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C Spire to Deploy 1 Gbps Residential Fiber
by Karl Bode 12:34PM Tuesday Sep 24 2013 Tipped by brandon See Profile
C Spire Wireless today announced that the company is getting into the 1 Gbps residential fiber game. C Spire is clearly following the Google Fiber model by encouraging communities to compete for attention (in the process generating huge nationwide PR), announcing that they'll offer the fiber service to any community in its Southern service region "near an existing fiber route that opens its arms to welcome it."

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C Spire says they'll be using their existing regional 4,000 miles of fiber (with 1,500 more being built) to feed the service, noting that their focus will initially be on towns and cities in Mississippi.

Hard deployment details are hard to find in the company's announcement, which only states they'll try to provide the service at a "competitive" price. The company's website is similarly devoid of specifics, featuring little more than a marketing video and a link (pdf) for interested applicants.

"As a brand that's been pushing the envelope of innovation our entire existence, it's only natural for us to want to provide the 'what's next' to the customers we serve," said Hu Meena, president and CEO of C Spire Wireless in a statement. "The 'what's next' is now here and we're ready to release the power of 1 Gig fiber to communities that want to experience the immediate and lasting benefits of 100 times the speed and 100 times the opportunities."

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Ever since Google Fiber captured the popular imagination by offering symmetrical 1 Gbps services for $70, we've seen no limit of "me too" offerings from ISPs (especially ISPs whose services stray well behind "next gen" classification) trying to capture some of the same enthusiasm with a press release and a wink. I affectionately call this "fiber to the press release."

AT&T for example has promised to bring 1 Gbps to a small Austin development, while CenturyLink has promised to bring 1 Gbps to similar MDUs in Omaha. Such offerings are largely PR exercises to deflect criticism for offering sluggish services, running discordantly alongside the reality that many AT&T and CenturyLink customers are lucky if they can get capped 1.5 to 6 Mbps DSL.

While C Spire's certainly aiming for some of the same PR and sweetheart municipal perks Google Fiber and its "me too" derivatives enjoy, C Spire's announcement at least sounds like they're ready to deploy on a slightly broader scale. We'll find out soon; the company says they'll offer more details at a September 30 "town hall meeting" at the C Spire corporate headquarters.

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wildridge

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C Spire Fiber

I hope they don't roll out fiber the way they did 4G. Coverage is spotty focusing on a handful of towns/cities who already had other options.

Slowverse

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Google's intention

It was Google's intention to show that fiber is the only viable path for the telcos with Google Fiber in Kansas City. It looks like they have started a chain reaction. The incumbents will start feeling pressure and be forced to lay fiber if this continues.

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

And we're giving credit to Google, why? The real Pioneers of FTTP in this country is Verizon, a telco who you believe needs to learn from ? Google? . Thats a joke. FiOS is actually deployed on a very large scale for almost a decade. They have much more fiber run than Google , muni's and startups combined.

DataRiker
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Re: Google's intention

Remember for most of its life Verizon offered only marginally better speeds than cable at slightly more expensive prices.

Hardly pioneering.

Offering 1 Gbit/s by 1 Gbit/s for 70 dollars a month and starting a chain reaction is pioneering

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

Youre right, passing like 20 million homes with fiber isnt pioneering, sigh. Gbps? Does it really matter? When there are real applications/demand, and its actually profitable, Verizon will release a new PON, and it IS that simple when the architecture is in place.

"Hardly pioneering" , and if Google ran FTTP ten years ago, would it have been Gbps?? Let me answer for you. NO. Funny how Google waited ten years to start running FTTP, even though the technology was available.

Google hasnt Pioneered ANYTHING when it comes to their flavor of FTTP.

ITALIAN926

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PS, dont you think such a pioneering company like Google should be listed HERE? »/gbu/ Do you need like 10 subscribers to qualify on this websites reviews?
34764170

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Verizon does deserve credit to a certain extent but they also rolled it out like really really bad swiss cheese; which is a joke.
tmc8080

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Re: Google's intention

The initial rollout wasn't bad, the alleged competition and subsequent focus on wireless, and bad upgrade pathways have made FIOS more of a punchline than a joke. For YEARS, cablevision and time warner were hocking triple play for $90 a month and along comes FIOS at higher prices.. sure, the broadband was attractive to those who were getting severely throttled at the pleasure of managers who thought it was funny to see how many customers they can squeeze on a node before they lost customers to the higher priced service. Finally, the FCC restored sanity by naming and shaming them for the practice after getting caught "BYTE deficient handed" .

You will not impress those in the corner of the incumbents, whether they are brainwashed, drank the cooaid for far too long or have some vested interest in supporting them (ie works for the company) who's to say... Many of us were hopeful Verizon would turn out to be a good company.. but since the focus on wireless (and other credibility destroying actions), they have spent their last $ of credibility with many customers and former customers. Therefore, ANY new competition that does right by the customer is welcome.

AND, if incumbents do virtually nothing in 2014 (when new technologies and standards to increase speeds are set to drop)to offer faster speeds/better value, I say let the 3rd party carriers eat cake.. come to the NORTHEAST and take away high ROI customers away from the incumbents here too! Because if you don't build and upgrade, you sure as hell better get out of the way for those who do!!

Slowverse

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said by ITALIAN926:

And we're giving credit to Google, why? The real Pioneers of FTTP in this country is Verizon, a telco who you believe needs to learn from ? Google? . Thats a joke. FiOS is actually deployed on a very large scale for almost a decade. They have much more fiber run than Google , muni's and startups combined.

FiOS is slower and FAR more expensive than Google Fiber. When deploying fiber why not try to beat the cable companies? Verizon is just doing enough to compete. Google is upsetting the market.

Google deserves the credit.

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

Upsetting the market? Any citations to back that statement? What exactly is their penetration rates in the tiny area they ran FTTP?

DataRiker
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Re: Google's intention

Read the front page news here. ATT is talking about deploying 1 Gig service because of Google.

Centrylink is about to deploy 1 Gig service because of Google.

Time Warner upgraded infrastructure here and offered 100 megs because of Google.

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

Yea, Earth shattering effects.

"talking about" , "about to" , Time Warner upgraded to 100Mbps? Wow. Thank God for Google.
Chubbysumo

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and its all fiber to the press release until they actually put some fiber down. Centurylink will never deploy FTTH, nor will AT&T, since both companies have too much invested in their hybrid networks, dropping one portion you spent so much on is not something investors like. Let me know when you have any markets where centurylink FTTH, with 1GBPS speeds are available, at a reasonable price.
TBBroadband

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Re: Google's intention

what is wrong with a hybrid network? Cable has one and it works just fine.
34764170

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Re: Google's intention

North American cable networks will not and cannot deliver the same levels of performance.
TBBroadband

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Only Karl claimed that's why they're building the service. That article was written with GF on the back half- well more than half of it.
Bengie25

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Yet another City in the East recently started rolling out FTTH using the same equipment that Google had custom made and pretty much doing it the same way.

They're also going strait to 1g/1g.

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

.. and its not because of GOOGLE. Google did not pioneer FTTP in the US, they didnt even Pioneer 1 Gig service ! I would love to know the number of subscribers each company has. Id bet there are 5 FTTP companies in this country with more subs than Google. Plenty of countries deployed Gbps for a while now.

They have a popular name, thats IT. Considering the massive size of their wallet, their tiny rollout is quite embarrassing.

Does ANYONE know how many subscribers Google has? Have they even released any numbers yet.
34764170

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Re: Google's intention

But they did pioneer the network architecture they're using which allows them to offer symmetrical 1Gbps service and designed their own equipment which allowed them to do so.

Slowverse

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said by ITALIAN926:

Upsetting the market? Any citations to back that statement? What exactly is their penetration rates in the tiny area they ran FTTP?

Look, I'm not going to argue about it. Before Google deploying fiber there wasn't any other companies outside of Verizon (now dead) and municipalities talking about FTTH.
TBBroadband

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Re: Google's intention

you are wrong. Do you know how many Cities built their own FTTH network BEFORE Google? Do you realize how many Co-op and small mom and pop telcos that have FTTH? They've had it well before Google ever thought about getting into the business. They also cover RURAL areas and now the heart of KC or Austin either.

DataRiker
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Re: Google's intention

Google was the first to offer 70 dollar 1 Gbit/s Symmetrical service in the states with no CAP.

FIOS business has a confirmed cap of about 4 TB, which leaves me to believe their residential offering is in the sub TB rage. ( In true telco fashion of yesteryear its some vague number never really defined )

It seems FIOS was not engineered for the future.

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

LOL, yea lets talk about caps. What was it? 40 users out of 5,000,000?

or .0008 % of their internet subscribers are being thrown off the network for obscene usage. Of which, the majority are probably engaging in copyright infringement. So they should consider themselves lucky of getting warning letters opposed to lawsuits.

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It seems FIOS was not engineered for the future.
No, not at all. They only ran fiber to like 6 Million subs premises, passed like 20 million, and is a PON network. Soooo not engineered for the future. lol They can upgrade to XPON or better anytime they want.

DataRiker
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Re: Google's intention

Sugar coat it all you like. A 4 TB cap on a Business Fiber connection is an extremely scary precedent.

ITALIAN926

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Re: Google's intention

Show me where an official 4TB CAP is mentioned, you can even magnify the tiny writing at the bottom of every advertisement. You are referencing a CONVERSATION between Houkanouchi (sp?) and a Verizon rep. where he was using 40-80TB a month ! lol.

You want your cake and eat it too? Because if you believe Verizon has a 4TB CAP, and only 40 users out of 5,000,000 reach that, your entire argument that Gbps is essential for the broadband users of this country.. GOES RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW.

There is no official 4TB CAP, Id Love to read your comments about Comcast when they had an official 0.25 TB CAP.

Bottom line, Google offers $70 Gbps, great. There have been many other providers offering that speed for some time, and Verizon passing hundreds of towns/cities is far more impressive than Google offering Gbps to a handful of people.

I would find it amusing when Google looks at their usage stats, and they see their Gbps subscribers averaging like 20Mbps, WHEN its being used ! lol.

ITALIAN926

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Look, I'm not going to argue about it. Before Google deploying fiber there wasn't any other companies outside of Verizon (now dead) and municipalities talking about FTTH.
You cant argue about it, particularly when you claim Verizon is "dead" . Verizon is spending a helluva lot more money running FTTP right now than Google is. Yes, they have to satisfy current franchise agreements in hundreds of cities/towns. Unlike Google who has like 5?
Chubbysumo

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Fiber to the press release

seem that all the companies want to get in on this FTTPr craze, and even a wireless company is now joining in, while doing nothing. What will they think of next?

FFH
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Putting onus on communities to give favorable terms

C Spire is using the same strategy as Google - get the communities to beg for service and waive all the franchise rules that used to be applied to the cable companies. Cable companies used to have to bribe communities and their political leaders with free this and free that and with jobs for pols relatives and also pay big franchise fees. Now, with the 1 gbps carrot, the providers are demanding that communities waive franchise fees or accept very reduced fees, provide access, take on lawsuit risks, etc in order to get fiber.

This new attitude may last for awhile, but comapnies should strike while the iron is hot. Sooner or later, the pols and the voters will no longer accept these sweetheart deals to get faster access.
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TBBroadband

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Re: Putting onus on communities to give favorable terms

Its easy to get into a city when the state manages the franchise rules. That's what AT&T did. And the cable companies are having their cake with that as well.
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Competition is good

I live in Mississippi and cspire is the only local wireless competition. I'm certain my location won't get fiber anytime soon, but this is a step in the right direction. If nothing else, it'll hopefully motivate the incumbents to provide a better level of service. Hopefully cspire commits and this is more than a publicity stunt. It's an interesting growth opportunity as a lot of their existing knowledge and infrastructure can be used.
ISurfTooMuch

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Re: Competition is good

I grew up in the Delta, and I certainly hope they do something up there. Greenville sure needs all the help it can get to jumpstart its economy. It was looking extremely rough the last time I was there.

If I had to guess, though, it'll hit Madison County, Oxford, and maybe the Coast. The more affluent parts of Jackson might also get it.

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ryu4000

join:2006-11-18
Picayune, MS

Nice!!

Nice hoping for them to make it my way we find out soon would love to drop charter for super speed.

Pashune
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Wow

As a Mississippi native I can't deny my excitement for this.

I knew someday we'd have regular access to fiber (decades from now) but I didn't expect such an announcement coming from a cellular company.

To be honest I'm stunned.
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jimbopalmer
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C Spire to Deploy 1 Gbps Residential Fiber

There is a very simple, very real reason C Spire has to run the fiber. A T1 won't support LTE. So C Spire must run fiber to every cell tower they own if they intend to off LTE servce.

Rather than eat all that fiber as a cost of owning towers, why not sell it where it passes other potential customers? I would not expect C Spire to sell fiber where they do not own towers.

»www.cspire.com/company_info/about/network/

While you can view C Spire as a wireless company, all that bandwidth has to get to the tower somehow.
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mGr

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good news then.

Good news, glad to see something announced like this in MS. I'm pretty sure It will only roll out to the universities, and the Jackson area and the coast first.