 DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | Required AV What if you already use an antivirus and you don't want to use f-secure? | |
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 |  | | Re: Required AV I've dropped them a line to see. The wording says users "MUST" download the AV, but I have no idea how they plan to enforce that. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Required AV they will just packet sniff to make sure you download it and update it  | |
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 |  |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | said by Karl Bode:I've dropped them a line to see. The wording says users "MUST" download the AV, but I have no idea how they plan to enforce that. You can download it, but not install it and use something else. Unless they monitor the product to see if it is running, by determining if it is getting regular daily definition updates. | |
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 |  |  b10010011Whats a Posting tag? join:2004-09-07 Bellingham, WA | I think they mean you must download it, not expect to receive physical media. | |
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 |  |  | | said by Karl Bode:I've dropped them a line to see. The wording says users "MUST" download the AV, but I have no idea how they plan to enforce that. They might need you to use a client to connect. At my old job the VPN client would not connect if it did not detect antivirus software. And not just any antivirus, but it had to be corporate McAfee. | |
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 |  | | Ok, the CTO stops by the comments further down to note Bend has the language wrong and the AV is not mandatory. I thought that sounded a little weird. | |
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 | | Price vs Data Allowances These data allowances at the stated price points are MUCH more reasonable than what VZW/ATT/Sprint/T-Mo currently offer. Cripes, $40 with thse guys gets you a puny 200 or 250 Meg/mo allowance, much less that crummy 5 Gig they offer for $60.
Man I sure hope somebody puts these numbers under these CEO's noses and says enough of this shameless usury and ripoff. Start giving us FAIR VALUE for our money please. | |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | 10 times, wow
That cap is 10x what the current carriers offer for much slower 3G service and is even higher than what Time Warner tried to push onto their Road Runner customers! -- trafficcloak.com - pptp/sstp vpn services | |
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 |  | | Re: 10 times, wow i wonder if that is the cap for wireless.... or the cap for wireless + home service. Either way sounds pretty good!! ... we use about 40-45GB a month at home | |
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 |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: 10 times, wow
said by optemino:i wonder if that is the cap for wireless.... or the cap for wireless + home service. Either way sounds pretty good!! ... we use about 40-45GB a month at home I am assuming just wireless. That's a good question however. Anyone know for sure? -- trafficcloak.com - pptp/sstp vpn services | |
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| Re: 10 times, wow Wireless only. Home broadband caps are higher, though not by a ton (100-150GB I think).
The reason behind such caps, I'm guessing, is that Bend will provide this service to people who can't get cable. Any cap lower than 50GB and people would be complaining about it. At 50GB the cap is higher than satellite and MBB combined so it's not that bad for folks who can't get DOCSIS service. | |
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 |  |  |  |  MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | Re: 10 times, wow said by iansltx:Wireless only. Home broadband caps are higher, though not by a ton (100-150GB I think). The reason behind such caps, I'm guessing, is that Bend will provide this service to people who can't get cable. Any cap lower than 50GB and people would be complaining about it. At 50GB the cap is higher than satellite and MBB combined so it's not that bad for folks who can't get DOCSIS service. That's not a bad offering against satellite. Much lower latency, higher speeds, and a higher cap. Kudos. -- trafficcloak.com - pptp/sstp vpn services | |
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| Re: 10 times, wow Amen to that. Latency should be in the neighborhood of 80-100ms from what I'm seeing of other HSPA+ networks. it's also mobile, so not only can customers who can't get cable get it, but also folks who want to take their connection with them.
Considering the fact that WiMAX probably won't reach Bend, Ore. for a long while yet, this is a pretty decent deal. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: 10 times, wow We are seeing latency in the high 50 to low 60 ms range, in the mid-90 dBm RSSI, on the fixed router. Mobility brings this more up in the 70ms plus range under velocity.
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 w0go.O join:2001-08-30 Springfield, OR | Clear and Sprint 4G faster I average 10Mbps and no caps. It's not hard or uncommom to hit 13-16Mbps real-world. | |
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 |  PDX @bendbroadband.com | Re: Clear and Sprint 4G faster I get from 4-6Mbs ... thats not what I see over with Clear. | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | said by w0g:I average 10Mbps and no caps. It's not hard or uncommom to hit 13-16Mbps real-world. A) Get out of here with that 4G crap most people won't be able to get. I'll bet $1000 right now Sprint doesn't offer 4G in that area. So what's your point?
B) You THINK you dont have any caps. You do. | |
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 |  |  w0go.O join:2001-08-30 Springfield, OR | Re: Clear and Sprint 4G faster said by BF69:said by w0g:I average 10Mbps and no caps. It's not hard or uncommom to hit 13-16Mbps real-world. A) Get out of here with that 4G crap most people won't be able to get. I'll bet $1000 right now Sprint doesn't offer 4G in that area. So what's your point? That the claim that it's the fastest wireless deployment is false. Clear and Sprint have and continue to hold that title. B) You THINK you dont have any caps. You do. I download over 200GBs some months on Clear, all for $30/month. You were saying... -- www.aimless.us - irc.aimless.us channel #fix | |
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 | | F-Secure Not Requred Karl,
Good catch. F-Secure is not required, the language should say 'can' be obtained from. We will correct.
Frank Miller CTO / BendBroadband | |
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 |  | | Re: F-Secure Not Requred great, thanks Frank.... | |
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1 edit | Interesting stuff I saw Bend in the AWS auction winnings awhile back (looked through them over Thansgiving) so apparently you can get a 1700MHz HSPA+ data card. My big question is what model, where can I get it, how much does it cost, and what are the real world download/upload speeds for this puppy? Clear WiMAX, when uncapped (Sprint), can hit 15/5 which HSPA+ at this point won't do, but 10/2 is respectable.
One thing to note is that, at least so far, this service doesn't work outside Bend's coverage area. Not that that's a horrible thing, as it keeps costs down and caps high. But if you're looking forsomething akin to a typical cellular data card, keep looking...though if the Bend cards are unlocked then you could have a Bend plan for local usage and T-Mobile for nationwide, which would seriously rock. | |
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 |  | | Re: Interesting stuff Ian,
The HSPA+ chipset we are using are 21Mbs/5.6Mbs. Our top layer 3 testing in the field is near 16Mbs down and 4Mbs up, but our average RSSI / sector loading for customers will be between 6-8Mbs down and 2-3 Mbs up. That stated, we have many sectors with minimal clutter seeing 10+Mbs average speeds.
Our serviacibility tool for customers will provide a good estimate for service at location.
Take care,
Frank Miller CTO / BendBroadband | |
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 |  |  iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | Re: Interesting stuff Impressive. Where are you guys getting your modems from? | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Interesting stuff We have been working with Bandrich, from the beginning, in our ecosystem schedule, for our December launch timeframe. Ericsson is our RAN / Packetcore partners.
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 me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Wait what? 50 GB a month and only $1.50 for each gigaBYTE over? Did they fail consumer skrewing 101? Or are they just not out to skrew the consumer and actually make a somewhat honest buck? | |
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 |  | | Re: Wait what? Cellular backhaul capacity, from 600Mbs to 1Gbs, with many towers lit by fiber, lowers the cost/bit to match the complete IP ecosystem.
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 |  |  | | Re: Wait what? said by Frank Miller :
Cellular backhaul capacity, from 600Mbs to 1Gbs, with many towers lit by fiber, lowers the cost/bit to match the complete IP ecosystem.
Frank Don`t be silly. If gigantic and multinational multicorps like AT&T and Verizon can`t afford to provide this kind of service, then neither can you.
Oh wait...they were lying? Oh darn... | |
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 |  | | I would sell one of my gonads, no, give it away, to get service such as this! I have the infamous Verizon 5 gig limit, for $62.00 a month. Lot of respect for these guys!! | |
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 |  |  me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Wait what? I know, man I wish they were in MO. | |
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 borka join:2003-04-01 Brooklyn, NY | Not an alternative to 3g or LTE This service cant be compared with a mobile 3G solution, its intended to be the primary connection AT HOME, for those customers that cant be served via regular cable drops.
So this service cant be directly compared to Cellular data services which are nationwide or much wider area and are mean to be mobile solutions.
Also comparing the Nation wide 5gb cap on 3G plans to this 50gb plan is comparing two completely different things. one is a local area wireless network with the home user who cant get cable, and the other is a national network with the mobile users in mind. | |
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| Re: Not an alternative to 3g or LTE You can take the HSPA+ stick with you though, so this is closer to Clear's WiMAX service, except provided by a local company. Think of it as a local-carrier MBB service that's able to provide more because it's over a smallish area. Like Clear, or one of the unlimited carriers for voice service. Might be a little harder to grasp if you're in a more urban area where rural carriers (like »westcentral.net) don't exist, but it serves its purpose. | |
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 |  | | Okay so its not a alternative to 3G. At least they are willing to offer something better than what people have now in Bend or an alternative solution. Good God, if they deliver on what they offer without the dreaded "up to " clause cutting real perfomance to a thrird of what they advertize then more power to them. If I didn't have Internet access without having to rely on the TELCO crooks to BEND me over a skrew me and instead offered a viable solution, I'd be interested. | |
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 | | Hopefully they're better than Clear at least for the locals I see Bend partnering with T-Mo USA down the road once they launch their HSPA + service.
That would be beneficial for locals at least.
I've used the wireless WiMax service in parts of Portland and I must say I'm not too impressed.
I've seen some users (probably Clear employees or enthusiasts) show these incredible speeds but honest to God my speeds are very erratic and seem to drop everytime the wind changes directions.
The coverage indoors is pretty bad too. I've read reports all over the web of users complaining of the same thing so I know I'm not alone.
I have 3G Verizon and Sprint USB modems. Both work okay (more consistent than Clear) but still slow.
I'd like to have HSPA + coverage as I'm moving to Los Angeles in January. Hopefully T-Mobile or AT&T can launch it down there sometime next year.
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 | | AT&T Go Suck it and pull your commercials because you don't have the nations fastest 3G network. -- I get 29 MPG in my Toyota Highlander Hybrid! | |
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