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First step toward stronger, three strikes policy?
(old news - 10:23AM Thursday Jul 24 2008)
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Britain's six largest Internet providers (BT, Virgin Media, Orange, Tiscali, BSkyB and Carphone Warehouse) have collectively agreed to a plan by the entertainment industry that would have them send letters to subscribers informing them that their P2P use is being monitored. The plan does not involve ISPs terminating the accounts of any users -- yet. According to Reuters UK, the plan could still evolve into a "three strikes" policy, where a user faces account termination on the third offense.

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anon64690

@verizon.net

WTF

This isn't good. Once one group starts the others will want to follow. I can only hope that net neutrality passes in America.

LiamJunket
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Re: WTF

said by anon64690 :

This isn't good. Once one group starts the others will want to follow. I can only hope that net neutrality passes in America.
The train is leaving the station - all aboard. The U.S. won't be far behind.
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Jehu
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Re: WTF

said by LiamJunket See Profile :

The train is leaving the station - all aboard. The U.S. won't be far behind.
Indeed.. one might describe this trend as letting the genie out of the bottle.. can't put'em back in.

Piracy is well on its way back to the underground, where it belongs.
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a333
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"The train is leaving the station - all aboard. The U.S. won't be far behind."

In that case, it's safe to say that the track crossties/fishplates a mile away from the station are in pretty bad shape......

snipper_cr

join:2002-01-22
Wheaton, IL
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said by anon64690 :

I can only hope that net neutrality passes in America.
Im supprised no one has chimed in claiming "that is NOT what net neutrality is about!!!!!11one"

but if the entertainment industry was able to push it through our neighbors across the pond, we'll be expecting it here soon too...
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Pv8man999

@sbcglobal.net

Loss of income

Would that result in a loss of many customers?

Would the RIAA/MPAA re-emburse the ISP's for the lost subscriptions?

Pv8man999

@sbcglobal.net

Loss of income?

Ok, I'll post my question again.

If they eventually do include the account termination in the plan. Would the entertainment industry reimburse the ISP's for the lost customers?
nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

Re: Loss of income?

said by Pv8man999 :

Ok, I'll post my question again.

If they eventually do include the account termination in the plan. Would the entertainment industry reimburse the ISP's for the lost customers?
simple answers to simple questions:

No.
battleop

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I doubt it. They would save more money by getting rid of people who drain resources from the network. I.E. Bittorrent.

./flame on
EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

Re: Loss of income?

One can easily pirate illegal media without draining the network- the problem is the morons who leave everything at 100% constantly at peak hours.

AlexNYC

join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO

How?

I am more interested in "HOW" exactly they are planing to monitor encrypted torrent connections?
ross

join:2000-08-16
·Digizip

Re: How?

said by AlexNYC See Profile :

I am more interested in "HOW" exactly they are planing to monitor encrypted torrent connections?
Same premise they use now would be implemented, i.e., "Guilty, until proven innocent". Encrypted traffic=Piracy! Encrypted traffic=Terrorists. High volume traffic=Piracy!

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This will merely drive people to less traceable methods

Of getting the music, movies, TV shows and software they
want. Gnutella and BitTorrent are by no means the only way
of getting content from the Internet - there's private FTP
sites, IRC, Usenet, Rapidshare and Megaupload. Even Google
can be used to search for infringing content. Of course,
the other methods are usually more complicated to use than
p2p.
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"The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)

Ual

@bellsouth.net

Sounds like a threat..

If you send somebody a letter saying "I'm watching everything you do." do you go with:
A) That's ok, since I don't do anything wrong I'm fine with that.
B) That sounded like a threat, I should contact the police.

Or does a company making threats entitle them to special treatment over what an individual saying the same thing would be treated like?

Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net

I just hope

This does not impact my ability to obtain and watch British Documentary programing from the BBC and Channel4 which is not available State side. Such as "The Sky at Night, Time Team, etc. I could careless about P2P music downloading.
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mrchris
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North Babylon, NY

Good luck...

...Dealing with the Asian and East European counterfeiters selling wares on the streets..

The vast majority of material being shared does not deserve to be compensated since the big record companies get nearly all the money from sales anyway.

menumorut
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Queens Village, NY

Re: Good luck...

said by mrchris See Profile :

...Dealing with the Asian and East European counterfeiters selling wares on the streets..

The vast majority of material being shared does not deserve to be compensated since the big record companies get nearly all the money from sales anyway.
How about the small businesses (eg.music stores, software stores) that cannot compete with the overhead that street vendors have(read:none)?

Should they be compensated?
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Shriyash
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PuNe, InDiA

This is what is called the 'Totalitarian Tiptoe'.

The Totalitarian Tiptoe is the world domination method of slow encroachment on civil liberties and freedoms, used by a small few that want to control the world, and of course this includes the internet.

The Totalitarian Tiptoe involves small, easily-accepted (and less noticable) steps to achieve a pre-desired endpoint that would otherwise be totally discarded by the general populace of the world.
From:
»tinwiki.org/wiki/Totalitarian_Tiptoe
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