the 60$ UNLIMITED (really, with NO CAPS) data plan ? There are still some Fido clients that cling on to it..
Aaaah the good old days of REAL competition in Canada... Hope that Wind will eventually bring some of that love back.
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| | | | | | | Re: Not mistaken? said by adisor19:Aaaah the good old days of REAL competition in Canada... ...and bankruptcy | |
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join:2005-07-27
Mississauga, ON | Re: Not mistaken? said by beachside:said by adisor19:Aaaah the good old days of REAL competition in Canada... ...and bankruptcy ... then assimilated by Rogers. | |
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| | | | | said by DavidT:Sadly, no. When Wind Mobile launches however... That is until corporate greed takes over, of course. But didn't the CRTC essentially quash their application because they aren't majority Canadian-owned? | |
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | Re: Not mistaken? that decision is under review. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Not mistaken? I also don't believe the order stopped Wind from restructuring to try and comply with the ruling (e.g. divesting some additional Orascom interest). | |
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·Bell Sympatico
| Covers 93% of the population? "Covers 93% of the population?"
Interesting way to spin the fact that the system covers less then 1/3 of the Nation. 
"and offer speeds up to 21"
Ah the famous up to slogan, sign up for 21 Mbps, get .01 Mbps while still paying full price - Lovely.  | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
1 edit | Re: Covers 93% of the population? Yup - between Bell/Telus going from CDMA at 98% of the population to HSPA+ at 93% of the population is a significant 'size' difference.
As far as HSPA+ goes, 'as long as you have a datacard' it may make some difference:.
I.e. Robbers/Rogers HSPA+ as posted on HoFo
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| | en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Covers 93% of the population? Here's what 93% gives... nothing in the flyover provinces.
Almost all of Alberta and maritimes are covered... many other areas are not.
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | spectrum what band is this HSDPA running on? | |
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| jyeunginspiration realityPremium
join:2004-03-30
North York, ON | Re: spectrum It's HSPA+.
850/1900Mhz.
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join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: spectrum said by jyeung:It's HSPA+. 850/1900Mhz. - Jason So how on earth are they fitting CDMA 2g, EVDO, and HSPA on the same band? Or am I underestimating how much free PCS spectrum they have (no Tmobile/Sprint equivelents in CA)? | |
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2 edits | Re: spectrum Canadian carriers all enjoy pretty favourable spectrum positions. No major shortfalls up here because of the lower population and smart network planning. Also, Bell and Telus are building the HSPA+ network as a joint venture meaning they can pool their spectrum resources. Even certain portions of their CDMA networks are built under a network sharing agreement. | |
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| |  Its a SecretPlease speak into the microphonePremium
join:2008-02-23
Da wet coast
kudos:3 | I guess we'll see if it's really 93%. I see if I can pick them up on my GSM phone as a carrier over the next couple of days. Yes, I can pick my network on my phone... Saves roaming charges in the US, and I can set it to "home only".
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| Its a SecretPlease speak into the microphonePremium
join:2008-02-23
Da wet coast
kudos:3
1 edit | OK. No sign of any other network on my phone at all. Although I don't have HSPA, I should be able to get the lower band (850). Maybe Bellus has knocked out a deal with Rogers for big $$ 'til they get more infrastructure built?
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| | | | Re: spectrum The Telus/Bell network is HSPA only on both 850 and 1900. If your phone does not have HSPA you will never see the Telus/Bell network. | |
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| | | Its a SecretPlease speak into the microphonePremium
join:2008-02-23
Da wet coast
kudos:3 | Re: spectrum From the people in Bell that I've talked to, it's a Japanese hybrid HSPA network. Totally separate from Rogers. | |
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| | yes lets buy into this awful company sorry answer is NO and ill bet this massive expenditure will teach there shareholders a lesson
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·TekSavvy DSL
| Re: Price plans Now let me get this straight, I priced the cheapest plan, which is $45, add on bell crap and the total including taxes comes out to $59.55 per month taxes included, and this is with no Call Display Voice message, they want $20 for a combo pack.
Am I doing something wrong here, by all means let me know. | |
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join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
kudos:1 | Re: Price plans Dont know if you done anything wrong lol.I wouldn't touch bell with a 10 foot pole nor the other 2 cell players. | |
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| | | | | Re: Price plans Thanks andyb, I thought it was just me, there is no iphone competition in Canada, tale note all you iphone lovers, Im going back to tin cans and string. | |
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·Bell Sympatico
| Yup that is how Bell sells its product, just pick an arbitrarily number, and then slap on a few more fees that are only mentioned in the fine print.
Imagine buying a new car for the sticker price only to later discover that the rims and wheels are extra, (along with mounting, valve stems, balancing, and rotation). | |
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