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kudos:1 | Tax man.... If you send email, he'll tax the bits,
If download tunes, he'll tax the hits.
If you stream online, he'll tax Netflix,
If you watch Pr0n, he'll tax those pix.
'Cause he's the TAX MAN!
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Southfield, MI | Re: Tax man.... Congress is destroying the post office, not the post office itself. If you give it more money, they will just take more away. | |
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| said by N3OGH:If you send email, he'll tax the bits,
If download tunes, he'll tax the hits.
If you stream online, he'll tax Netflix,
If you watch Pr0n, he'll tax those pix.
'Cause he's the TAX MAN!
If you watch Pr0n, he'll tax those TITS.
There, I fixed it for you.
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kudos:1 | Re: Tax man.... LOL, AWESOME!
I love it... | |
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If download tunes, he'll tax the hits.
If you stream online, he'll tax Netflix,
If you watch Pr0n, he'll tax those pix.
'Cause he's the TAX MAN!
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rradina
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Chesterfield, MO | 1 cent per gigabyte tax Wouldn't that raise the wholesale cost per gigabyte by 1000%? | |
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|  BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | Re: 1 cent per gigabyte tax said by rradina:Wouldn't that raise the wholesale cost per gigabyte by 1000%?
he said 1 cent per gigabit which would be 8 cents per GB. Which means if one uses their entire 250 GB cap that would be $20 a month tax. | |
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Chesterfield, MO | Re: 1 cent per gigabyte tax Ah...missed that it was bit not byte. That's crazy. | |
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| | LOL Go back to bed old man nobody wants to hear your tax talk, its more complicated then that how do you tax international traffic, across state lines traffic someone stuff a sock in this guys mouth. | |
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| | | Re: LOL Gotta love it when one of these 12 o'clock flashers tries to get involved with techical stuff. | |
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| | Or why not.... Try making a government run email service as part of the Postal Service, and then charge yearly fees for that. Run spam protection on it (by simply disallowing outside email sources to deliver to it). Internal virus protection, kiosks in the postal centers to check it, etc etc.
I mean if we the Taxpayer are supposedly funding it, then let it do more than it does now and stop leaving it mired in ancient technology.
SMTP STILL SUCKS, and the moment someone does something better this "bill" would become superfluous..fuck its already superfluous in the face of Facebook, Skype and the other ways to "electronically communicate" while offline or online. | |
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united state | Re: Or why not.... I already get enough authorized junk mail from the USPS. I'd like to save my digital life from that if possible.
As soon as you give a party exclusive control over something, you can say bye-bye to your freedom. I'd rather choose who can protect me from spam and malware on my own tyvm. | |
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join:2002-01-22
00000 | 7 day a week package delivery If we want to save the USPS, the way to do it is to put a higher emphasis on package delivery. Instead of cutting service from 6 days to 5, have daily package delivery (holidays too) at an appropriate price. | |
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| | | Re: 7 day a week package delivery USPS already offers this service. You can have an Express Mail package delivered on Sundays and holiday's for an additional fee. | |
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| said by morbo:If we want to save the USPS, the way to do it is to put a higher emphasis on package delivery. Instead of cutting service from 6 days to 5, have daily package delivery (holidays too) at an appropriate price.
The way to save the USPS is to allow it to compete and stop the BS of having to pre-fund their retirement accounts for 75 years. There is no company that has to do this and there is no reason the USPS should either.
The next step after that is to put into place law that would not allow the Congress to steal money from the USPS coffers that has nothing to do with taxes...
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| Re: 7 day a week package delivery said by skeechan:The problem with USPS delivery is no one is interested in "It'll get there when it gets there" service or their horrible lack of reliable tracking. In my small business I tried to use the flat rate box service and it took 10 weeks to deliver a 30LB box from SoCal to Texas. How do you lose a 30LB priority mail box? Despite tracking and signature required, it never showed up on tracking and I never got proof of delivery. I only knew it got there when my customer finally let me know.
That was the last time I will ever consider the USPS for any shipping needs.
You do realize that UPS and FedEx use the USPS for package deliveries in undeserved/remote areas because it is too expensive for them to do that themselves?
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| Re: 7 day a week package delivery Services like UPS Mail Innovations are for bulk shippers that don't care when their stuff gets to where it is supposed to get to and UPS/Fedex do all the work of sorting and transport until the last mile. In exchange they get a cheaper rate. It has nothing to do with remote areas. UPS would still deliver there, just not with the UPS Mail Innovations level of "It'll get there whenever" service. I have received stuff shipped via Mail Innovations and I'm certainly not in a remote area.
Those partnerships aren't about UPS or Fedex not delivering to every zip code, but a slower and cheaper service than UPS or Fedex Ground...a service for bulk shippers like those of catalogs.
Even then it is completely irrelevant. I was shipping a priority mail parcel to Waco, TX and it took 10 weeks. I don't care what planet yer on, that is insane. The USPS can't be trusted with time critical anything. | |
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kudos:5 |  UN has proposed this a few times
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Chesterfield, MO | Re: UN has proposed this a few times I just love the word "fleece". So eloquently stated! | |
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Cleveland, TN | stupid taxing email wont save the post office get red of there healthcare mandate for starters | |
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kudos:2 | Re: stupid Get rid of the postal workers union for starters. Then deliver MTTh only with part time labor. | |
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| said by zed260:taxing email wont save the post office get red of there healthcare mandate for starters
Agreed, then the USPS will be in the BLACK and not in the RED... But of course Repubs would not like that, cause then they couldn't Privatize the USPS and drive rates up through the roof many times over while increasing profits while screwing good postal workers, but then low paid workers like at Walmart equals high employee turnover and a Stupid thoughtless employer... | |
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| | Here's a better way to fix the Post Office... Repeal the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 that forces the USPS to fund 75 years of pension costs in the span of nine, you read that right, years. | |
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| CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picturePremium
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| Re: Here's a better way to fix the Post Office... ^^^^ THIS ^^^^
Is 100% correct. The current Postal Service problems are caused by a stupid decision that needs to be repealed. No where else does such a requirement exist. It is nothing but the deliberate destruction of the Post Office by congress-critters who will most likely profit directly from its demise.
Where is the bill to require UPS & FedEx to fund their pensions for the next 75 years?
»www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/2···211.html | |
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Chesterfield, MO | Re: Here's a better way to fix the Post Office... You mean FedEx and UPS might have bought lobbied Congress? No! Say it isn't so! | |
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Brookline, MA | There is no such requirement. The correct number is 50 years. (But that doesn't work as well with the "forced to fund workers who haven't even been born yet" catchphrase.)
»washingtonexaminer.com/unravelin···/2521473
Also, regarding the notion that the PAEA is an evil Republican plot shoved down the USPS's throat, note the following page
»www.nalc.org/postal/reform/paea_2006.html
from the NALC, one of the major postal unions, showing that everyone involved (both major parties, postal management, AND postal unions) were enthusiastic about PAEA at the time. It was only after the recession struck and mail volume started plummeting that the "evil plot" meme started circulating. Unless the recession itself was part of the plot, but considering it was on Bush's watch, and helped Obama win the 2008 election, that's farfetched. | |
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The original point still stands, though, that the Act in question is a source of the USPS's current fiscal imbalance. | |
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| Re: Here's a better way to fix the Post Office... said by TelecomEng :said by andre2:There is no such requirement. The correct number is 50 years. I stand corrected. The original point still stands, though, that the Act in question is a source of the USPS's current fiscal imbalance. Actually, 75 years is the correct number. Some are misstating it as '75 years into the future' but that is not right. The additional 25 years covers the current employees. It has to be funded 50 years into the future and 25 years into the past. Even at 50 years, the catchphrase is still accurate. Someone born this year could grow up, get hired by the post office, and retire after 25 years all by 2056.
The private sector also accumulates massive unfunded liabilities that the tax payers often end up bailing out... shouldn't they also be required to pre-fund? | |
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Brookline, MA | Re: Here's a better way to fix the Post Office... said by CXM_Splicer:Actually, 75 years is the correct number. Some are misstating it as '75 years into the future' but that is not right. The additional 25 years covers the current employees. It has to be funded 50 years into the future and 25 years into the past. Even at 50 years, the catchphrase is still accurate. Someone born this year could grow up, get hired by the post office, and retire after 25 years all by 2056.
You should tell this to Fredric Rolando (current NALC president). In the column mentioned in the link, he said
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Moreover, lawmakers set a highly aggressive level -- prefunding for the next 75 years, paid within a decade.
And when the columnist asked the NALC to explain the 75-year figure, they sent nothing. So I don't think they want that misunderstanding to be cleared up, if it is one. If you want, you can email the columnist. There were no substantive posted comments on the article itself.
said by CXM_Splicer:The private sector also accumulates massive unfunded liabilities that the tax payers often end up bailing out... shouldn't they also be required to pre-fund?
I think pre-funding should be required (in either the public or private sector) whenever it can change whether the taxpayer is on the hook or not. For the vast majority of government agencies, that get funded through taxes (the USPS being one of the few exceptions), pre-funding wouldn't help, since the taxpayer pays for them regardless. | |
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Camden, TN | yes because republicans are always full of good ideas. | |
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Springfield, MA
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| The post office should cut costs The post office could cut costs by delivering weekdays in urban areas and twice or three times a week to rural areas.
They could also charge higher postage for delivery to rural areas or require rural residents pay a monthly fee to receive mail but could get a PO Box free of charge.
I have a PO Box because there are certain individuals/companies I don't want them to have my home address.
A PO Box is the old fashioned way of hiding behind a screen name.
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
kudos:1 | Help the Post Office? Tax email?
Let them raise the cost of a stamp to 50 cents.
Done. | |
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| | US Postal Service needs to redefine its purpose The post office was originally mandated because there was no other way to conduct business, and the US saw it as a necessity for the country to run. That is no longer the case, there are plenty of alternatives. Maybe the post office needs to redefine its role in the USA, or maybe it is a concept that has outlived its usefulness.
Or maybe the Post Office needs to up its rates to something more realistic, and be a self-sustaining organization. How else can you get an original piece of paper from the east coast to the west coast in a couple of days for less than the price of a cup of coffee?
I love the post office: they are cheap for the service they provide, but maybe it should no longer be a government subsided organization! | |
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Broadway, NC Reviews:
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| Re: US Postal Service needs to redefine its purpose quote:
...I love the post office: they are cheap for the service they provide, but maybe it should no longer be a government subsided organization!
!. The government does NOT subsidize the USPS - all operating costs are covered by their own revenue
2. The postal service is mandated in the Constitution
You might want to re-think that position I think...
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| Re: US Postal Service needs to redefine its purpose said by coldmoon:2. The postal service is mandated in the Constitution Well, the right to bear arms is mandated as part of the Constitution (technically its second amendment), but we certainly don't see the Senate or President respecting that lately.
And freedom of assembly is granted to us by the first amendment, but apparently you don't have such a freedom if the government thinks you might be eating in a restaurant associated with terrorists abroad. Then it's apparently acceptable to use deadly force against you... for your own protection, nonetheless. Were it not for Senator Paul, you might also be a recipient of this "protective action" while dining at your favorite pizza pub here at home. (It does make one wonder who the real terrorists are.)
Given the above, it would be no surprise to me if the current administration or Congress decided to ignore Constitutional provisions about the postal service.
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| Re: US Postal Service needs to redefine its purpose quote:
...Well, the right to bear arms is mandated as part of the Constitution (technically its second amendment), but we certainly don't see the Senate or President respecting that lately. ...
Really? You may want to brush up on recent SCOTUS decisions and then think about that a bit more...
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...And freedom of assembly is granted to us by the first amendment, but apparently you don't have such a freedom if the government thinks you might be eating in a restaurant associated with terrorists abroad. ...
Not that the abuse of the powers the Congress gave up to the Executive are not an issue that needs to be discussed and fixed ASAP; what does that have to do with the Post Office?
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...Were it not for Senator Paul, you might also be a recipient of this "protective action" while dining at your favorite pizza pub here at home. (It does make one wonder who the real terrorists are.)...
Sen. Paul got kudos from both sides of the isle and for good reason and he deserves that praise. It still however has nothing to do with the Post Office...
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...Given the above, it would be no surprise to me if the current administration or Congress decided to ignore Constitutional provisions about the postal service.
And give up the opportunity to pass "bipartisan" post office naming bills? You give Congress as a whole too much credit for intelligent thought...
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join:2010-07-16
Lachine, QC
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| A new Tax The world needs a new tax. Every time a politician, a councilman, a senator, or anyone else in any office opens their mouth with another dumb idea, they get taxed.
The economy, national debts, world hunger, etc. There will be money to fix everything in no time! | |
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| | Wow... Great idea!!! Not only do we NOT get to pay for all of the junk mail we get, but now... we WILL have to pay for service that the USPS doesn't even provide!!! Woo-hoo!!! (Put this guy in a think-tank!!!) | |
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| | | Re: For this to work... Forget $.50 make it a $1.00 and call it a day.
Raise the junk mail rate.
Only deliver mail every other day.
Make the majority of mail carriers part time.
I've been in the post office maybe 10 times in the past 2 years and dont get much mail, only junk. | |
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| Do what regular companies do Go out of business. Your business model, fails, you go away. Goodnight. That will solve the pension issue.
I don't understand why the government needs to prop up failing businesses, even if at one time they were relevant and created by them.
I guarantee you that it would cost less to send a package if USPS went away. It would also free up my post box from 90% of the spam mail I get today. People would find innovative ways to get rid of physical mail delivery, and it would actually make things better not worse, and for those tree huggers and leftists, less polluting. | |
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Utica, MI |  We have it too good.
"Domestic 1st Class"
0-30g $0.63
30-50g $1.10
50-100g $1.34
An oz is approx. 28 1/3 grams.
CAD and USD are at near-parity.
Canada is a larger land mass;
Canada is approx 34.5 million folks.
USPS rates are far too LOW.
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Camden, TN | Re: We have it too good. Canada is slightly larger than the US but the fact is most of the people in Canada live in the bottom 3rd. I do agree the postal rates in the US are too low. If you raise the price of first class stamp from 46 cents to 60 cents you eliminate most of the problem. | |
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| Reagan was right “Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
If it moves, tax it. --email
If it keeps moving, regulate it.
And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” --USPS
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| Someone here must like to waste money and subsidize useless idiots. The entire postal service should be classified as workfare. (Actually, I've probably seen workfare recipients move faster than some postal employees.)
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| | ah the postal service One quick way to save money is to 100% drop Saturday deliveries.
the current plan is to drop only letters, but not packages, which will still result in potentially 100% of the delivery force coming in to deliver 1 package per route on Saturday. Minimum hours to pay those workers are for 4 hours, regardless if only one hour worked.
cost saving to only deliver packages? $2 billion. billion$ more would be saved by cutting all saturday delivery.
The teabag approved NSA can just count all the emails flowing through its snooping center, for the taxation numbers. | |
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