said by Alpine :

Wow. People around here really can't just take good news at face value. Always has to come with some sort of complaint or whine. Jeeze.

That's also not true. I know at least three or four people personally that CAN get 3.0+, but just need the 1.5.

Adam

said by Alpine :

That I certainly won't disagree with. They've got a significant infrastructure disadvantage against the cable cos, pure and simple. That's why they're always playing catchup

FIOS doesn't have that disadvantage, but even in utopia FIOS is going to take years to get a decent deployment and market share.

This is the biggest reason I support the ATT/BellSouth merger. The two apart, especially BellSouth, are going to have a next-to-impossible time finding the resources to catch-up with cable. This is even more true when DOCSIS 3.0 finally rolls out.

Adam

said by morbo :

i've said it before, but i also envision a time in the not too near future, where telcos (mainly AT&T), will cry for more corporate welfare to help them build their infrastructure. the american public must resist this plea.

said by Alpine :

That's also not true. I know at least three or four people personally that CAN get 3.0+, but just need the 1.5.

Please, if you're going to get diarrhea of the mouth, at least come up with something original.

said by Alpine :

No, no. He quoted the BellSouth guy saying that 30% of their customers are on 3.0+. Then he said that all of the other 70% of people aren't on 3.0+ because they can't get it. That implies that every single person that CAN get 3.0+ actually HAS 3.0+ and that everyone who DOESN'T have 3.0+ CAN'T get it.

Obviously not true. There are plenty of people on "Lite" and 1.5 that could get 3.0+. If there are people that can get the faster tier but decide not to (which there clearly are,) then his statement is clearly false.

Too much logic for you? Time to lay off the absinthe?

said by Mizzat :

I am very posistive it is a lot less than 70% that can't get 3 or 6 meg.

said by Rob :

I'm sure it is. What my point is, BellSouth shouldn't flaunt that "30% or more are on 3 or 6 meg" when they knowingly know that a much larger percentage (obviously not 70%, but I use that # to make my point) cannot obtain 3 or 6 meg.

Going based on the ISP Planet's Top 22 U.S. ISPs by Subscriber list (for Q1 '06), let's estimate that BellSouth has (according to that list) 3,100,000 (3.1 Mil) subscribers. 30% of that (3 100 000 x (30%) ) gives me 930,000.

930,000 out of 3.1 mil either have 3.0mb or 6.0mb. That leaves ~2.2 Mil w/o the ability to get 3meg/6meg OR don't want it.

I'm sorry, but 2.2 Mil who have 1.5mb or less is terrible for our day and age. We're entering 2007 for crying out Fiber!

Pitiful that only 30% are on 3.0 or 6.0 meg. And that only 15% may possibily be on 6.0 meg.

BellSouth needs to get with the program.

said by Rob :

quote:

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"At the end of the third quarter, more than 30% of the DSL customer base subscribed to 3 or 6 megabit services, almost double the mix this time last year, and our monthly mix of net adds has consistently been above 80% for 3 or 6 megabits all year, reflecting strong and steady migrations from lower speed services," recently observed BellSouth CFO Pat Shannon.

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That's great they lowered the price. What CFO Pat Shannon failed to mention is that while more than 30% subscribe to 3 or 6 megbit services, the other 70% cannot get 3 or 6 megbit services, regardless of the reason why (too far from co, poor quality telephone lines, local dslam/rt not equipped with 3.0+, customers are on IFITL *AHEM*, etc etc).

said by john131971 :

louisville, ky

I would think it's safe to say only 30%-40% can get anything faster than 1.5, that's the beauty of lite dsl!

can't wait for insight to roll out 10.0
at current pricing levels...

How will bellsouth respond?

"Only one thing worst than the phone co. and that's the cable co"

Your screwed either way!!!