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Manchester, MD | yay? Have they determined what "rural" is? 2 houses per mile? 10 per mile? What are they going by? ANyone know? | |
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Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | Re: yay? said by Duramax08:also theres like 45 houses on a mile road here in the country. 45 houses a mile is suburbia, 10 houses a mile is rural. Sounds like the cable company doesn't care, and the city won't care to put in water/sewer/gas without getting kickbacks from a developer. | |
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San Antonio, TX | Re: yay? we get city water, thats about it.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: yay? Who;s the telephone company? Maybe said phone company could sell you to GVTC. They're laying fiber everywhere...mmm 20/3 internet for $70/month... | |
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San Antonio, TX | Re: yay? att..... said dsl was available but its like 2 miles away. already called gvtc and they said they were not coming here anytime soon but ive heard they started to come closer.
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: yay? Sorry to hear that. Rock Solid Internet isn't up your way is it? | |
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San Antonio, TX | Re: yay? i dont believe so....
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| me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
1 edit | Re: The incumbent ISP's will put a stick in the RUS Spokes. I agree the big ISPs will not like this.
I still hope some GOOD(can handle at least one VoIP call and one youtube video at the same time, and no ISP should get money if it will not work with VoIP IMHO) WISPs will get started A stable 512k/256k going to more rural areas would help in areas where it is sat(WB/huges) or dial-up, it may not be blazing fast 50m but it IS enough for one youtube video and one VoIP call. Farmer Bob(a good friend of my grand parents, my grand parents[my moms' parents] are both farmers kids.) would be able to check what food is selling for but they already have a WISP there so they r taken care of. but is show one way it can help.
BTW checking food prices is like you see what one bushel of corn is going for, one hour it may be $x per bushel the next it could be $d and that way the can get the best price. | |
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| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Re: The incumbent ISP's will put a stick in the RUS Spokes. I'd say the minimum broadband speed should be 768/384. Doable on any modern equipment, and fast enough to do a decent amount of stuff online. If there's wireline phone going to an area, the telephone company should provide 3/768 DSL (easy to do even on a few mile loop) or give up the access line to a co-op who will... | |
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join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: The incumbent ISP's will put a stick in the RUS Spokes. A lot of telcos see rural areas as not profitable enough. Co-ops may help, that is a good idea. | |
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Re: America makes me sad I'm Hey Mod'ing you for blatant spamming because I know you own pharmaceutical stock in all those companies.  | |
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join:2003-04-10
Ocean Springs, MS
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| Broadband stimulas Fund As a WISP, I get really frustated that the ILEC's and Cable companies that go after this money. They have had countless grant moneies already and we have what we have today. They do not care about going into rural america, because they see no profit in it.
I say, let the companies that already supply broadband into rural america get the funds. At least they will spend the money a lot better than the above, including myself. They have had many years and billions of our dollars already and they still cannot get it done, WTF...over.
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| me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Broadband stimulas Fund Yeah, didn't we cablecos money to expand in rural areas b4? Why would I want the Gov to give my money to some1 who will just more or less say "skrew you."? I would rather a lot of the rural stimulus money go to WISPs, I would feel more comfortable if the owner of the WISP I use got the money, at least he would use it to get to more areas though it already serves most of the KC MO area and at least some on the KCK side.
Anyway WISPs FTW! | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Agreed. Cable rollout to rural areas isn't cost effective anyway if you want a system that's actually usable for broadband etc. If it costs $4.50 per foot to roll cable out to my place, which could probably get DSL if the phone company wasn't jacked up, you're looking at a communications medium that's inefficient to the point of idiocy in rural markets. Aside from being the wrong way to roll out new service...fiber has orders of magnitude more capacity than coax.
Now for the harshness: personally I don't think companies deploying 802.11 2.4 GHz based service should get stimulus checks. If you're going to get government money, spend it on high-performance equipment. Canopy at least, WiMAX preferably (3.65 GHz FTW). 802.11 just can't deliver next-gen speeds and reliability over long links... | |
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| | verizon you can bet verizon wont get a dime of this cause of them dropping customers and the fact that some people aren't profitable enough for them. | |
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| | maybe I'll be able to get broadband living 30 mi west of Baltimore, 20 north of DC, and I still only have 3 options: dial-up, cellular, or satellite. I'd almost kill just for DSL...
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| chadd02
join:2008-11-18
Manchester, MD | Re: maybe I'll be able to get broadband I'm 5.5 miles from the cable hookup and 6 miles from DSL in MD. If I got 1 mile into PA my neighbor has DSL but I can't get it. awesome. | |
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| | | | Re: maybe I'll be able to get broadband I'm four miles away from DSL, seven from cable. We live just outside a REALLY small town, but even they get 6.0 Mbps DSL. We use HughesNet and it gets the job done for web browsing. But for serious downloading, forget about it. The FAP (200 MB a day with 2-7 A.M. free time) is terrible and the ping times are WAY worse than DSL. I can understand the signal having to travel thousands of miles, but the FAP just gets on my nerve. If the broadband stimulus money can go to getting FAP-free satellite or 1.0 Mbps DSL, I'd take it! | |
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| | | | | Re: maybe I'll be able to get broadband I can throw a baseball and hit where the cable line ends on my street, right at the golf course. My house and the 17 around me, also in baseball range, don't sit on the golf course. So I guess we aren't profitable. But it doesn't stop Charter from sending us weekly mailings beseeching us to sign right up. Once a year I do, after asking several times if I really can get it now. After being told yes, multiple times, I am given an install date. It comes and the goes, with no Charter. I call and I am told, "Oh, the cable line stops a baseball throw away" (so to speak). And the cycle goes on. | |
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The incumbent ISP's will put a stick in the RUS Spokes.
As soon as the incumbent ISP's smell competition they will attack the RUS program like a school of piranhas. The incumbents need to be put on a short leash.
