 | | you have got to be shitting me i really hope this is fake, and just a joke, because if it is, it makes me wary of every flying again. Who knows what else they used improper things for testing stuff? the fruitcake who came up with this idea should be fired and castrated. | |
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|  tshirtPremium,MVM
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| |  antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP
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| Re: you have got to be shitting me said by tshirt:It's true, and the story misses a lot without the picture.
»www.networkworld.com/community/b···-signals has a video from Boeing Labs.
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|  60632649Premium
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New York, NY | Mr. Potato Head get's his revenge, he has to purse his lips a bit to look like obama looking like clinton saying "I did not have sex with that woman" and "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." | |
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| | | sounds like a pretty good test from what I can tell. most people are about as dumb as a sack of potatoes anyway. I'm surprised they didn't use the same sacks of potatoes to test those TSA scanners as well.. Then again if they did, you would have had alot of baked potatoes.. | |
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| | 60632649Premium
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New York, NY | Re: you have got to be shitting me Hey man, comparing TSA screeners to a sack of potatoes would be an insult to a sack of potatoes. | |
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| | | Human Analogs! Mr. Potato Heads. Did they give each one a funny mustache or hat? What about the feet? Dammit, I demand comical accuracy. | |
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| TheMGPremium
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Canada
kudos:2 | said by Chubbysumo:i really hope this is fake, and just a joke, because if it is, it makes me wary of every flying again. Who knows what else they used improper things for testing stuff? the fruitcake who came up with this idea should be fired and castrated.
What's wrong with that? Obviously they didn't want to use real passengers in the initial tests in case something went wrong.
What they were doing is using the potatoes to simulate the way the human bodies of passengers absorbs RF energy from the WiFi devices, which operate at 2.4GHz (the same frequency as microwave ovens, by the way).
This simulates the way RF from WiFi devices would propagate through the cabin in the presence of passengers, which is obviously different than an empty aircraft.
Makes perfect sense to me. | |
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|  SteveI know your IP addressConsultant
join:2001-03-10
Yorba Linda, CA
kudos:5 | said by Chubbysumo: the fruitcake who came up with this idea should be fired and castrated. So: you're seriously claiming that you have a better handle on how to appropriately and effectively test avionics technology than the folks who have flown you all over the country and put men and vehicles in space?
Really? | |
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| | | Careful - 100 Fruitcake's were used to to test the In-flight phone system (Just kidding). | |
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 RobIn Deo speramus.Premium
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kudos:3 | First World Problems? We want to test an additional luxury.. so we shall test it using 20k lbs of potatoes.
Why not donate the 20k lbs of potatoes to those who could use food in their stomach?
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| tshirtPremium,MVM
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kudos:3 | Re: First World Problems? I believe they did afterwards.
Better than spending million building special human RF analogs (crash test dummies, not for crashing) | |
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|  Thrudd
join:2004-06-21
Mississauga, ON | Truth be told the 20k of spuds is a far more cost effective analog to bags of mostly water when talking RF energy.
And guess what? The spuds can go to the cafeteria after the test.
Could you imagine the logistics, delays and costs if they attempted to build something via government committee?
Score one for the engineers responsible being allowed to be frugal Yet creative using SCIENCE. | |
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kudos:5 |  Were those "Couch Potatoes" ?
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| | Electronics in flight Don't you just love that there was so much certainty that electronic signals were going to cause problems.
But once it became a business advantage, and pilots wanted their electronic flight pads, there is all the effort to prove it's not...
Seems that if there was so much possibilty that it was, pilots in the cockpit would have been making quite a bit of noise by now...
"Wow look at that reading of the VOR swing when I flip on my Ipad" | |
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| Re: Electronics in flight said by ExAviator :Don't you just love that there was so much certainty that electronic signals were going to cause problems.
It wasn't a bad idea to start out carefully, this isn't something you want to get wrong. | |
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Dacula, GA | Gives new meaning to the term "couch potato" I wonder if the testers saw "eye to eye" on this. | |
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hereandthere
1 edit | Boeing Using Potatoes to Test In-Plane Wi-Fi It doesn't matter anyway, in the end it will all be up to some little man working at the FAA who has a gut feeling if its bad or not for us poor little humans.
They haven't been able to make a good decision on this stuff for years..I doubt much is going to change. | |
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1 edit | I am sure the "Chemtrail" nuts (Chemtrailologists)
Inflight solanine or chaconine gas production supplies |
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kudos:1 | Excellent Choice Well, the intelligence of the average person and a sack of potatoes would be almost equal with the mental advantage going to the spuds in most cases..........  | |
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 exocet_cmI am the law - Judge DreddPremium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2 | Gotta watch the video It makes more sense after watching the video. Sounds stupid reading the text alone. | |
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Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | 20,000 Pounds "...of potatoes!"
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|  dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on holdPremium
join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ | Re: 20,000 Pounds said by jmn1207:"...of potatoes!"
-Big John Wallace-
Harry, it sucks! | |
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| | I agree with this being absurd Instead of using a cheap sack of potatoes to mimic the human body's effect on radio waves, I think they should use an extremely complicated, and expensive collection of electronic devices: ones that only I sell.  | |
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| | Potatoes do represent humans The reason sacks of potatoes were used in this test is due to the fact that they absorb microwaves just as our bodies do. However due to the uniformity of a potato, they are not prone to hot spots as our bodies are. When a person holds a wireless gadget to their head or body there may be internal hotspots that are dangerously high. If someone is stuck sitting in the seat next to the WiFi transmitter the microwaves to and from that transmitter will go through their body with much of it being absorbed. This too can lead to dangerously high internal hot spots. This test is intended to find out how many transmitters are needed to thoroughly cook us all while still allowing us to surf the net and keep the plane in the air. People like to make fun of tin foil hats, but metal shielding is exactly what the airlines use to shield their sensitive electronics. Our hearts and brains are our sensitive electronics. It is foolish to not shield them too. Please read through this site - »emfwise.com/ - to get a better understanding of the harm we suffer due to microwave radiation from our wireless gadgets. | |
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| cOOLguy
join:2009-09-10
Torrington, CT | Re: Potatoes do represent humans No biggie here, back in teh day, Motorola used a column of salt water to represent a human with a pager on its belt. Supposedly the antenna gain factor would increase by 3db near the water and thus near a human.
Ok so we are not tuning antennas in this application but the body does have an effect on propagation.
Anyhow, potatoes are more practical than instrumented cadavers. | |
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kudos:5 | Yea "I find the standby radiation of my acquaintance’s iPad irritating to my brain even one room away" LOL
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