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rudnicke
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2010-Jun-29 4:23 pm
Believe itI'll believe it when I see it. | |
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56403739 (banned)
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2010-Jun-29 6:33 pm
Re: Believe itMan, I wish it were true. Get these whining suckers off the AT&T network and let the rest of us with sense enough not to believe Apple's Hype Machine get some work done... | |
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| N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano Premium Member join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs |
to rudnicke
Ditto. Now that all the major carriers have access to phones that compete well with the iPhone I wonder if Apple hasn't missed its chance.
When the IPhone comes to VZW, people will line up, and it will sell in droves. I may or may not be one of those people that bites. Probably not. I like to tinker with my gadgets, and the iPhone isn't as open as some other handsets.
We will see. I still say Apple has developed a CDMA handset in secret parallel to GSM handsets. It would mirror the strategy they took in developing OS X in parallel on Intel and PPC platforms...... | |
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I wish I had a nickel every time I've heard this. Same scenario too. "People familiar with the plans" who don't want to be identified.... Same stuff.
Whether it happens or not, I don't know. I guess the people who keep mentioning this keep up with the same story will eventually get it right.
If it is true, I doubt it would be announced during CES. Companies usually use CES to announce new products. This isn't. Also, Apple consistently thumbs their nose at CES. I can't see an iPhone announcement made at CES, even if it would be announced by Verizon. And really, will Verizon be displaying these new iPhones at CES? | |
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T-mobileAnyone besides Verizon or Sprint | |
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| en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
en102
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2010-Jun-29 4:49 pm
Re: T-mobilePersonally... I'd like to see it on T-Mobile as well (vs. Sprint/VZW). I have no issues with Sprint, I've had past issues with VZW/VZ. T-Mobile is the 'easiest' fit - just have to change the radio frequencies, vs. a chipset. | |
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Re: T-mobileT-Mo is a horrible idea. 3G is limited. Edge sucks. I live 25 Miles south of Minneapolis/St. Paul and only get Edge on T-Mo. Meanwhile I get 3G on Verizon.
If Apple wants to really rise it will be with Verizon. T-Mo and Sprint is the best way. They will get them the growth they want to compete with Verizon and AT&T. | |
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2010-Jun-29 9:40 pm
Re: T-mobilesaid by Big Dawg 23:T-Mo is a horrible idea. 3G is limited. Edge sucks. I live 25 Miles south of Minneapolis/St. Paul and only get Edge on T-Mo. Meanwhile I get 3G on Verizon. If Apple wants to really rise it will be with Verizon. T-Mo and Sprint is the best way. They will get them the growth they want to compete with Verizon and AT&T. I have had T-Mobile for five years and I'll agree that their rural coverage can be problematic. They are more of an urban/suburban carrier. Part of that is due to their use of frequencies at 1700MHz and above which have limited coverage and poor penetration. In ZIP code 11732, which is a suburb of NYC about 20 miles out here on Long Island, they have almost no coverage. AT&T and Verizon are able to get signals in through the greater coverage afforded by 850MHz. Still I wouldn't trade T-Mobile for either AT&T or Verizon. I just don't see the value in their plans. | |
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bdon78I didn't do it join:2009-05-18 Decatur, GA 1 edit |
bdon78
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2010-Jun-29 4:34 pm
Server MemoryThat's right.. server memory.
That is what dslreports.com and every other blog would need to increase if I wanted to post a list of links to every past rumor related to a Verizon iPhone.
I agree with the first poster.. I'll believe it when I see it a Verizon kiosk (and by that I don't mean in the hands of an employee who just loves apple) | |
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glinc
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2010-Jun-29 4:34 pm
blah blah blahIt seems that these people who write articles for these websites/magazines are running out of ideas of what to write. | |
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Subaru1-3-2-4 Premium Member join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT |
Subaru
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2010-Jun-29 4:41 pm
Why the hypeOver Verizon just getting the iphone? So if it ever happens is it going to make them feel better? | |
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i1me2ao Premium Member join:2001-03-03 TEXAS |
i1me2ao
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2010-Jun-29 4:42 pm
sureyou will get 5mb dowload on odd days of the month and 5kb on even days. then it will only be 199.00 a month for the data plan.. | |
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2010-Jun-29 4:47 pm
No more of these articlesUntil Verizon or Steve Jobs says it's true. | |
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| en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
en102
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2010-Jun-29 4:50 pm
Re: No more of these articlesI agree... this is getting tiresome - boring rumor mill. | |
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| cringey Premium Member join:2002-02-07 Whitehouse Station, NJ 1 edit |
to 88615298
Jobs won't want to spoil the AT&T honeypot so you won't hear anything from him closer to its release.
If he announces it now then there are 6 months of lost business for them and AT&T.
Only VZW would stand to gain so only leaks would come from them. | |
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| Subaru1-3-2-4 Premium Member join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT |
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said by 88615298:Until Verizon or Steve Jobs says it's true. I hope they do the same for Wimax all I hear is the same stuff over and over but I've never seen any real world widespread use of this. | |
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said by 88615298:Until Verizon or Steve Jobs says it's true. | |
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jmn1207 Premium Member join:2000-07-19 Sterling, VA |
jmn1207
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2010-Jun-29 5:14 pm
Danger! Danger!This might hurt Apple's bottom dollar if this report is true. People might hold out and wait for 6 months instead of getting a new iPhone 4.
I hope Amy Thomson's place doesn't get ransacked by the police for divulging this information. | |
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2010-Jun-29 5:31 pm
Re: Danger! Danger!said by jmn1207:This might hurt Apple's bottom dollar if this report is true. People might hold out and wait for 6 months instead of getting a new iPhone 4. I hope Amy Thomson's place doesn't get ransacked by the police for divulging this information. As opposed to waiting 6 months, then nothing, and then going to the AT&T/Apple store to get an iPhone 4? | |
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jmn1207
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2010-Jun-29 6:45 pm
Re: Danger! Danger!I suppose it really doesn't matter, as it seems as if an overwhelming majority of their devices sell on day one and through the backorders that are inevitably created. Once they catch up on those, sales are rather flat and almost die in the weeks leading up to the release of their next version.
The key, apparently, is having enough versions and release schedules to keep each quarter looking rosy to the investors. Normal version here, 3G version next, then a European release, etc. etc. I've been told that they will even purposely hold back on the number of units manufactured in an effort to stretch the sales across a quarter in order to keep the numbers adjusted correctly for maximum marketing effect. (not really, just making stuff up) | |
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jfmezei Premium Member join:2007-01-03 Pointe-Claire, QC |
jfmezei
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2010-Jun-29 5:37 pm
With Verizon going LTE, anything is possibleWith Verizon starting LTE trials now, it would not susprise me one bit to see Apple produce an unlocked LTE iphone and ipad and make it available to Verizon and anyone else on LTE.
Such a phone would not have CDMA support. So it would work only in areas with LTE coverage. There is no point in Apple producing a CDMA version of an itphone now. It is not clear of the LTE protocol allows a fallback to non GSM stack when you move out of range of an LTE antenna.
GSM did not have fallback to analogue when it came to north america. There were a couple of phones that supported both (Nokia 6190 for instance) but a call had to end, and you have to initiate a new call to switch from analogue to GSM or vice versa.
one possibility would be a CDMA "stick" that could be plugged into the LTE iPhone to provide service outside of LTE coverage area.
Or Verizon could simply strike a roaming deal with AT&T or Tmobile to support its LTE customers when they are out of coverage area.
The fact that Apple has begun to sell never-locked phones in Canada, and that its ipad is sold as a "never locked" device means that never locekd iphones are probably on the hgorizon in the USA to support multiple networks.
Of course, as the iphone4 does not support 1700mhz, it won't work on Tmobile 3g, so an unlocked iphone in the USA still means it is limited to AT&T, but would allow you to trravel outside of USA and use local sim cards. | |
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Crippled iPhoneSo here comes the new but crippled iphone, just like all the other verizon phones. | |
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Re: Crippled iPhoneIf you REALLY think that, then you don't know apple too well.. and if Verizon wanted to cripple the iPhone, then these articles and various people gossiping about an iPhone on Verizon would be a complete waste of time.
Please, tell me when apple has ever allowed the notion that their stuff could be controlled by someone other than themselves... in case you forgot, there was a reason why iPhone didn't make it to Verizon the first time around.
What I'M still trying to figure out is why everyone has their sights set for Verizon getting the iPhone where there is still Sprint and T-Mo out there which are also, I dunno,.. cell phone carriers? I'm just trying to figure out this whole love-notion for Verizon and the iPhone.
Even if this article and the rest were to be true, it's NOTHING but rumor until APPLE says it's a fact. | |
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Re: Crippled iPhoneThat is why I do not think Verizon will EVER sell a single iPhone.
Verizon demands FULL control on everything they support.
Apple demands FULL control on everything they support.
The two could NEVER play well with each other. | |
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A year ago, I'd have agreed with you, but now, with AT&T having turned into a total control freak, I don't think you're going to see anything any more crippled than the Death Star is already selling. | |
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My Droid isn't crippled... May want to check facts before making blanket statments. | |
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to SEREGA784
That's funny, Verizon's current big line are the Droid phones and they aren't crippled, yet AT&T's Android based phone is. | |
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| N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano Premium Member join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs |
to SEREGA784
Has Verizon crippled any of the Droid phones its put out so far? I don't think so.. | |
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said by SEREGA784:So here comes the new but crippled iphone, just like all the other verizon phones. I have a totally un-crippled, Blackberry Bold on Verizon. They no longer cripple their phones. That's so 2007.....lol the new iPhone will be a dual mode CDMA/LTE as will all of their phones going forward, much like the days when tri-mode phones were in (Analog, Digital and PCS). | |
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said by SEREGA784:So here comes the new but crippled iphone, just like all the other verizon phones. How are the google smartphones on verizon crippled? | |
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gball
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2010-Jun-29 5:57 pm
HmmmmSince when did Verizon start selling cameras? They should skip this and stick to just selling phones. | |
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RolteC
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2010-Jun-29 6:24 pm
Re: HmmmmAugust/October ? | |
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Re: ENOUGH B.S.IM pretty sure this is pure hype and B.S. as it always it I believe the first step for apple once they come off there exclusivity with ATT ( whenever that may be) is unlocked iphones for all GSM providers next IE t-mobile and prepaid companies. The next iphone will have 1700 mhz built in but will still have the quad band GSM mhz for worldwide GSM usage.. going CDMA and reconfiguring apple and there tech depts for verizon, not gonna happen unless Verizon paid them too. | |
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2010-Jun-29 6:19 pm
LOLSorry I can't help but laugh LOL everytime it just keeps coming back. | |
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jfmezei
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2010-Jun-29 8:29 pm
Re: BullIf Verizon is the first out with LTE, then it is quite possible that they would be first to get an LTE iPhone.
The iphone may still have this "blessed" image that makes everyone want one, but Apple knows full well that HTC and Balckberry are mighty competitors and it cannot ignore them.
If Apple is seen as being too late for the LTE market, it stands to lose market share. Remember that for Apple products, image is an important aspect. | |
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No more, pleaseI'm not an anonymous tipster, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but my two cents worth is that Verizon has given up on getting the iPhone in the near future, if they ever were chomping at the bit to get it in the first place. With the new rebranding and the pushing of the Droids, it seems a little far fetched to think they've secretly got the iPhone coming in 6 months. My guess is the iPhone will come to Verizon (or anybody else) as soon as sales stagnate on AT&T. When that happens is anybodies guess, but even Apple will run out of suckers to sell their stuff to on AT&T eventually. | |
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weaver0
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2010-Jun-30 10:52 am
let's see what madam ruby sees....These predictions have been circulating since the arpanet days. | |
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