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join:2002-12-23
Arlington, VA | whats this mean for current comcast pro customers does that mean the 3.5/384 speed for comcast pro customers will increase? | |
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join:2003-05-21
Berwyn, PA | Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers i feel that the download is fine...its UPLOAD that we need!!!!!! | |
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join:2002-08-08
Ogden, UT | Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers I totally agree! Nobody ever talks about increasing the upload speeds. I don't really care if my download is 1.5, 3.0, or 5.0, I want more options for upload speed! | |
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b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
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i feel that the download is fine...its UPLOAD that we need!!!!!!
There's no need for more than 384 unless you are running a server, which is prohibited.
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers said by b1gdr3 :
said by Mr007 :
i feel that the download is fine...its UPLOAD that we need!!!!!!
There's no need for more than 384 unless you are running a server, which is prohibited.
Not so. as games get more and more sophisticated the data required also increases therefore for more enjoyable gameplay more upload bandwidth is required.
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I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers said by Wills :
Or what about me...I take care of several websites, I'd like some extra upload to make that less of a pain. I send big graphic files to printers, that would be nice to send those a lot faster
Like I said in one of my previous posts...better done with a BUSINESS line...not a residential one.
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| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers I think wills has a valid point here. He doesn't NEED it. Heck, nobody even NEEDS a broadband connection. We could all use the arguement that if you NEEDED it that you could just go with a biz connection.
But it doesn't mean people don't have valid uses for a better upload. I'd like it just so that when I do my occasional uploading that it gets done 3-4 times faster. Isn't that why we got broadband? For the speed.
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I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers said by Wills :
I'm not a business. I don't get paid for this work. Any other bright yet narrowminded ideas?
Still using it for business purposes whether you get paid or not. As for the personal attacks, try to keep them to a minimum. It detracts from the points you make. We can agree to disagree.
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Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers said by b1gdr3 :
Still using it for business purposes whether you get paid or not.
I don't think your comment here is exactly valid. How does Wills taking care of multiple sites automagically constitute business purposes? It simply could be one person with multiple personal sites.
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join:2000-12-30
Doylestown, PA
| There is no need for anyone's car to go faster than 25 mph
There is no need for people to have anymore that 3 tv channels
I could keep going but it would get tedious. I think I made my point.
Who CARE'S if it's needed or not? What if someone really DOESN'T NEEEEEEED it but just WANTS it?
My god we're not talking about oxygen here.
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There's no need for more than 384 unless you are running a server, which is prohibited.
I SAY:
That is NOT TRUE - Here are things im constantly doing and im not running any servers or business :
1) sending file attachments
2) audio/video conferencing
3) file sharing programs - legitimate file sharing
4) multitasking
The internet has gone very multimedia, and 384 just doesnt cut it... And when your multitasking ie doing multiple
events at the same time, it is EASY to eat up all your upload speed, which then degrades your download speed as well even though you have plenty left.
People should complain more to the company. It is Bogus that people dont need upload speed.. Why is it fair that i can download my email quick as split, but to send a file attachment to a friend I have to sit there and wait for 10 minutes and that's supposed to be okay.
Now im not saying it has to be a 3500kbps up and down, but 384 is TOO SLOW for todays everyday non commerical non server applications. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by Mr007 :
i feel that the download is fine...its UPLOAD that we need!!!!!!
Raise the upload more than 384kbps and you're asking for trouble. look at OOL. do you really want more upload with additional restrictions on what you can use it for or how long you can use it.
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Premium
join:2003-04-08
Los Angeles, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| ATM i pay $79.99 a month for ATT/Comcast Ultralink 3000/384 service.
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220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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Mechanicsburg, PA
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| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers id be way happy with 3.5/1.5.... but...verizons latest offering of DSL thru the RT has a 7.1/1.5 tentative rollout in october....ill be losing my comsuck account and switching to VZ since im only 1kft from the RT.
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220, 221, Whatever It Takes.
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join:2002-12-04
Mount Juliet, TN
| Who knows, but i know they have been upgrading where i live. My Internet -pro STUNK for the first 8 months, but to comcast's crdit, they didnt make me pay for it. Now, i am rock solid 384/3.5 but i should be, as internet pro here is 95.00 a month Hopefully, they will give us an option of internet Super Duper pro, at around 1.5 up, and 10 mb down, for 125.00 a month. after all they only charge 39.00 for 1.5/256
But good news is, they are definately upgrading here. should, i screamed loud enough.
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I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers said by Benji21126 :
Hopefully, they will give us an option of internet Super Duper pro, at around 1.5 up, and 10 mb down, for 125.00 a month.
That's a totally unrealistic price point. You want them to add 6.5mb down and 1.1mb up for 30 dollars more? Have you ever even run a business? Bandwidth isn't free for anyone....to support 10mb/1.5 would be a hell of a lot more than $125...and you don't need more than 384 up, unless you are running some crappy game server.
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join:2001-11-24
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I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
Pittsburgh, PA
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers said by scottj1 :
There are remote administrative tasks that are done on some large networks that run slow at 384, and considerable better at 10MB plus.
Better suited for a business line and not your residential line. Nuff said.
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join:2000-12-30
Doylestown, PA
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers RE: "Better suited for a business line and not your residential line. Nuff said."
No, not "nuff said". They have the infastructure and the means to deliver higher speeds than what they're offering. If we the CUSTOMERS, business or residential, have the willingness to PAY for it, so be it!
Some people like in homes that are large enough to be department stores, does that mean it SHOULD be a department store? No, it's still a home. So super high speeds should only be reserved for businesses? Why? Why can't that gap be bridged? Long gone SHOULD be the days when the little guy had dial up and the amazons of the world used T1-T3. Even the biggest companies cqan benefit from their customers having higher bandwidth. | |
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join:2000-11-11
Los Angeles, CA | Well, Korean Telecom is offering VDSL (13 Mbps download) for 50,000 Won which is around $40 to $45. And they've been running the business for long time. It looks like the bandwidth is free for them. | |
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join:2003-02-09
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: whats this mean for current comcast pro customers "Well, Korean Telecom is offering VDSL (13 Mbps download) for 50,000 Won which is around $40 to $45. And they've been running the business for long time. It looks like the bandwidth is free for them."
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Dolemite
Premium
join:2000-05-04
Beltsville, MD
·Verizon FIOS
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| No one can be too rich. When I first got broadband four years ago I had 1500/384kbps DSL. Two years later that seemed slow. After having COMCAST Pro speeds for a year I have gotten used to it and it doesn't seem as fast as it did when I first got it. I currently pay US$95 for COMCAST Pro at 3500/384kbps and I am still looking for something faster. I would gladly pay up to US$150 for 10/1.5Mbps (up/down) and I would pay more for faster speeds. While the upload speed isn't all that important to me I would really like to have as much download bandwidth as possible. As the saying goes "...[one] can never be too rich...and [one] can never have too much bandwidth." | |
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: No one can be too rich. said by jbgroup1 :
When I first got broadband four years ago I had 1500/384kbps DSL. Two years later that seemed slow. After having COMCAST Pro speeds for a year I have gotten used to it and it doesn't seem as fast as it did when I first got it. I currently pay US$95 for COMCAST Pro at 3500/384kbps and I am still looking for something faster. I would gladly pay up to US$150 for 10/1.5Mbps (up/down) and I would pay more for faster speeds. While the upload speed isn't all that important to me I would really like to have as much download bandwidth as possible. As the saying goes "...[one] can never be too rich...and [one] can never have too much bandwidth."
Forget EVER getting 1500kbps upload. the current system cable uses only has 4.6mbps(after overhead) on each node. that would mean three users uploading would saturate the upload channel and others download rates would fall and latency would increase. DOCSIS 2.0 alleviates this somewhat but only adds 10mbps to the upload channel. want 1.5mbps up either get a T1 or if u can get it i believe Speakeasy offers up to 1.5mbps upload (sysadmin/god packages) of course if you cant get DSL that point is moot.
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Dolemite
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join:2000-05-04
Beltsville, MD
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| Re: No one can be too rich. Well like I said I'd really like to have the download speed. I don't run servers and pretty much just download large files form work and surf the internet and check e-mail. If it weren't for having to download large files from work I could probably get by with "dial-up". NOT!!. | |
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join:2000-02-09
Crofton, MD
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does that mean the 3.5/384 speed for comcast pro customers will increase?
I hope so! For the $95 a month price we pay the speeds (especially upload) seem a bit low to me. We should get more for that price.
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Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
·Verizon FIOS
| No more monopolies Verizon made their move... now the chess game begins.
Both companies were content with keeping their monopolies and low speeds and high prices and sucky service.
Verizon lowered the prices, now comcast has to counter. It's only going to get worse for these companies (which means better for the customers)
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Upper Marlboro, MD | Now!!!! Now it will be worth 60 bucks. You cant argue with those speeds, I am still PISSED for now. | |
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dGIceman
I Blame My Mother.
join:2002-09-07
Lacey, WA
| This is a catchy title I am a Cable subscriber since @home. I purchased the ATT Ultralink service (3000/384) back in September, before the take over by Comcast. I have never seen the 384, but my downstream has been rock solid. I do wonder why I am not receiving the 3.5/384 like the rest of the Comcast Pro subscribers, that is what I am paying for at any rate.
My main worry is that Comcast hasn't fixed the Over-Subscribed ATT network. Instead of pushing for more subscribers and putting more strain on this troubled network, I would wish that these upgrades would be moved to a priority level. Every since Comcast has taken over I have had a very unreliable connection. Not just cable internet but TV also. There are times when I lose both services for many hours. I have never lost cable TV before and I must admit I was at a loss in my little home with no internet and no cable TV. Please Comcast!! Fix your network and stop advertising for new customers. It is in your best interest. | |
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Ghost1971
join:2003-02-24
Lake In The Hills, IL
| And still no service Comcast has informed my village that it'll be available within the next 2 years (we've been hearing that for 4 years). Therefore, I am going with DLS.net (»www.dls.net/services/wireless.phtml), even though the installation charges are hefty. The speeds are un-matched in my area (up to 10Mbps/10Mbps). For other companies, the speeds are 0 up / 0 down. | |
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The Kapil
join:2000-04-26
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Comcast still blames it on the "schitzophrenic" Chicagoland populace, claiming to get dozens of signups one day, and hundreds the next- swamping their systems and making upgrade planning based upon predictions impossible. All conveniently out of their control.
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My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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|  Oh yeah!
Now, as for more upload bandwidth, I would like to see it. However, there are a lot of people who run FTP servers, Kazaa, and so on 24/7. If the upload bandwidth goes up, then there better be a pretty major amount of bandwidth to go around. Just raising the 384k bandwidth to 640k could be a pretty big problem. I am pretty content with 256k for a while. I don't upload that much at all.
I say kudos to Comcast and I hope to see those increased speeds down the road! 
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Oh yeah! With QPSK the upload is around 4.6mbps on the upload channel/node. its not as easy as just changing the rates in the config files and sending to the modems. IMHO going over 384kbps on a large network like comcasts would be detrimental to everyones service.
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Jaffa Kree
Premium
join:2001-12-27
Holmen, WI
clubs: 
| Charter Communications to follow???? Ha...Thought I would add this:
This Just In>>> Charter Communications to offer 100mbps downstream/ 128k upstream internet connection for residential customers for $14,785 a month. Contact your representative today!!!
Thought this would be appropriate seeing how charter thinks 128k upstream is enough for anyone.
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join:2003-03-20
Portland, OR
| Isn't it nice? Well let's see if they can give up 512 or higher upload. that'd be something I'd pay extra for.
I'm getting solid 1800/256 performance over here in Portland. Uptown, west side. The East Side is over saturated, my buddy across the river gets crap connection speeds. | |
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
| Re: Isn't it nice? I dont think you people understand. To the average user being able to browse HTTP sites quickly is all they need. If Verizon is $35 for 768/128 (I know this isn't their package, just trying to make a comparison) and Comcast is 1.5/256 the consumer would go for Verizon 90% of the time. You people need to understand that we are the extremely whiny minority and no-where near the majority of Comcast subscribers. Granted I would LOVE to see higher caps but then reality hits me. | |
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join:2003-03-20
Portland, OR
| Re: Isn't it nice? That true. So people who only want to web browse should get a 512/128 service and pay alot less. 1800/256 is the current base level. Oh well.
People just don't need broadband as much as they think they do. I actually max out my connection more often than not. | |
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b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
Pittsburgh, PA
| said by WolfJaguar :
The East Side is over saturated, my buddy across the river gets crap connection speeds.
Do you know for a fact that it is oversaturated? Or are you making an assumption?
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join:2003-03-20
Portland, OR
| Re: Isn't it nice? Actually according to all the networking techs that work for Comcast in the area, the East side has alot more connections per household than over on the West side.
It's an educated guess, I know that my friend had new cable run into his house and all that stuff. His computer is not the problem and neither is the modem.
Not known to me for a full fact, but still, with the information at my fingertips it's easy to connect the dots.
Plus, in my neighborhood and the surrounding area in Portland is mostly urban and the East side has much more suburban area. That might help matters a bit as well.
Only people that live around me are lawyers and shrinks. I know they only watch tv for the news.
EDIT: connections per household, derp, what I meant was households that have HSI connections. Sorry, getting sleepy.
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join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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| Re: I have to laugh said by logcabinboy :
Anyways my point is choose where you live carefully and look next time for a CO nearby.
Well, my point is that people living in as heavily concentrated an area such as I live in really shouldn't have to choose where they live carefully to get DSL if
the Telcos were really on the ball and even close to being capable to deliver on a Fiber to the home strategy.
But, with Insight RR, TW RR, Earthlink Cable, WOW, AOL Cable, and lord knows who else providing high speed service in this city, I guess it's their loss, not ours!
And Btw, being familiar with your area, I'd say you didn't choose the wrong place to live at all. It's been known to be my little get a way place from time to time. Nothing like living in the stars on a nice summer night.
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join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA | What??!!
No Grocery store!!!!
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BrooklynZoo
For Everthing Else, There's Mastercard
join:2001-04-01
Atlanta, GA | Hope all is well when I move.... | |
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Premium
join:2001-03-06
clubs: | Re: Hope all is well when I move.... luck wont help you here ------comcast is a four letter word in this part of town | |
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as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | At least Comcast doesnt have data transfer caps(yet) | |
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Premium
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clubs: | Re: Hope all is well when I move.... oh they will if one has it then sooner or later they all going too change like cows too water | |
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Lu.. Lu.. Lulululu
Premium
join:2001-09-16
99999 | Not fast enough?? Spoiled spoiled people. | |
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT | Whats everybody so happy about? These are just speculations, we don't know if were going to get 3mbps. Lets hold of the champagne for later till we get some hints of better speeds. | |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| Re: Whats everybody so happy about? It also becomes a question of what it takes to get from point A to point B. If Brian Roberts and Comcast really wanted to bump download speeds to 3 Mbps, they could be pushing new modem configuration files to the millions of cable modems hooked to their network as I type this. Are the local systems currently capable of supporting higher download bandwidth? Or will it take nationwide upgrades (i.e. DOCSIS 2.0 CMTS units) to support it? Will it come with a rate increase?
This could be neat from a consumer side if this happens and the Telcos and overbuilders make counter-moves. It will be interesting to see who blinks first... | |
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Klink123
join:2003-04-16
Sylmar, CA
| Argh! Well,I don't think you'll get those speeds for the same price. After all,Look what he's done to the little people!
1- If you don't buy catv service,We wont love you anymore
and JACK UP THE RATE!
2-NO MORE UNLIMITED NEWS GROUPS!
I would rather have a half-speed,unlimited Newsserver,Low
ping Dsl line. I don't think a few kb/s is going to
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Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Argh! I suppose I don't need unlimited news. Everything in newsgroups can be easily be found by at least 3 other sources. I get 20ms pings to dslreports on my comcast connection and pull about 200k/sec on my p2p apps.
I believe that speed really will cause a lot of people to either switch to comcast, or stop people from switching elsewhere.
Considering that I've been doing ISP support for nearly 5 years now, there are a ton of people who always want their speed. It can never be fast enough, and people will go to the fastest provider.
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Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth | Re: Argh! Yeah, and what about those who can get DSL for $29.95 with the Veriations package? Nobody says anything negative about that. | |
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49.95 3.5/800 connection.
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Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| Re: Increasing speed is a good strategy While Comcast advertises 1500 kbps, their caps for standard service have been at 1800 kbps for some time now. Cable speeds are more likely based on local network capacity / number of users / assumed peak load model than being totally arbitrary. Raising the download caps may be easy if there is spare bandwidth on the local download channels. It creates other issues if the system is already running near capacity.
The upload side is an entirely different animal.
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join:2000-05-19
Fort Myers, FL | What ever happend to sdsl? When I had Flashcom with northpoint I had a 1.5Mb/s for both up and download. What happend to the good ole days of SDSL? | |
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Speedy8
Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
clubs:
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join:2002-07-14
Panama City, FL
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@aol.com
| Re: Bigger, Faster, Better ``If they can do what they say they can do, they have brought it up to a point where it takes a wellfinanced, sophisticated organization to carry it further,'' said Merle Temple, Augusta-area public relations director for BellSouth. He brought an engineer to the demonstration to see if Mr. Fogal's technology offers highquality communications on ordinary telephone wires at a fraction of the cost of fiber optic cable."
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(topic move) (topic move) more speed?