 Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI
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| Never trust at&t Open access is an illusion.
at&t must be thinking; "Sure, we'll let any device on our network. We're also going to prioritize the traffic of the handsets we find most to our liking (the ones that sell $2.99 ringtones)"
Google MUST win this auction. Simply relying on the carriers to give fair open access (seriously, you have to be kidding yourself if you think at&t would really do this for the consumer) would be a mistake. So long as carriers own the pipes and the airways, they will, in the long run, determine what type of traffic will go on their network. (Please Google at&t and bittorrent)
Please Google, win this spectrum auction. | |
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mjgould
join:2006-04-30
Bowling Green, OH | Google I really hope that Google won. I would like to see what they would do with the spectrum. | |
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join:2005-12-22
Pittsburgh, PA | Re: Google Nobody has won anything yet. Both the packages (8 license 50 state, 2 license each Atlantic and Pacific) and the individual licenses can still be bid on. | |
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join:2006-04-30
Bowling Green, OH | Re: Google I hope that Google will win. | |
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decadent
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join:2002-04-02
Piscataway, NJ
| said by mjgould  :I would like to see what they would do with the spectrum. Actually, it was smart move for Google to push open access. They can get access now both way. If carriers start bidding war, they can just use the open access conditions instead of over paying. Otherwise, they will get the spectrum for the reserved price, if carriers think the open access is not fair. | |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| means nothing for us poor schlubs call me a cynic, but I don't see anything at all for consumers coming out of this auction.
there probably won't be any new entrants, so no competition in the cell phone space.
the D block will just be remembered as a big joke, it won't meet the minimum and will be auctioned off with no restrictions - it wouldn't even surprise me if the emergency services requirement disappears.
I don't think we are going to see any new broadband wireless services either, one or more incumbents will get the bandwidth and just sit on it or use it for better cell service.
bottom line: nothing for consumers in the way of competition or new services. | |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
| Re: means nothing for us poor schlubs said by nasadude :call me a cynic, but I don't see anything at all for consumers coming out of this auction. there probably won't be any new entrants, so no competition in the cell phone space. the D block will just be remembered as a big joke, it won't meet the minimum and will be auctioned off with no restrictions - it wouldn't even surprise me if the emergency services requirement disappears. I don't think we are going to see any new broadband wireless services either, one or more incumbents will get the bandwidth and just sit on it or use it for better cell service. bottom line: nothing for consumers in the way of competition or new services. Sounds about right... | |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
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| well, we don't have to be THAT pessimistic.
if this bid is the first and only bid to push things into the open access realm, i suppose there's a 30-70 chance that it actually was google. wouldn't that be cool?
d-block - if no-one bids on it, then maybe it should just be granted to the idea of public emergency. if no-one wants to buy it with the restrictions, then just let the restrictions stand. especially if the total minimum bid has already been met.
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam. | |
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join:2005-12-22
Pittsburgh, PA
| said by nasadude :the D block will just be remembered as a big joke, it won't meet the minimum and will be auctioned off with no restrictions - it wouldn't even surprise me if the emergency services requirement disappears. Not going to happen because the government has to find a way to get the public safety network built. The FCC will first attempt to re-auction with perhaps fewer restrictions and definitely a lower reserve price but the emergency services requirement has to stay. If there's no winning bid in the second auction then it will be up to Congress to decide. | |
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xenophon
join:2007-09-17 | If google wins... If Google wins Block C, which gives 22mhz spectrum in all 50 states, where would ATT or Verizon put LTE? Do they have 20mhz of spectrum available nationwide to deploy LTE? | |
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| Re: If google wins... AT&T bought a load of spectrum from Aloha Partners awhile back- reports say that there were two main bidders for this Block that are going back and forth, which to me at least implies that AT&T feels the Aloha spectrum is enough and that Verizon is going up against Google- or maybe Google didn't bother and it's AT&T vs. Verizon, each thinking the other one is Google... be interesting to see what happens when the auction ends and everything comes out. | |
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join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| Re: If google wins... There are enough facts to lead to the conclusion that Google made the decision awhile ago to bid this block very seriously. In fact there are rumors they are teamed up with Sprint and Clearwire in a secret partnership. But the simple fact that they built a 700mhz test network, all the routers and hardware to run it and everything in their test lab to me indicates they are very serious. Combined with the mobile data center they developed that they can setup these things in every city, possibly one on every tower.
Google knows that ATT and Verizon have the political power to block any net neutrality laws. Google also knows ATT, Verizon and Comcast are going to implement access slowing against Google at some point, probably with MS paying $$$ to do it. That's why this auction is so important to their future, so they are going to go ahead and setup Google Internet which they can use as a club against all national providers that try to implement network prioritization against Google. | |
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join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | Re: If google wins... EXACTLY!
Thank you, finally someone who hit the nail on the head. | |
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join:2007-09-17 | If this is true and they hook up with Sprint, they'll have access to Sprint's 50K+ cellsites. I would also expect Sprint to spin-off the WiMAX group allowing Google/Intel to invest while maintaining their own WiMAX spectrum. | |
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fishmaster
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join:2004-10-08
Rockford, IL
·Comcast
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| Will anything really Good become of this?? I'll Just do the 'Wait & See' approach with a guarded heart and wallet. A lot of Good scenarios can be hypothesized. Rest assured those people that are fronting the money will definitely want a larger return & usually pretty quick. Somehow I get the feeling that the consumer/taxpayers are going to do most of the bill flipping in one form or another.
I am not against companies making a profit & Investors getting paid reasonably. What I am against is the lobbying for money from the Government to carry stuff out and not following through with it or dropping the Ball because its just not as highly profitable & at the same time imposing other fees and surcharges to the customer to cover the lobbying, campaign contributions & fat CEO expenses with change to spare.
I imagine there are a few ideas in the works that some of us haven't fathomed yet. Hope for the Best but brace for the worse...*ok I admit there is a slight rant here..Reality Folks!! | |
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brisonic
join:2001-08-05
San Diego, CA | look at this revenue haul Yet more dough to the government, we ought to repeal income tax for a year with this much dough going in. | |
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Vertickle
join:2003-08-05
Madison, AL
| Re: look at this revenue haul said by brisonic :Yet more dough to the government, we ought to repeal income tax for a year with this much dough going in. Good luck with that!
The more they (goverment) get the more they (goverment again) want. | |
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ricep5
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join:2000-08-07
Jacksonville, FL | Clash of the Titans It's the walled gardens versus the billboard gardens.
Who will win the battle? Sounds like a movie to me.
Instead of "West Side Story" its "Broad Band Story"
Instead of "Escape from Alcatraz", its the "Escape from Block D" | |
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C-Block Spectrum Auction Hits Reserve Price