 
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA | Not a good deal That's expensive and there is no way they can justify that. | |
|  | 
DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | Re: Not a good deal said by article :
Comcast has more than 200,000 VoIP customers
I beg to differ
--
:: my trivial ramblings :: | |
| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Mediacom, for the record, isn't all cheery either you know. Their bundled price requires "family" cable (a term that should be looked at anyway) to get the bundle price. At least comcast, on THIS one, only requires a video service.
Comcast offers voip on three price ranges:
$54: unbundled
$45: with cable or HSI
$39: with both cable and HSI
Many customers already have two services.
Nothing personal, but I've used MC phone at several locations, and I wasn't impressed one bit. I have vonage and it sound better.
My point about this post is that it's about what you are getting for that money. Yes, indie sells voip service less expensive than even does MC-CC, Comcast and TWC are up there in their price. But as the story shows, cable voip service is still dominating the market. Wonder why?
It still boils down to a few things:
- Trust in reliability. If something goes wrong, with a provider based voip, you can call for repair and they fix it. Indie, you fix it yourself. It may be for some, but not for all.
- value for the money. Is the quality there to justify the price?
- Ongoing customer. People are more likely to buy from a provider they alreayd do business with. Yes, there are people here that live here to bitch, moan, and complain about their cable service (same with phone) but you know, in the end, it's a VERY SMALL minority that does. Many people are happy with their services and if not happy, they are at least satisfied. Not everyone has issues with their cable or phone providers.
If you want the real answers, you need to look out side your own worlds to see why cable can sell their voip at the prices they are and survive.
There's also one other point. Many people for years, like myself, are used to $300.00 per month telephone bills with all the long distance calling that gets made. $39.99 or even $54.99 IS A DEAL compared to that price point. Sadly too, for Vonage, their price points can actually hurt them in areas where they don't realize. Some people look at phone service for $24.99 and wonder what the catch is... or the old "it's too cheap, there's got to be something wrong with this - no one can sell service that inexpensive and provide something good"... and quite honestly, that group is correct. It's not the same and it's not as good as traditional phone and it has a long way to becoming that. Since indie voip is only as good as the broadband connection it runs on, there is no way they can claim quality on their service.
It was said best in another post right around this one...
with over 51% of the market and the growth they are seeing (200,000 since launch) ... yes, they can justify it.. and are. | |
| | | 
G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| Re: Not a good deal #1: "People are more likely to buy from a provider they alreayd do business with."
#2: "Many people are happy with their services and if not happy, they are at least satisfied."
#3: "see why cable can sell their voip at the prices they are and survive."
#4: "used to $300.00 per month telephone bills with all the long distance calling that gets made. $39.99 or even $54.99 IS A DEAL compared to that price point."
#5: "Since indie voip is only as good as the broadband connection it runs on, there is no way they can claim quality on their service."
#6: "with over 51% of the market and the growth they are seeing"
In response:
#1: I only have 1 cable provider, so I have to do business with them if I want certain services (broadband)
#2: See #1. Even if I'm unhappy, see #1
#3: Because I have to go through my cable provider for IP Access. (too far for DSL)
#4: Your telephone company was a monopoly too. See #1, replace cable with telco provider.
#5: See #1. If comcast wants Vonage to suck, the will make it suck. If comcast looses too many people to Vonage, vonage will begin to suck.
#6: See #1.
So, the REASON comcast can charge that much, and get away.. drum roll please... MONOPOLY ! And it will only get worse as comcast actively degrades everyone else to ensure their dominance.
Solution: Net Neutrality.
--
Flabby? pastey-skinned? riddled with phlebitis? Then you've got a good Republican body! So compare your lives to mine, and then kill yourself. | |
| | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Not a good deal Pooh... I am comparing the CHOICE against the current option. For many, still, with the exception of indie voip, there is pots services.
SOME parts of the country have good reliable phone service. Ask many of the US West / Qwest customers about their nightmares. Yes, this company is notorious for horrible service.
In california, however, Pacific Bell was an incredible and reliable service for landline service. Their prices, however, were horrible.
My post, in context, is related to the options available to them at the time. | |
| | | | 
MacLeech
The one and only
Premium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
| how does net neutrality fix the monopoly?
I thought encouraging competition fixed monopolies... in other words reducing regulations and allowing corporations to profit from their provided products so they will expand the markets they serve in hopes of making more profits.
--
For official Adelphia support, contact Adelphia. I'm just here for advice... | |
| | |
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA
 ·Mediacom
| I know that. I know that some of the smaller companies are just crap. But that's not my point
Here we go
Comcast
$54: unbundled
$45: with cable or HSI
$39: with both cable and HSI
Mediacom
$49.99 by itself
$39.99 with Cable TV OR HSI
$29.99 with Cable TV AND HSI
All of the cable companies have more expensive service but far more reliable, however there is absolutely NO reason why Comcast should charge more than other cable companies.
I'd like to see their explanation why is their VoIP service $10 more. | |
| | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
1 edit | Re: Not a good deal Anon,
for the record, the MCCC phone that I have used was in Ames and in Des Moines.
But moving on, if you look at your voip prices vs the others, it's mediacom that is underselling as compared to the other two giants. TWC and CC is $39.99 bundled.
However, on the FLIP side of things...  you have to also compare what Medicacom is selling their other products for.
In turn, why is medicom selling their high def service for $9.95 on top of the equipment rental AND the "digital gateway" fee. With Comcast, you rent a box for $5.00 and get the services within the tier you are already in.
Why does mediacom rend a box for additional outlets for $6.95 and THEN make you pay a $4.00 "gateway fee" on top of it?
Truth be known, medicom is not cheaper on it's service when it comes to phone. The way I see it, MC can afford to sell their phone service cheaper at a bundled price because their cable is more expensive. The unbundled price is only $5 different at that price point.
In the end, the bundled prices for each service doesn't matter because you MUST bundle to get that price. What matters most to the MSO is what the total amount due on your bill at the end of the month says.
MC realises that their triple play price will attract more people since it's $29.99 a month. What people DON'T see is that to get that bundled price of $29.99 you have to purchase many other expensive services to get it.
I am not bashing MC, well I am not happy about their video offerings in IA especially, I am mostly talking about why MC APPEARS to be a "better deal" over the others. | |
| | | | |
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA | Re: Not a good deal Well I guess other cable companies are charging $40 bundled. That's way too expensive. In fact I was hoping that Mediacom would match Vonage. | |
| | | | | | 
Big V
@68.87.x.x
| Re: Not a good deal Think about this...
Vonage (and any other low cost service providers) does not provide any kind of service to your home, they just have a data center which translates your IP signal then routes it onto the phone switch. They could care less about your quality across the publicly switched internet (once you leave your ISPs network).
In this sense, the service that Mediacom and Comcast are providing is superior (assuming that it is working with the same level or reliability) as they can actually control the amount of lost packets and routing of your IP packets to guarantee QoS (quality of service).
This to me is worth the extra money as I tried Vonage and for some reason my call quality was extremely poor. After weeks of troubleshooting, I determined that it had to be the public internet component of my connection to their data center. I now use the cable company's service and the call quality is 100% better...for $15/month more.
As for the cable company de-prioritizing packets for these other phone providers, my friends at the cable company tell me that they have enough problems dealing with their own internal routing to keep it up to date and could not possibly manage to de-prioritize packets for specific services. Can you imagine the amount of administration it would take to maintain that amongst their other routing rules? Not realistic...especially since it would leave an obvious trail for anti-competitive law suits. This argument is so ridiculous I cannot believe that people even bring it up. | |
| | | | | | 
rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL | Cable VOIP to the home is Regulated Vonage isn't, yet. A PSC can't really touch Vonage except maybe on 911 service. However, if a Comcast customer complains, they can fine them for providing lousy service with lots of outages. Cable VOIP ISN'T Net based either. | |
| | | 
Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
| "Some people look at phone service for $24.99 and wonder what the catch is... or the old "it's too cheap, there's got to be something wrong with this - no one can sell service that inexpensive and provide something good"... and quite honestly, that group is correct."
This is not entirely true either, since you can still get a basic no frills DEPENDABLE POTS line from at&t for $15. It's the taxes and fees that jack the proce up, but, even then, my basic line is about $32 a month, add $13 for DSL and it's STILL less than Comcast BEFORE the taxes/fees, let alone HSI.
Fact is, packages are for the clueless and lazy and that's how they can charge so much and get away with it, plain and simple. | |
| | | | 
Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: Ehhh... said by Fatal Vector  :"Some people look at phone service for $24.99 and wonder what the catch is... or the old "it's too cheap, there's got to be something wrong with this - no one can sell service that inexpensive and provide something good"... and quite honestly, that group is correct." This is not entirely true either, since you can still get a basic no frills DEPENDABLE POTS line from at&t for $15. It's the taxes and fees that jack the proce up, but, even then, my basic line is about $32 a month, add $13 for DSL and it's STILL less than Comcast BEFORE the taxes/fees, let alone HSI. Fact is, packages are for the clueless and lazy and that's how they can charge so much and get away with it, plain and simple. Not everyone can get AT&T though. Hell, if Sprint did this, I would jump on it. | |
| | | | |
Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | Re: Ehhh... True...for the moment. But Ma Bell is putting herself back together now and, soon, very soon, your wish may come true. Of course it will soon be true for most of the country once they swallow Bellsouth. | |
| | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| FV,
I hate to tell you this, but your thinking is old thinking and you aren't getting the point of my post either.
POTS IS dependable.. that's the point. However, for the low cost dial tone line, local only, you are getting just that.. and no ld. People with measured service and use long distance will look at Vonage at $24.99 and say "what's the catch"... what part of that don't you understand?
Try this experoment... take two cars and place them in a parkinglot near each other with a sign in one that says "free, take me" and the other one you put a sign in the window for about $3000 less than retail" and I guarantee you more people will look at the car with a price on it. More people, and this is proven, are skepticle of something that is given away for free. Reduced price is the same thing.
All you can chew phone service for $24.95 is going to get a loony toons triple look at the service.
Also, packages are NOT for the clueless and lazy.. that's just plain absurd! Packaged service, if you do the simple match, are cheaper than when you purchase the service ala cart. For SOME people, the package may be more than they need, but don't discount people as stupid. I've been on the other end of a call center listening to customers who will say no to a package because they know it's more than they need. Consumers aren't stupid. Again.. what part of that don't you get?
It's not plain and simple.. sorry. | |
| | 
TheSaint
join:2002-01-25
Hanover Park, IL
clubs: | No say "no" to mal-wart. Thank you. | |
| bamabrad
join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | LOOKOUT! REAL competition is coming to town! | |
| 
Carl
Premium
join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA
·Charter Pipeline
| Oh my Not all Wal-Mart Electronics employees are bad, but the ones in my local store are a complete nightmare. Great, this is something else for them to misinform the technophobic customer on. Like the time they told a friend of mine that a 1GB iPod could hold 10,000 songs.
Again, not all WM employees are bad. Some are quite good.
--
*ring* "This .sig has been disconnected. Please try your call again later." | |
| | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Oh my ... and what does Wal-Mart employees and iPods have to do with the topic at hand? I kinda failed to make a connection.
Wal Mart employees don't have to do much other than scan the box for the Motorola SB 5120 modem. Notice the modem used? It's really HSI service. This is for existing customers anyway. If you wanted voip, which is a 'stoopid' move, you're going to be swapped for an Arris modem anyway.
This is going to be no different than the way it is in Best Buy or Circuit City. If you want any other services, you will most likely be offered an 800 number to comcast to complete any other sale you may want.
This deal is no different than they way people use eBay by listing a product or two so they can place a link on their auction back to their own website where they REALLY want people to go.
The one thing I can say good about this offer is that you can buy the SB5120 for an "everyday low price" of $59.97.. Gotta love those Wal-Mart Pricing schemes. | |
| | |
Carl
Premium
join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Oh my What about the people that come in wondering about HSI? Not everyone knows EVERYTHING about computers and broadband. What happens if an associate sells someone HSI with the promise that "Oh, yes, you can like download a song in a second!" (It's happened.)
And the reference to employees was to point out how many of them tend to misinform the consumer, and the iPod reference was simply to show that they do indeed misinform.
--
*ring* "This .sig has been disconnected. Please try your call again later." | |
| | | |
Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: Oh my said by Carl :What about the people that come in wondering about HSI? Not everyone knows EVERYTHING about computers and broadband. What happens if an associate sells someone HSI with the promise that "Oh, yes, you can like download a song in a second!" (It's happened.) And the reference to employees was to point out how many of them tend to misinform the consumer, and the iPod reference was simply to show that they do indeed misinform. Well, then Walmart would not be the only culprit in this. Circuit City, Best Buy, Comp USA, they ALL have people who don't know WTF they are talking about. Can't just let Walmart have that honor. | |
| | | | |
Carl
Premium
join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA | Re: Oh my Sorry, I'm used to WM being the only player in town, all the other stores are ~1-2 hours away.
--
*ring* "This .sig has been disconnected. Please try your call again later." | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | |
Carl
Premium
join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Oh my said by Cheese :said by Carl :Sorry, I'm used to WM being the only player in town, all the other stores are ~1-2 hours away. Damn, that sucks  You don't get to experience the other "stores".  Nope, only once in a great while do I. Last time I was in Best Buy there was some guy at the front yelling and screaming about HDTV, and in the back some woman that looked like she was drunk showing some people around. LOL
--
*ring* "This .sig has been disconnected. Please try your call again later." | |
| | | | | 
dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | OMG! Tell me about it!!! BestBuy people are clueless here!
I go in and just point to what I want and say "One Please".
Pay for it.
Leave.
--
Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
| | | | | |
Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: Oh my said by dadkins :OMG! Tell me about it!!! BestBuy people are clueless here! I go in and just point to what I want and say "One Please". Pay for it. Leave. LOL! So true! | |
| | | | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Man.. that makes two of us. That's why I like their return policy... don't like it.. bring it back. Half the people at best buy don't know a thing they are talking about.
When I go into my best buy and want help, the manager from the home apliance department (washer and dryers) comes over and helps me ... he seems to be the only one in the store with a clue. | |
| | | | | | 
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by dadkins :OMG! Tell me about it!!! BestBuy people are clueless here! I go in and just point to what I want and say "One Please". Pay for it. Leave. The one thing i like about walmart is that the employees arent continuously trying to get you to buy a extended warranty on anything you buy. i hate fry's, circuit city and best buy for this very fact.
--
You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
| | | | | | | 
pcdebb
RIP dadkins
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
clubs:
| Re: Oh my said by dvd536 :said by dadkins :OMG! Tell me about it!!! BestBuy people are clueless here! I go in and just point to what I want and say "One Please". Pay for it. Leave. The one thing i like about walmart is that the employees arent continuously trying to get you to buy a extended warranty on anything you buy. i hate fry's, circuit city and best buy for this very fact. stay tuned, we have extended warranties to sell now, but most dont know about it yet. Personally this could be a nitemare. We actually sell DirectTV in the store however, the people we have dont have a clue. I can say this cause I work there, and I had the honor of answering all questions related anything remotely to computers, only cause nobody knew a thing. If the associates in the department are trained well, you then have a 50-50 chance. I'd like to see how this turns out.
--
babbling | How's the weather? | |
| | | | | | | | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Oh my said by pcdebb :stay tuned, we have extended warranties to sell now, but most dont know about it yet. Personally this could be a nitemare. We actually sell DirectTV in the store however, the people we have dont have a clue. I can say this cause I work there, and I had the honor of answering all questions related anything remotely to computers, only cause nobody knew a thing. If the associates in the department are trained well, you then have a 50-50 chance. I'd like to see how this turns out. Problem is training costs time and money which a retail operation doesn't want to spend.
One issues I see is that the Walmart employees are expected to be "promoters" of cable internet but know next to nothing about it. Basically, "Here is a box and a phone number, hook it up yourself." For many readers of this site, this would be no problem. HOWEVER, for the average Joe Six Pack and Holly Homemaker, this would bring up some of the most dreaded words parents hear during Christmas; Some Assembly Required." 
When I worked at CompUSA, I was the go to person for networking even though that was not my area. Hardly anyone else knew anything about it so I would be dragged out from the "Upgrade Center" and had to explain the various things we sold so that 2 computers could actually talk to one another and hit the internet at the same time.
I feel sorry for the employees that will take the brunt of the venting from angry consumers just because some manager wanted to save a few man hours of training. | |
| | | | | | | | |
pcdebb
RIP dadkins
Premium
join:2000-12-03
Tampa, FL
clubs:
| Re: Oh my well actually they'd make us that a CBL (computer based learning) module on it, so the manager can stay in their hidden area of the store and not be bothered. even if the module was taken, doesnt mean something will be learned. like i said earlier, it'd be a 50-50 crap shoot on the level of help you'd get.
--
babbling | How's the weather? | |
| | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Carl,
You are not going to get tech on customer assistance with the product. What you are going to get is shelf space for their equipment and a 1-800 number to call for assistance.
You are not going to go in and be able to ask these people "how to I hook this up" or "is there a better way to connect this service"... This deal is nothing more than a place to place the physical product, an ad display, and an alternative place to pick up your equipment at a cheaper price than other places.
Think of it this way.. the last time you went to wall mart and purchased a TV from them... how much help did the associate give you other than manybe finding the box for you? That's what you are going to get with Comcast service. You MIGHT, however, see the video product running on a television so you can play with the service as well.
Nothing more.. nothing less. | |
| | | | |
Carl
Premium
join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Oh my OH, ok fiberguy, I understand now. I thought there would be actual people answering questions, etc. sort of like their "Connection Center" thing where they sell cell phones.
--
*ring* "This .sig has been disconnected. Please try your call again later." | |
| | | | |
Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| said by fiberguy :Carl, You are not going to get tech on customer assistance with the product. What you are going to get is shelf space for their equipment and a 1-800 number to call for assistance. You are not going to go in and be able to ask these people "how to I hook this up" or "is there a better way to connect this service"... This deal is nothing more than a place to place the physical product, an ad display, and an alternative place to pick up your equipment at a cheaper price than other places. Think of it this way.. the last time you went to wall mart and purchased a TV from them... how much help did the associate give you other than manybe finding the box for you? That's what you are going to get with Comcast service. You MIGHT, however, see the video product running on a television so you can play with the service as well. Nothing more.. nothing less. Yep, they usually sell you the box with the items inside, and typically on the box, there is a number to call to setup. | |
| | | | | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Oh my Bingo!
Here's how this will more than likely play out:
- No cable at all? Here's our product. Play with it... you like our service? Call us and here's our special number for Wal Mart Customer.
- Existing cutomer? No HSI? You can get hooked up today.. simply buy this box, take it home, and most likely you will be able to hook yourself up so long as there are no filters on your line, your jacks are in the right place.. and you have half a cell working in your head.. etc.
- Existing customer? With or without HSI? Want our phone? Call this number. There will be no way to get their phone at the store. CDV requires a tech install. | |
| | | | | | |
Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: Oh my said by fiberguy :Bingo! Here's how this will more than likely play out: - No cable at all? Here's our product. Play with it... you like our service? Call us and here's our special number for Wal Mart Customer. - Existing cutomer? No HSI? You can get hooked up today.. simply buy this box, take it home, and most likely you will be able to hook yourself up so long as there are no filters on your line, your jacks are in the right place.. and you have half a cell working in your head.. etc. - Existing customer? With or without HSI? Want our phone? Call this number. There will be no way to get their phone at the store. CDV requires a tech install. Exactly. | |
| 
KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
·Comcast
| Win-Win It looks like a win-win deal for both Walmart and Comcast.
Walmart will sell a popular brand name in broadband and Comcast will most likely gain a lot of new customers.
It's a good thing | |
| | Deathsadvoca
join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs: | Re: Win-Win More like a win-win-lose deal. The customers are the ones who lose because of comcast outrageous VOIP prices ($50 for stand alone service??????) and walmarts notoriously bad service. | |
| | | fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: Win-Win Please tell me/us how it's an outrageous price for telephone service when many people across the nation are used to phone bills over the $100.00 range?
When making comments like this, you really should look at the whole picture and not just your world.
You're obviously uninformed too. The price for 'unbundled' phone service is $54.00, not $50.00.
There IS one thing for certain... YOU don't have to buy it, so for YOU it's a win win situation! For others that have been paying more, have been screwed by their local phone companies, the $54.00 unbundled, to $39.99 tripple play price is a win win for them.
Ask many verizon people that have the freedom unlimited plans if they are happy with their $64.00 per month phone service and see what they say?
I am not saying that cable phone (the voip version that is) is the best thing in the world.. but when compared to choices...? It's a better deal than many land line phones on prices, and has better quaility and overall value than many indie voips do when comparing ALL the service points together. (Remember, when you talk about over all value and service, you ahve to look at who is going to fix it.. who is going to install it, and other points... FOR THE AVERAGE CUSTOMER - Again, think OUTSIDE your/and this world!) | |
| | | | Deathsadvoca
join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI
clubs:
1 edit | Re: Win-Win maybe because almost every voip phone service beats that price for unlimited local and long distance. Even other cable providers beat that pricing for voip. Also my $50 statement was an estimate, i knew that the price wasn't exactly $50.
Also where are you getting the $100 for local phone service number from? I have Unlimited local and long distance with DSL and its around $80. | |
| | | | | thebulldan
join:2005-06-13
Bridgeport, PA | Re: Win-Win But I could do the same w/ VZ, but instead would rather just pay the extra $40 for my HDTV, HBO, and DVR (plus an extra digital box for the bedroom).
Guaranteed rate for a year. By that time who knows where things will be. | |
| RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Lookie there BMWs at Wal*Mart. Whaddya know. Them folks in Springdale are real smart, yup.
--
Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
| | djeremy
join:2004-07-12
San Francisco, CA | Re: Lookie there hahahahah! | |
| | 
ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
2 edits | said by RadioDoc :BMWs at Wal*Mart. Whaddya know. Them folks in Springdale are real smart, yup. Anyway, maybe WalMart was going to sell DSL modems but backed out of the deal when they realized the volume of modem returns they would have to handle. Can you imagine all the customers that would take a DSL modem home, hook it up and not get sync becausde they're 100 feet too far from the CO or their line had a load coil, bridge tap or a family of rats living in a cross box?
Comcast wins another one because cable modems are Plug-n-Surf.
--
Meet Bill and Karolyn at www.theslowskys.com | |
| | | RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Lookie there Can't be more than the 100% return rate that they're going to have around here with Comcast's inability to get their system to work more than 1 minute out of 100.
But you don't care. You're just another Comcast astroturfer.
--
Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
| | | |
KeepOnRockin
Music Lover Forever
Premium
join:2002-11-08
Beaverton, OR
·Comcast
1 edit | Re: Lookie there said by RadioDoc :Can't be more than the 100% return rate that they're going to have around here with Comcast's inability to get their system to work more than 1 minute out of 100. But you don't care. You're just another Comcast astroturfer. Granted, every Comcast market segment seems to be different in terms of service quality.
My Comcast area provides me with 100 out of 100 minutes of broadband internet service stability that's "solid as a rock" at least 99% of the time (with the only very rare outage). It's not a guarantee that I signed a contract for nor is this uptime stated in writing, but that's the kind of service I happen to get.
Of course I cannot speak for every Comcast area in the US or as to the quality of service, but I feel Comcast and Walmart will be sucessful in this venture. | |
| | cybercrimes
join:2003-12-24
Phoenixville, PA | more money they charge more if you dont have there cable service | |
| |
See 14 replies to this post | |
Obliteration
Premium
join:2005-09-18
Somewhere | The price the charge for the service isn't justified... Vonage for $25 unlimited here sounds BETTER than POTS with SBC. Comcast doesn't even offer phone service or VOIP here to begin with.
I doubt their service will be of such quality to justify the price they want to charge for it. | |
| |
See 7 replies to this post | |
JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| OMG No............ There is no God! Say it ain't so. I saw this press release and thought about sending to dslreports but thought why give thousands of readers a headache on Monday. This probably gave the hate Walmart and hate Comcast crowd a stroke this morning. How can they let the biggest,baddest,non-union retailer and the worst,most expensive cable outfit become partners. I'm hoping tomorrow Haliburton and Exxon announce a merger and President Bush goes on tv and announces that by executive order he is opening up ANWR to drilling.  | |
| |
Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
2 edits | Re: OMG No............ I hate to burst your bubble, but being non union is, in many cases, a good thing. No one forces anyone to work at wal mart and so far NONE of the union organizing efforts have succeeded. I wonder why?
Could it be that people are now seeing the unions reap the loss of jobs, wages and benefits they sowed in previous years when they allways went for the jugular and demanded more pay and benefits? Only to discover now, to their horror, that the companies simply cannot go on that way? GM and Delphi come to mind, among others.
Oh, and as a side note: Wasn't/isn't GM the largest corporation in the world? Even if not, their current dilemma is a graphic illustration that NO CORPORATION, no matter how large, is invincable. If you aren't nimble and GIVE YOUR CUSTOMERS WHAT THEY WANT, you WILL fall and those that are more nimble will step over your prone corporate carcass. Take note Ma Bell, comcast, etc.
Look at GM's "Job bank", where laid off workers get their full pay for doing NOTHING. Some have been on this for DECADES. Now, the gravy train is coming to an end.
The unions are products of their times and have not adapted to the current times where the company cant just hire pinkertons and whip ass, or, force workers to work overtime, or in bad conditions. There are now laws that prevent that kind of thing, mostly a result of the unions and strikes. Ironically, the unions have, in the end, become victims of their own successes and their unthinking stupidity and greed.
They deserve what they are getting, as do their members for not keeping them under control and accepting the blind greed. | |
| | | JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Re: OMG No............ said by Fatal Vector :I hate to burst your bubble, but being non union is, in many cases, a good thing. No one forces anyone to work at wal mart and so far NONE of the union organizing efforts have succeeded. I wonder why? My sarcasm didn't come across very well, I take it? I'll stick to knock,knock jokes. | |
| dick white
Premium
join:2000-03-24
Annandale, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| ok, so now I've bought one... Saw one on the endcap while strolling my favorite Wally's at lunch. I take it home and plug it into my living room cable outlet. Why doesn't it work? Oh, Cox has the TV franchise in my town (Wally's is in the next town over...) WTF? I've been defrauded!!! I'm gonna sue!!!
This is what happens when somebody tries to sell broadband as a consumer commodity.
dw | |
| |
Cheese
Premium
join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:
| Re: ok, so now I've bought one... said by dick white :Saw one on the endcap while strolling my favorite Wally's at lunch. I take it home and plug it into my living room cable outlet. Why doesn't it work? Oh, Cox has the TV franchise in my town (Wally's is in the next town over...) WTF? I've been defrauded!!! I'm gonna sue!!! This is what happens when somebody tries to sell broadband as a consumer commodity. dw And there will be disclaimers saying that service may not be available in "your area". | |
| | 
roamer1
sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
clubs:
1 edit | said by dick white :Cox has the TV franchise in my town :D
The Best Buys around here tend to have install kits for both Comcast and Charter (and in a few cases, such as Alpharetta, Adelphia too) thanks to the islands of Charter/Adelphia around Atlanta.
Modems themselves are not provider-specific...they'll work on any old cable company as long as the cableco is using DOCSIS, and pretty much all are these days.
-SC
--
"it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend | |
| jlsjrf29
join:2002-05-12
San Jose, CA
| whacked price levels if you ask me I will stick with vonage. Comcast isnt going to nag any levels worth paying attention to with prices at this level. I have had my vonage now for 2 years and dont have any plans on leaving any time soon.
Keep trying comcast
--
Did you say guru ??? | |
| mooty
join:2001-01-28
Riverdale, GA
| Welcome to Walmart - You friendly neighborhood PC store I remember when all the stuff for your PC could be bought from Walmart, from the PC section which consisted of barely one small shelf. Some monitors, some PC systems (yeah, right), some USB cables, ethernet cables, keyboards and mice.
Over the years, that retail shelf with all the PC gear on it has gotten quite sophisticated and jazzy. HDDs and flash drives, and even laptop PCs.
Now, they even tote color laser printers for sale and HSI thru Comcast, even though it seems they've been selling cable modems for a while too.
The best and worst of both worlds: Where else can you go at almost anytime of the day for your PC and broadband needs and still find time to beat your kids while tiredly waiting in line.
--
Alright, BIG MAN! So You Want To Make the BIG BUCK$, Eh??!!. . . . . . Do You Know How To Handle a Machine-gun? | |
| figmund
join:2000-11-01
Sammamish, WA
| Wal-Mart Sells BMW's? I think it's funny that Comcast is all happy when it strikes a deal with Wal-Mart, the store known for the lowest prices on the planet. I thought Comcast was the BMW of ISP's, not the Hyundai. Does that mean we're about to get rock-bottom pricing for that BMW service? | |
| |
Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26 | Ahem It just shows you what corporate pimps they all are, who, just like the street pimp, will say and do anything to get your money, even if it means dealing with the devil himself. | |
| Cyber2lz
join:2001-11-15
Odessa, FL
| maybe it's just me But, I don't see Comcrap getting a big sales lift from this.
In fact, I would be willing to wager that this is going to cause bigger problems that any sales boost that it gives.
Granted I haven't been to a Wally World in years, it is my perception that the shoppers there are interested in one thing and that is price. I'm not sure that a VoIP is going to be a big draw for Wally's.
Who knows, I could be wrong!
--
The Light Pipe is the Right Pipe !!! | |
| | 
Tweak
Premium
join:2002-06-08
Oklahoma City, OK
·Cox HSI
3 edits | Re: maybe it's just me I think its just you. Do you realize the retail presence this gives Comcast? You can't compare on price and quality a "Broadband" phone company, to the voice offering of competitive local exchange carrier, such as Comcast. Just curious how much do you pay for your phone line dsl and packet 8 all total and your tv ? | |
| 
Jon Geb
Wal-Mart Sucks
join:2001-01-09
Howell, MI | Walmart? Bye bye Comcast I boycott all companies who have any kind of intimate partnership with Walmart. That means Lowes, H&R block and McDonalds will have to move over to allow Comcast onto that list. | |
| 
rob_in_chatt
Premium
join:2004-09-17
Chattanooga, TN
·Comcast
4 edits | wally world it does not matter to me, if i do not want it, i wont buy it. the reasoning behind all this is that alot of people shop at walmart, and alot of them probably have cable tv, then some of them have cable internet,and some of them will say hey o neat internet phone. you can bet it was a tactical and well planned launch and there has got to be some financial deals with walmart to see it. i am uncertain on the exact items in this "self install kit" but i do know that the last time i was at wally world, they had an ubundance of the motorola sb5100 modems, and if i am not mistaken they were 69 bucks. they also have the linksys one too and it is about the same price but with activation with new service i think, linksys refunds the price via a rebate. so the 5120 (i have one) is your standard broadband modem CAT5 and USB ready so i find it hard to believe that the package is anything other than a modem. you then have to buy the router for the viop to work too. 59 bucks as a self start kit? right.
EDIT: i re-read the yahoo news link and all it says it "purchase the self install kit and get on the internet in the same day". it says nothing about using the phone service. so they have dropped the price of the modem, 10 bucks and are throwing in a free ethernet card ( i assume) and a patch cable. that leaves you to get your pwn router and i imagine those are around 75 dollars. | |
| | | |
|
|
Buy Broadband At Walmart
·
Wal-Mart a "PREMIUM" retailer??