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Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Charging..... I think that's a little ridiculous to charge for the ability to remotely control your DVR.
The DISH one sounds interesting. Hopefully AT&T does some thing U-Verse along those lines. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Charging..... said by gdm  :I think that's a little ridiculous to charge for the ability to remotely control your DVR. The DISH one sounds interesting. Hopefully AT&T does some thing U-Verse along those lines. The whole thing is kinda silly. It only works on a few select Verizon phones. It should work on all phones with the ability to access the internet, but they cornered themselves with proprietary software that takes way too much time to test and implement on each device.
They charge an extra $4 over a standard DVR. ($19.99 vs. $15.99) The Home Media DVR allows you to stream media from your PC to your TV along with some other features, such as playing back recorded shows on multiple TV's from one location. So the price increase is integrated into other services.
Still, the whole thing is poorly implemented. I should, and would like to program my DVR from any device with access to the internet, but I don't need the other features. | |
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gdm
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | Re: Charging..... It amazes me that with how much Verizon has put into Fios that it lacks some basic things that Dish, Direct and U-Verse can do. | |
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join:2008-08-01
019405
| Re: Charging..... said by gdm :It amazes me that with how much Verizon has put into Fios that it lacks some basic things that Dish, Direct and U-Verse can do. Like a TRUE 16x9 guide? Who knows why Verizon didn't insist Motorola incorporate a 16x9 guide, like AT&T did. | |
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Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ | Hi,
It is free but the Home DVR is what you are paying for.
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Charging..... said by Lee GWB :Hi, It is free but the Home DVR is what you are paying for. Lee Is that kind of like the air conditioning is free in my car.  | |
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Lee GWB
Yaco
Premium
join:2001-10-13
Allendale, NJ | Re: Charging..... No.. Like Heat is free LOL | |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| Nice to see... that the Death Star monitors the front pages of BBR. I'm sure they'll be happy as well as the others to know that most of this scheduling will be going on while they're at work...further cutting productivity!
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Nice to see... If AT$T did that they'd know how many customers either #1 Hate U-Verse or #2 wish they'd just expand the areas they already service instead of turning on the limited service in other cities. and mostly know that #3 they should just give up with their DSL | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
 ·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Nice to see... said by hottboiinnc :If AT$T did that they'd know how many customers either #1 Hate U-Verse You might want to go read the latest Consumer Reports. They found almost exactly the opposite.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Nice to see... And how many people do that actually call and ask. Very few. But then again Consumer Reports is the one telling customers false information about Whirlpool brand washers. | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
1 edit | Re: Nice to see... Believe what you want. Objectivity is evidently not part of your Zeitgeist.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Nice to see... Well why should i believe them? they're the ones that put out information that they claim is true based on interviews by a limited number of people instead of the entire base or even half the base.
Out of the million+ customers that ATT has for U-Verse i'm sure Consumer Reports didn't even has a 1/4 of those customers.
And then you claim that they're true?
Or how about they claim that Whrilpool washer motors are still the best in the industry and still made by Whirlpool. HA! not even true! They're made by another company that actually is a competitor of Whirlpool | |
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Nice to see... How many customers have you surveyed before forming your opinion?
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Nice to see... Its called at least talk to the people in your area that can get it. You also talk to random people on here. ATT's product in general is not liked.
But you should know that since you read on here too.
And since when do you require a customer to get TV or Voice just to get their "HSI" DSL. | |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
 ·PHONE POWER
·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T CallVantage
·Time Warner VOIP
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Nice to see... said by hottboiinnc :Its called at least talk to the people in your area that can get it. You also talk to random people on here. ATT's product in general is not liked. But you should know that since you read on here too. And since when do you require a customer to get TV or Voice just to get their "HSI" DSL. JD Powers also disagrees with your assessment. They ranked U-verse #1 in customer satisfaction. Us geeks at BBR seem to have given you a skewed perspective of the average American.
All that said, some recent trends of missed installation appointments and price hikes may change the outcome of future surveys if AT&T doesn't get their act together quickly.
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Nice to see... You call JD Power reliable? HAHAHAH! They're the same company that ranks T-Mobile and VZW the same as far as reviews but VZW always manages to have the win. You can't have two companies that rank the same and one come out a head and be called the "winner". Nice money from CellCo Partnership given to them as well.
AT$T has never had their act together ever since they went to SBC to AT$T. After that they could careless. But they'll all be coming to a fall thanks to the cable companies. | |
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@bellsouth.net | Um I have HSI UVerse only here. I like my Directv and wanted internet only. Went into the at&t wireless store and got it | |
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mystryfiostk
join:2008-07-17
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| said by hottboiinnc :Well why should i believe them? they're the ones that put out information that they claim is true based on interviews by a limited number of people instead of the entire base or even half the base. Out of the million+ customers that ATT has for U-Verse i'm sure Consumer Reports didn't even has a 1/4 of those customers. l You must not have needed a Statistics 101 class for that Fresh Market gig, huh. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Tivo FTW Nothing I can not do with them.
Export to pc and convert to mobile format..
watch from pc
stream to other dvr
Netflix and Amazon Streaming..
and it gets better every year.. unle3ss you have direct 
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58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Re: Tivo FTW That DirecTV problem may be resolved soon. Evidently they've kissed and are making up.
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| Using Fios TV Now Maybe Verizon should fix what they stuck the customer with first.
The HDMI interface blows goats, almost daily I have to power cycle the HD DVR.
Customer support recommends using component video, but this unhappy customer recommends they fix the interface and follow the HDMI standard before my departure to some other provider becomes the preferred solution.
I have both connected and the HDMI, when working, sounds better than the other option. | |
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agilityman00
Dogs rule
Premium
join:2004-12-19
Carmel, NY
·magicjack.com
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Using Fios TV Now said by lesopp :Maybe Verizon should fix what they stuck the customer with first. The HDMI interface blows goats, almost daily I have to power cycle the HD DVR. I though that there was a software update to correct that issue. I had FIOS installed two weeks ago and I can run HDMI without any problem. I'm not home so I don't know what version I am running. The installer did say that now they are recommending HDMI over component. | |
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pcme2000
join:2008-01-17
Bangor, ME | CES: Dish, Verizon Showcase Remote DVRs Lets not forget that DirecTv has the same thing also!! | |
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jaw2012
join:2008-08-01
019405
1 edit | useless... They should stop adding these useless extra-cost "features" and focus on the important missing aspects like storage expansion and a 16x9 HD guide so I can see 2.5hrs of guide data instead of 90mins. | |
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| fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: useless... said by jaw2012 :They should stop adding these useless extra-cost "features" and focus on the important missing aspects like storage expansion and a 16x9 HD guide so I can see 2.5hrs of guide data instead of 90mins. Yes.. "useless" features. The whole premise of the DVR is to be able to set and record a program. So, enhancing the functionality of the DVR is a useless feature. The 16x9 guide isn't as big of a issue, but I will say the storage could be.
The DVR was never intended to be a library storage container, so personally, I see no value in adding space on a rented DVR. Expanded storage on Tivo, something you own, already exists. Possibly that is where you should be looking. | |
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join:2008-08-01
019405
| Re: useless... said by fiberguy :said by jaw2012 :They should stop adding these useless extra-cost "features" and focus on the important missing aspects like storage expansion and a 16x9 HD guide so I can see 2.5hrs of guide data instead of 90mins. Yes.. "useless" features. The whole premise of the DVR is to be able to set and record a program. So, enhancing the functionality of the DVR is a useless feature. The 16x9 guide isn't as big of a issue, but I will say the storage could be. The DVR was never intended to be a library storage container, so personally, I see no value in adding space on a rented DVR. Expanded storage on Tivo, something you own, already exists. Possibly that is where you should be looking. I really don't understand why your trying to re-define the DVR. A Tivo is a DVR and the Fios 7216 is a DVR, just one is a lot better than the other. Period.
Also how can you say you see no "value" in adding space in the DVR? Are you kidding me, really? Whatever dude.
Lastly, the DVR remote scheduling "feature" is worthless to me. Seriously, how many times can someone find themselves using this vs. using the regular interface? I think Verizon has their priorities screwed up if you ask me. | |
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My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Re: useless... Why not adding space? Because.. it's not necessary. The VCR has how much space? A DVD recorder has how much space?
Thank you!
The DVR with a 160GB drive is plenty.. the DVR is a time shifter.. to be honest, they should not be allowed to call them a Digital Video Recorder.. they should be called time shifters... seriously. They are NOT designed to hold large libraries. I have a 160GB box and it holds hours and hours of stuff.. the idea is to watch them and move on.
HERE is the catch.. they NEED to change their focus on them and allow the user to REMOVE the content from the DVR.
Simply adding more space? for what? to hold the content there for ever and ever and ever? makes no sense. You watch it, you delete it and move on. They need to find a way to let you catalog your content off the device.. THAT is where I'd find value.
They tied to debunk the VCR years ago.. it failed. They tried to stop the Laser Disk, DVD, and the DVD recorder.. ALL failed!
Now.. the DVR is shoving the VCR to the side.. this is removing, for many, the ability to record as much as they want for later and put it on a MEDIA for storage other than the device.
The video operators need to give VALUE by ganging up and forcing the hands of the studios and simple make the DVR capable of offloading the content. THAT is where *I* find value.
Otherwise.. bring back the VCR.
And.. how many times can someone find themselves using the feature? .. I dunno.. I've only called home a few times saying "Hey,, honey, I'm going to be late.. record X show for me please!" .. and many times no one is home. The DVR is designed for the busy person or the person who's schedule doesn't fit the programmer's desires which is why it's known as TIME SHIFTING. (watching something at another time) Therefore, I'd tend to believe that many people are going to watch something OUTSIDE of the normal realm. It's easy to NOT be there to program something so yea.. it's got a purpose. Redesigning a guide for design purpose doesn't add value.. it just changes the way you see it.
Sorry.. we have to disagree becuase you're right.. it gives YOU no use.. a big mistake when talking about the user base at large.. It's not always about just you.. a common mistake when thinking for the mass. | |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
| Directv did this also When Directv first introduced its remote/web DVR a couple of years ago, it was only accessible by its HD DVR. They later released it to its standard DVR.
Verizon's whole idea is to "encourage" folks to upgrade to its Home Media DVR in order get the remote program. | |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | MythWeb for the win MythTV can do it. I never actually do, but it can. | |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
1 edit | And how about cable? ...crickets... | |
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CES: Dish, Verizon Showcase Remote DVRs
