  fegulPremium
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kudos:1 | They'll get there... When there's a want, there's a will, and there IS a want in terms of piracy. Good luck! 
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 |  FLECOMBay Networks FreakPremium
join:2003-03-03
Miami, FL | Re: They'll get there... BitTorrent is NOT just for piracy!!!
(its for pr0n too  )
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| |  Speedy8Premium
join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH | Re: They'll get there... I bet most of the porn downloaded is technically copyrighted too, but for some reason there's never a big deal made about it.  | |
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| | | | | Re: They'll get there... Ah...but you'd be wrong. Many of the studios that produce porn sneak around in Newsgroups and send their own C&D letters, then "negotiate" to settle for about $500. I know, it happened to a friend of mine. He was too embarrassed to do anything but settle...kinda funny since I'm not sure the content would have even been legal to distribute under state law | |
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|  NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ | said by fegul:When there's a want, there's a will, and there IS a want in terms of piracy. I agree.
Their attempts to stop piracy are futile.
WHEN will they realize this? | |
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| |  scoobyPremium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
kudos:1 | Re: They'll get there... Its like the "War on Drugs". Both are futile and a big waste of money. | |
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| | |  starstuffFly By WirePremium
join:2001-12-05
Mcallen, TX | Re: They'll get there... said by scooby:Its like the "War on Drugs". Both are futile and a big waste of money. ... but a BIG jobs maker. This is how you keep demented people hired and spending money.
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| |  Albo
join:2002-09-06
Brooklyn, NY | "notes the closures simply shifted the Torrent piracy around a bit, to other websites"
that its just hilarious lmao  | |
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| | | NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM
join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ | Re: They'll get there... said by Albo:"notes the closures simply shifted the Torrent piracy around a bit, to other websites" that its just hilarious lmao I agree, all it did was force BT pirates to learn IRC. | |
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|  53059959Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | cant beat the warez machine. normally I download a movie everytime I see a thread like this about anti-piracy, but there arent any good ones out at the moment =| | |
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| | | | Re: They'll get there... Its not the warez machine, but the information machine. All movies and music are are forms of information. These companies think its in their entire right to create it then control how it is used down to the infinitismal "if you bought this cd for your home, you cannot copy it to play it in your car." Just because you pay to have a law written your way doesn't make the law right.
Now, granted they should have rights, but NOT to the point that they are flaunting and abusing them to to this day. I mean Disney sued someone out of making an updated Snow White, and the original story has been in public domain now for several hundred years, Grimms Bro's anyone?
The Ipod has already shown that new and older popular music has a place being sold online. Music/Movie profits are ever growing. But that won't stop anyone from creating an industry around anti-piracy.
With movies, i believe the day of the current business structure behind it is coming to an end. But the MPAA banks on being able to show it limited release in the theatres, then doling it out to DvD for rental or purchase many months later, then over to PPV, then the movie channels get it, then the broadcast channels hack it up for commericals and put it on tv.
But funnily enough the numbers for profit and loss they produce only show theater profit, yet they rake in so much more. If they wanted to truly stop piracy they have it in their hands to do it, just beat the pirates by releasing it sooner on dvd or alternatively the internet. Stop the outdated BS of profit making and learn that times change. Stop thinking that by suing everyone that you are suddenly going to create "Good Consumers". Deadbeats will always be, but with our fast-food society and content on-demand ever looming, they need a change, and fast.
If you are hurting for money that bad, then stop advertising so damn much, repeated advertisements for a movie that sucks does not make the movie one iota better. And stop making crap, and stop suing people for not paying to find out its crap. | |
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| | | | | Re: They'll get there... said by RipTides:With movies, I believe the day of the current business structure behind it is coming to an end. Personally I don't see anythying wrong with the movie industry's current business model at all.
First is the theater release, which is still a valid market. Most of the time you really can't get the theater experience at home. Yeah you can say it's loud and you have that baby crying in front of you and that kid kicking your seat behind you, but that's not all the time (unless you keep going to the wrong theaters at the wrong times). Actually seeing a new release with an excited crowd only adds to the fun. Either way the theaters rely on exlusive coverage of these movies to stay in business, which is another reason why I endorse the model.
After the main theater release you get the brief dollar movie release, which gives you a similar theater experience while at the same time being cheaper than a rental. Again a good move for people who want to see the movie on the big screen but can't afford the $8 tickets at the local AMC. Maybe not as good a theater, but they usually work for the money.
Nowadays there are movies that are starting to be available on DVD right after this... sometimes while the movie is still being run in the dollar movie circuit. If not then they come out on Pay-Per-View. That's a medium I don't jibe with (too expensive for what you get), but to each his own. Then you have rentals, which make a whole different market.
The system works because it's progressively giving you a different entertainment experience on the same movie. It also works because the payoff is rather fast these days. If a movie doesn't come to DVD when it's still on PPV rotation then it will just a couple months later.
If you want to see it at home right when it comes to the theaters well then you have P2P  . If you ask me unless you're just canvassing the movie to see if you want to pay money for it you're doing yourself a disservice by just hoarding P2P copies and not actually going out and seeing the film.
Either way (just as you said) the movie industry will not be hurting if things stay status quo. People who want to go to theaters can do so. People who want to own the movie just need to wait a little while (my God people just have a little patience). P2P can help give quality movies more support much like it can with music. In the end the numbers all figure and the studios get their money. | |
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join:2002-08-20
Chicago, IL | Whack-a-mole Hit one on the head, another pops up. | |
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| | | Re: Whack-a-mole I think the hydra analogy is closer: cut off one head, more appear to replace it. The cat's out of the p2p bag, this thing is growing, not getting smaller.
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join:2004-10-23
Rantoul, IL
kudos:1 | You think they would have given up by now... The more you push against it, the bigger and more widespread it becomes.... | |
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| | | Re: You think they would have given up by now... I think it would be easier for us to roll over and die then for them to keep pursuing? | |
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join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
kudos:1 | let them fail again Soon there will be another way, to trade files, they just keep killing them, only to make them stronger. | |
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 KeepOnRockinMusic Lover ForeverPremium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
2 edits | Fruitless Or to use another analogy, it's like the mythical hyrda creature.
Cut one head off, and two grow back. Soon the fire-breathing heads will overwhelm the hero. | |
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|  tmdrake
join:2001-12-12
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA | Re: Fruitless ..Just like those creature in "hellboy" I think there called Samial? or somthing? LOL.. Anyhow.
TWO words for RIAA: "G1V3 UP!".
In my opinion, someone really needs to do something about this spyware/malware crap instead of p2p issues. It seems to be getting worst every week! | |
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| | | When the RIAA targeted Napster, they only spread the word on mp3s and filesharing. Now, it is out of control. Who knows what the future sharing protocols are going to be like. Hopefully, the networks will at least devise a way so that you can download TV episodes that you missed and create a legitimate way to get your episodes kind of like Apple's itunes. | |
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| | | | Re: Fruitless I'd like to take a second to thank Lars Ulrich of Metallica for suing Napster. Phew, filesharing coulda got really uncontrollable without THAT lawsuit! | |
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| | | | When the RIAA targeted Napster, they only spread the word on mp3s and filesharing.
Yup. I didn't know about P2P until the RIAA went after Napster, now I use it but legally, I upload things like unknown bands music to spread it around and spread their horizons. | |
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join:2001-06-11
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kudos:2 | IRC and Newsgroups "Of course the primary trading still goes on via IRC and Newsgroups" - This is completely false! Yes, most stuff out there starts on IRC and/or newsgroups, but gets the most widely disributed via P2P users and torrents. You ask your average Joe what a newsgroup is and they will have no clue what-so-ever. Using IRC and newsgroups is far to intimidating for the average user.
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|  fatal
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: IRC and Newsgroups "This is completely false! Yes, most stuff out there starts on IRC and/or newsgroups"
haha you have no clue | |
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Bronx, NY | Re: IRC and Newsgroups yea pro`s use irc and newsgroups we avergae users rely on bit-torrent...shareaza...emule....xfactor ect
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| | | | | Re: IRC and Newsgroups said by intocable7:yea pro`s use irc and newsgroups ;) We're "Pro's" now are we?? LMAO | |
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Cheyenne, WY | said by intocable7:yea pro`s use irc and newsgroups we avergae users rely on bit-torrent...shareaza...emule....xfactor ect I use IRC, and I have used newsgroups. This hasn't stopped me from using bittorrent, even though I am a "pro."
However, I have stopped downloading movies from bittorrent. I mainly use it for TV shows I have missed.
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| | PhilRojo SolPremium
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kudos:2 | said by fatal:"This is completely false! Yes, most stuff out there starts on IRC and/or newsgroups" haha you have no clue Way to make an argument...
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| | | CablePremium
join:2004-06-06
1 edit | Re: IRC and Newsgroups Exeem that new mix of Bittorent and Kazza that suprnova and someone else is working on is suppose to be released this week | |
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| | Get Real They think attacking p2p will solve piracy? I'd like to know what drugs they're taking.
Like I've posted before, p2p is hardly the be-all-end-all of piracy, in fact all it nets them is Joe Average. In the meantime, the REAL pirates, the ones who own dvd presses and live like drug lords, continue to peddle their warez on the street. As I type this, I have a stack of $5 pirated dvd movies sitting on my desk. You think this stuff comes from p2p? xxAA, get a frickin' clue. The real pirates come from your own back yards, selling out for a quick buck.
Sure, "kill" p2p (like that's going to be possible, but humour me here a moment) and they'll make it harder for Joe Average to get warez -- but if they think people will just roll over and go back to their pre-warez world, they're sorely mistaken.
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| | Lost Battle Totally true, it's a whack-a-mole game... and the RIAA will never win. I won't mention the URL or the name of the site, but there's a 'new' alternative site to a very popular one that was shutdown last month, and people are signing up on it like crazy.. and it's a matter of weeks at the most till they have the same amount of stuff the 'big' bit torrent sites had before they were shutdown..
p2p is awesome, I use Bit Torrent to download average-joe-tourist-in-thailand tsunami videos from »www.waveofdestruction.org
I also found software for my Canon digital camera (without which I couldn't get my digi pics onto my computer) on p2p, which Canon didn't have to download and no longer supported.
Long live p2p.
Message to Authorities/RIAA&MPAA Nazis : FORGET IT, IT'S A LOST BATTLE FOR YOU GUYS!! Get a clue, you guys are wasting your time! Sites will simply move offshore if you keep trying to shut them down, and once they're there they're out of your control! Duh! Get a life!
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| | Silly Rabbit... tricks are for us kids.;) when will they ever learn that? the more they make a stink, the more fabreeze were gonna use. they will never have 100% complacency. dumba$$e$.
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 Doctor FourMy other vehicle is a TARDISPremium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | MPAA's tactics against BT parallel Napster closing The MPAA's whack-a-mole strategy at stopping BitTorrent
trading closely resembles that of the RIAA just after
Napster was shut down. And with similar effects. Everybody
but the MPAA themselves seem to realize what a colossal
exercise in futility this is turning out to be - they will
only make a tiny dent in BT trading, and succeed in pushing
tracker sites further out of their reach than ever before.
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| | And the winners are...... The lawyers...who else? MPAA are fighting a battle they will never win. The f***ing lawyers make out no matter what! (Can you tell I hate lawyers?) | |
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| | | Re: And the winners are...... It's a good time to be a lawyer though. Just sit and push some paper around, easy money. Then go home and download via p2p yourself. lol. You can't say for sure 100% of them are all bad.
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@69-4-135-nokia-dsl.d | MPAA shoots self in foot...and reloads! Well, just in case there weren't enough downloaders out there, the MPAA in a senseless effort to scare p2p users, has let the cat out of the bag. Trackers of torrent sites have registered aprroximately a 500% increase in downloading since the MPAA newspaper artilces and "lawsuits" first appeared. Actually, there is no formal record of a lawsuit anywhere, just threatening form letters claiming to be from the mpaa. Each letter is the same right down to the incorrect IP Address. When will they learn???
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| Chosen1
join:2001-08-05
Orange Park, FL | Re: MPAA shoots self in foot...and reloads! You know what's funny? I never heard of torrents before this whole push by the XXAAs a few months ago. I was strictly a newsgroup & IRC guy (gave up on Kazaa and the like a long time ago). Their crusade has actually helped me (and others I'm sure) learn about this option for P2P.
Thanks MPAA/RIAA !!!
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| | ALL P2P Pirates are going down !!! Denial doesn't change reality. All P2P Pirates and the whores that facilitate theft of copyright protected works are going down. You'll have a nice view from the Iron Bar Hotel. | |
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 adimitriMETS - 2006 NL EAST
join:2004-10-11
Oakland Gardens, NY | Its just a Detterent It is not that they know they are going to stop it, but rather scare the average users who don't know better into stopping. When the RIAA started suing Kazaa, none of my friends wanted to download music for months, some STILL don't. | |
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| | Lest we forget .... "Home taping is killing music". | |
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| | STOP! I really wish news sites like these would stop pointing the RIAA and MPAA in the right direction.  | |
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| | .. Piracy are dieing but so are lamers | |
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| movies a guy who is a good friend of mine cleans the movie theater carpets everynight and if i wanted too, he wouldnt give 2 shits about it, um go help him for free, set up a vid cam and hook it to the headsets they have now (for perfect audio) and go play the movie myself and record it totally commotion free. the MPAA thinks it is someone sitting in a crowded theater when in fact it is REAL easy to play a movie and record it when you have a buddy who cleans the carpets when NO ONE is in there and you have the key to everything. | |
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| | Follow the money So long as lawyers can keep their meters running, as in billable hours, the XXAAs will keep kidding themselves that all the lawsuits make a difference.. The second the lawyers are muzzled, the MPAA et al; will figure out a model that makes money and allows downloading... | |
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So why go after the 13 year old zithead?
