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Camden, TN | Of course it doesn't affect BS users we are already paying more than the new prices
FastAccess DSL 768K: $19.95 per month
FastAccess DSL 1.5M: $32.95 per month
FastAccess DSL 3.0M: $37.95 per month
FastAccess DSL 6.0M: $42.95 per month | |
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join:2006-07-24
West Hartford, CT
| $30 Dial Up..... man, i could still remember the days when AOL/Compuserve charged customers $20-$30 a month for dial up...i wonder what happened to them now....
these gorillas are trying to milk every pennies out of us while they can....i am highly confident that broadband internet will be very cheap, much like dial up now, in the very near future. | |
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| Re: $30 Dial Up..... said by smokarz  :man, i could still remember the days when AOL/Compuserve charged customers $20-$30 a month for dial up...i wonder what happened to them now.... these gorillas are trying to milk every pennies out of us while they can....i am highly confident that broadband internet will be very cheap, much like dial up now, in the very near future. Never happen. Prices will just keep going up.
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| Re: $30 Dial Up..... said by TK Junk Mail :Never happen. Prices will just keep going up. Yea, and I never needed more than 640K. | |
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| There was an upgrade option from dial-up, you could move to dsl or cable. Now that a lot of people have either of these what's the next step? There doesn't really seem to be one since AT&T is doing Uverse and only Verizon with Fios is doing something substantially different speedwise. With no really competition except cable, which around me tends to be more expensive anyway, I don't see prices doing anything but keep going up. | |
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Greer, SC | Re: Of course it doesn't affect BS users Not really, we have felt ourselves screwed ever since the "new AT&T took over | |
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Winston Salem, NC
·AT&T Southeast
| Unless you signed up for the 768KB, $10/month plan (price fixed through 12/31/2009)
said by BF69 :we are already paying more than the new prices FastAccess DSL 768K: $19.95 per month FastAccess DSL 1.5M: $32.95 per month FastAccess DSL 3.0M: $37.95 per month FastAccess DSL 6.0M: $42.95 per month | |
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| Re: Of course it doesn't affect BS users said by ncbill :Unless you signed up for the 768KB, $10/month plan (price fixed through 12/31/2009) said by BF69 :we are already paying more than the new prices FastAccess DSL 768K: $19.95 per month FastAccess DSL 1.5M: $32.95 per month FastAccess DSL 3.0M: $37.95 per month FastAccess DSL 6.0M: $42.95 per month That's only on 768 Kbps. People on 1.5 Mbps and 3 Mbps and 6 Mbps are getting screwed | |
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·DSL EXTREME
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| Re: Of course it doesn't affect BS users You pretty much have to go through a reseller
Eg. DSL-Extreme (AT&T lines)
NOTE: The starting at prices are for 1st time purchasers.
Basic DSL 384-768 / 128-384 kbps Starting At: $12.95
• $12.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Month to Month Subscription $17.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
Express DSL 384-1500 / 128-384 kbps Starting At: $17.95
• $17.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Month to Month Subscription $19.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Competitive Static IP Subscription $44.95/mo 5 Static IP(s)
• Month to Month Subscription $49.95/mo 5 Static IP(s)
Pro DSL 1500-3000 / 384-512 kbps Starting At: $22.95
• $22.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Month to Month Subscription $24.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Premium Static IP Subscription $49.95/mo 8 Static IP(s)
• Month to Month Subscription $54.95/mo 8 Static IP(s)
Elite DSL 3000-6000 / 512-768 kbps Starting At: $32.95
• Dynamic IP Subscription $32.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Month to Month Subscription $34.95/mo 5 Dynamic IP(s)
• Static IP Subscription $49.95/mo 8 Static IP(s)
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| Re: This is an increase? said by Camelot One :According to my bill, these new prices aren't changes at all. Maybe they are just dropping the $5 a month discount that always shows up? I'm on the elite tier for both lines now anyway, and as it looks like that one isn't changing.......I don't care  camelot I agree with you, i am paying for friends Internet,(pro package) *& I am paying for my Elite package,and nothing has changes on my bill,(but agains also i have EVERY option I can get from AT&T 9residential service) except for networking & u verse,
but theres one truth the O.P news story.
Comcast is like a BMW.
does that stand for
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"M" ad
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | "price war" was always propaganda this price war business has always been propaganda from the telco lobbyists and astroturfers anyway.
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join:2001-05-17
Glen Carbon, IL
| The car analogy works well So in keeping with the auto industry analogy. Cars are what? 100% more Expensive now than 10 years ago? And 400% more expensive than 20 years ago?
Why do folks in these forums think price’s Will go down anyway? Since when Do any prices for anything go down? Telecom services are supplied by “people” folks.
Pay goes up, gas goes up (the telecom fleet) so guess what?? Prices go up. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: The car analogy works well said by lvas :So in keeping with the auto industry analogy. Cars are what? 100% more Expensive now than 10 years ago? And 400% more expensive than 20 years ago? Cars did NOT cost $3,000-$5,000 in 1988. Maybe in 1978 | |
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join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
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| Re: The car analogy works well said by BF69 :said by lvas :So in keeping with the auto industry analogy. Cars are what? 100% more Expensive now than 10 years ago? And 400% more expensive than 20 years ago? Cars did NOT cost $3,000-$5,000 in 1988. Maybe in 1978 He obviously didn't much thought into it. A civic for example is only about 2-3k more than ten years ago. | |
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Ah, push it - push it real good
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The Cloud | It especially works well with a lease. Put too many miles on your Comcast car and they'll cancel you. | |
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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
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| said by lvas :... Why do folks in these forums think price’s Will go down anyway? Since when Do any prices for anything go down? Telecom services are supplied by “people” folks. Pay goes up, gas goes up (the telecom fleet) so guess what?? Prices go up. I never thought broadband prices would go down, just like I never thought TV rates would go down because of verizon FIOS. But there was massive BS about cable prices being held in check by FIOS.
prices only go down when there is competition. what the U.S. has is competition by decree: all the industry astroturfers say there will be competition as soon as you deregulate their industry, so it must be so.
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join:2001-05-17
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| Re: The car analogy works well prices go down in competition? That is not a given. again use the auto industry example. you can't argue the auto industry is not competitive - because it certainly is and prices didn't go down did they? I bought my first new car (midsize cheve 1977) for 5000. Midsize cheve's cost 20 to 25k now. My math says thats a 500% increase for the same "type" of car - from the same company. | |
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That just happened
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| Re: The car analogy works well said by lvas :prices go down in competition? That is not a given. Did you read nasadude's post?
said by nasadude :"I never thought broadband prices would go down, just like I never thought TV rates would go down because of verizon FIOS. But there was massive BS about cable prices being held in check by FIOS." I'd go one step further...the telcos told the various government bodies that prices would go down if only they'd 'get out of the way'. Hasn't happened, has it?
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join:1999-12-08
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| said by lvas :prices go down in competition? That is not a given. again use the auto industry example. you can't argue the auto industry is not competitive - because it certainly is and prices didn't go down did they? I bought my first new car (midsize cheve 1977) for 5000. Midsize cheve's cost 20 to 25k now. My math says thats a 500% increase for the same "type" of car - from the same company. Your 500% increase is way too high since it is based on the assumption that in 2008 $1 is the same as $1 in 1977. If you want to compare a 1977 price with a 2008 price you have to adjust for inflation (or purchasing power). IOW: Compute the 2008 price in 1977 equivalent dollars. YES the price has gone up but much less than your claimed 500%. | |
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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| said by lvas :prices go down in competition? That is not a given. again use the auto industry example. you can't argue the auto industry is not competitive - because it certainly is and prices didn't go down did they? I bought my first new car (midsize cheve 1977) for 5000. Midsize cheve's cost 20 to 25k now. My math says thats a 500% increase for the same "type" of car - from the same company. Yeah that's 31 years not 20. Also you fail at math. To go from 5000 to 25,000 is a 400% increase not 500%
$5000
100% increase=$10,000
200% increase=$15,000
300% increase=$20,000
400% increase=$25,000
Also a car from 1977 is not the SAME car in 2008.
Also technology usually comes DOWN in price. 30 years ago a 27" CRT TV would be $500 VCR would be $250. Now a 27" CRT non-HD TV can be had for $250 and a VCR for $25. | |
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join:2006-01-05
Davenport, FL
| Still not bad for less than $1 day For the amount I use the internet compared to something like my car or boat, I say $1 day isn't bad at all. I don't know how we expect these companies to survive charging $15/mo. I too, would like to see 100mb lines running to my home, but for now I am satisfied w/3meg. | |
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| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day said by Lets Golf :For the amount I use the internet compared to something like my car or boat, I say $1 day isn't bad at all. I don't know how we expect these companies to survive charging $15/mo. I too, would like to see 100mb lines running to my home, but for now I am satisfied w/3meg. well I know that there are other costs other than bandwdith but for $15 for 768 kbps at most user could download 250 GB of data assuming he he'd his connection to download 24/7. That costs at&t around $15-$20. And no one on a 768 kbps conenction is going to do that. It probably costs at&t probably $3 a month in bandwidth for the average 768 Kbps user. | |
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Davenport, FL | Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day For the raw data, I would agree, but then you start throwing in the cost of techs, CS, modems, then you are probably closer to $10-$11 per month. | |
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join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
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| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day said by Lets Golf :For the raw data, I would agree, but then you start throwing in the cost of techs, CS, modems, then you are probably closer to $10-$11 per month. That is part of the cost of doing business. You can't seperate the cost out like that for the consumer. To the consumer they are paying x amount for the data. | |
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join:2006-01-05
Davenport, FL
| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day Sure you can. With your example of $3 per month for the bandwidth, lets say you charge double that at $6 per month, well now how are you going to pay your employees, health insurance, workman's comp, CPE, R&D, licensing, gas for the vans, etc... You see all of that cost is built into the price of DSL and other services. Of course there is some put on top for profit, but that is the whole reason for being a For-Profit company. | |
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Chicago, IL
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| said by Gilitar :You can't seperate the cost out like that for the consumer. To the consumer they are paying x amount for the data. That makes no sense at all. My electric bill has a separate energy charge and delivery charge. So does my gas bill. Similarly, my cable bill separates the basic charges (cable box, etc.) from the 'data' (programming) fees.
I have yet to see anyone charge "x amount for the data" except maybe cell phone providers and their absurd 1 cent per kilobyte data fees. The cost of providing you that x amount of data far exceeds the cost of the data itself.
Not to defend the recent price increases but on a long term basis I am still paying far less for 6016/768 today then I was paying for 768/128 in 2000, and that is on a dollar-to-dollar basis unadjusted for inflation.
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| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day said by RadioDoc :said by Gilitar :You can't seperate the cost out like that for the consumer. To the consumer they are paying x amount for the data. That makes no sense at all. My electric bill has a separate energy charge and delivery charge. So does my gas bill. Similarly, my cable bill separates the basic charges (cable box, etc.) from the 'data' (programming) fees. I have yet to see anyone charge "x amount for the data" except maybe cell phone providers and their absurd 1 cent per kilobyte data fees. The cost of providing you that x amount of data far exceeds the cost of the data itself. Not to defend the recent price increases but on a long term basis I am still paying far less for 6016/768 today then I was paying for 768/128 in 2000, and that is on a dollar-to-dollar basis unadjusted for inflation. Let me clarify. Your power bill is x amount of money. It doesn't matter to the consumer what the charges consist of. It is the company's responsibility to figure in the cost of doing business. A company does not need to break out all the costs of doing business. | |
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Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day You must not pay power bills. It certainly DOES matter to the consumer what the charges consist of. Especially in this case where you can have wildly varying bills every month.
Same for my telephone bill. If all I got was a piece of paper saying "pay $30" and an envelope to send it in, I would be rather cranky.
Cable companies advertise teaser rates which do not include the base fees you need to already be paying in order to get the teaser offer. If they did not break it out in the 'fine print' they would be guilty of fraudulent advertising. If you look for the information you need it is there.
There is a big difference between a line item for executive washroom toilet paper and a line item for cable equipment fees.
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join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL
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| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day said by RadioDoc :You must not pay power bills. It certainly DOES matter to the consumer what the charges consist of. Especially in this case where you can have wildly varying bills every month. Same for my telephone bill. If all I got was a piece of paper saying "pay $30" and an envelope to send it in, I would be rather cranky. Cable companies advertise teaser rates which do not include the base fees you need to already be paying in order to get the teaser offer. If they did not break it out in the 'fine print' they would be guilty of fraudulent advertising. If you look for the information you need it is there. There is a big difference between a line item for executive washroom toilet paper and a line item for cable equipment fees. I don't think you understand my point. I as a consumer don't care about the cost of doing business. The only thing that matters is the bottom line. I am not speaking of long distance charges or other line item charges. What I am referring to is the items that may make up the line item. Such as the cost of maintaining those long distance networks. I just want to know what you are charging me, not what you pay your workforce or how much it cost you to maintain the service. | |
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Sortofadog
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| Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day That's not really the subject of this story. Nowhere is there a charge for workforce or network maintenance. I understand your point; I don't think you understand the root issue here which is "fees below the line".
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Mobile, AL | Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day If you scroll up you will see that in the discussion the poster talks about the cost of doing business. That is what started me on my tangent. I wasn't really on topic. | |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| said by BF69 :well I know that there are other costs other than bandwdith but for $15 for 768 kbps at most user could download 250 GB of data assuming he he'd his connection to download 24/7. That costs at&t around $15-$20. And no one on a 768 kbps conenction is going to do that. It probably costs at&t probably $3 a month in bandwidth for the average 768 Kbps user. There are only 2 cost groups. Fixed Cost (which is the cost to service the customer and is the same for all customers and independent of their usage [ie: The cost before they use the connection]) and Variable (the cost of the bandwidth that the customer uses). This latter is the $3/ month figure. The only charge that needs to be added into the fixed cost (ie: increase it) based on usage is to do node splits/bandwidth increases when your aggregate bandwidth usage starts to approach your maximum network capacity. | |
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Davenport, FL | Re: Still not bad for less than $1 day I'm not feeling sorry for anyone, I'm just putting the pricing in perspective... | |
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@comcast.net | As long as everyones costs keep rising.. do you really expect them to try and squeeze blood from a turnip? Prices should go up. And it's not a zero sum game with your wallet either. My paychecks higher than it was last year, how about yours? | |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
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join:2002-08-05
Pasadena, TX | Deregulation Doesn't Always Help Consumers Free market my ass.
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cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA | the only thing worse than a monopoly... is a duopoly. this seems like a duopoly to me, the 2 major competitors can essentially charge whatever they please.
if dsl:hyundai::cable:bmw, then what is cable:bmw::FTTH:???? ? ferrari? puddle jumper? | |
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join:2003-10-16
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| Think that's crazy? I pay $54.99 in Fenton, Michigan for 3.0Mb:256k
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| Which war do you want? Price, Speed, or Reliability? When broadband first started over a decade ago you paid $50 for 1Mb service. Prices have stayed flat while speed and reliability have increased.
Although free 7x24 symmetrical 100Mbps is a grand goal for all of us consumers to wish for, I think a price war is not very realistic. | |
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viperpa33s
Why Me?
Premium
join:2002-12-20
Bradenton, FL | Re: Which war do you want? Price, Speed, or Reliability? Your not just paying for just speed but for content also. What does AT&T offer that's so great, nothing. They should stick with providing speed and leave the content to the experts. | |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| Re: Which war do you want? Price, Speed, or Reliability? said by viperpa33s :Your not just paying for just speed but for content also. What does AT&T offer that's so great, nothing. They should stick with providing speed and leave the content to the experts. Is that your business logic?
So Apple should stay away from mp3s and stick to Macs
Verizon / Telco shouldn't go into TV
Cable shouldn't have done triple play
Level3 shouldn't have gone in the CDN business
google should stay away from cell phones
dslreports.com should only talk about DSL
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Keep with the ONE thing you want vs. the areas that are good for the bottom line of the business.
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Why Me?
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Bradenton, FL
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| Re: Which war do you want? Price, Speed, or Reliability? said by telcolackey :said by viperpa33s :Your not just paying for just speed but for content also. What does AT&T offer that's so great, nothing. They should stick with providing speed and leave the content to the experts. Is that your business logic? So Apple should stay away from mp3s and stick to Macs Verizon / Telco shouldn't go into TV Cable shouldn't have done triple play Level3 shouldn't have gone in the CDN business google should stay away from cell phones dslreports.com should only talk about DSL etc... Keep with the ONE thing you want vs. the areas that are good for the bottom line of the business. My logic is there should be balance. You start taking away the balance, then you lead to anticompetitive behavior and lack of choice.
What if Comcast started doing what Verizonwireless does, you could only get content through Comcast? If you wanted to download and pay for music, you have to go through Comcast? You could only use a Comcast approved browser and OS to access the internet?
Granted in the music player business you have choice, on the other hand in a lot of areas you only have 1 ISP provider.
1) So Apple should stay away from mp3s and stick to Macs
Apple is good at making laptops, desktops and Ipods. Should stick with what your good at.
2) Verizon / Telco shouldn't go into TV
Again, they stick with speed and not content.
3) Cable shouldn't have done triple play
Has nothing to do with the subject at hand
4) Level3 shouldn't have gone in the CDN business
Don't have enough info about this to make a statement
5) google should stay away from cell phones
Google is doing a good job working with companies like Verizon to put Google on cellphones. Creating a Google phone, no.
6) dslreports.com should only talk about DSL
Again, has nothing to do with the subject at hand. DslReports offers up content not hardware and content. You don't see a DslReports cellphone? | |
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join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | welcome Welcome to Stagflation, 2008 style...
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
·EarthLink
| Broadband pricing War-No way John Q Public!! These various providers mis--lead government agencies and the consumer by indicating that if they were granted concessions the price to the consumer would go DOWN, the reliability would go UP and the performance would INCREASE. Thus granted these concessions in the form of monopolies, tax relief etc, these same providers have NOT delivered on their promises. They have continued to devise various schemes to add to the bottom line without having to deliver on their commitments. I don't expect the price of quality services to be dirt cheap and the company to go out of business in providing it but I do object to rate increases for services they do not intend to deliver and will not deliver as well as "hidden fees" which are nothing but additional revenues and border on false and misleading advertising. The rampant bait and switch techniques used is criminal but there is no enforcement. The list of questionable business activities keeps getting larger by the day. When a company says you WILL get this for this price, just sign here, then turn around and say "oh we can't really provide you with what we contracted for due to circumstances beyond our control but YOU still have to pay what you said you would pay" I get more than mildly annoyed. The LACK of competition and the LACK of service providers and the seemingly willingness of government bureaucrats to aid and abet this practice makes the choice of going to another provider a moot point for many areas of the U S of A. Many made some choices based on the advertised ability of providers to deliver their product at a defined price and they have failed to deliver their products and services at the price they indicated. Yes there is ALWAYS the choice to NOT choose their products but that is a last resort choice and thus the concessions made to the providers by the public should be rescinded. | |
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join:2004-04-02
O Fallon, MO
| cost of dsl too much sorry to hear there raising prices but there going to dig there own grave! right now u can get charter dsl service 10 meg line for as little as $30.00 with a cable tv package! price wars are always a plus for the consumer and the companies but this dicission is quite pointless and a bad move for everybody! | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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·AT&T Southwest
| I have seen the Future! ... and it is Channel 3 The great Oracle gazes into the Future-Past, and predicts Broadband oligopolies:
Will continue to not provide what users want
Will continue to not provide speeds people want
Will continue to provide bundles that most people don't want
Will continue to restrict and limit users activities
Will continue to raise prices and block competition
Will expand options nobody wants, such as monitoring, capping, filtering, blocking, datamining
Shazam! The Oracle has spoken! Isn't this precognitive ability to see the future A-mazing!
Sit back and watch it all come true....
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smokarz
join:2006-07-24
West Hartford, CT
| Where's Uncle Sam ??? you know, in recent years i am beginning to question our government, and whose interests it serve.
we the consumers continue to pay historically high gas/fuel prices while the producers/sellers continue to earn HISTORICAL profits. quite frankly, i am very disturbed with having the thought that the likes of exxon, mobil, shell, etc. start changing $6 a gallon tomorrow. who's gonna stop them from doing just that?
likewise, the likes of att, comcast, etc. could start doubling their rates for internet services tomorrow, and there's not a thing we can do about it. for most consumers, internet is no longer a choice but a necessity. too much of our livelihood is tied to it (online banking, bill payments, schools, works, prescription drugs, you name it). competition? oh please, $150 for comcast triple play or $149.99 for att bundled package? | |
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join:2006-02-24
Saint Charles, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| lots of people argued with me when I said that letting the telcos out of franchise regulation in order to "increase competition" was a load of crap. I hope the general public remembers things like this the next time corporations want special treatment or a hand-out and tout public-good as the reason. | |
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jimbo48
join:2000-11-17
Hayward, CA
·EarthLink
| Re: lots of people I can't shovel fast enough to keep from being drowned by the constant flow of sludge coming from the various "providers". Comcast as an example lobbied to get exclusive Cable rights in my city by loading their marketing guns with the increased choices, lower costs better service and support promises you know the story. Now that they got that monopoly they proceeded to raise rates 6 times in a single year and did not do a single lick of upgrade work on the lines.Like you, I hope that the public remembers the great De-Regulation Fairy tales that too many swallowed and bring back regulation to this insanity. | |
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Eric Martin
join:2005-06-19
66308 | Need internet alternative New network with last mile answer.
Keep the telecos and cable-opoly boys out. | |
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Broadband Price War Isn't Coming
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