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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
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And one blogger has found a way for Canadian consumers to avoid the problem using Rogers' Wireless latest 3G/HSDPA Internet network instead of cable for p2p sharing.
I'm sure that he's going to have a NICE large bill for that service. Wireless data in Canada (and voice) is VERY expensive.
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
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| said by en102  :I'm sure that he's going to have a NICE large bill for that service. Wireless data in Canada (and voice) is VERY expensive. It's getting cheaper. You can now get unlimited tethered 3G data for ~$60/month. Bunch of people I know have unlimited data on their Blackberries and HTC devices for a few bucks. While it's not to the level of Europe, we're certainly catching up.
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join:2007-10-16
Richmond Hill, ON
| Re: downloading over Rogers 3g vs. Rogers Cable... said by Snickerdo :It's getting cheaper. You can now get unlimited tethered 3G data for ~$60/month. Bunch of people I know have unlimited data on their Blackberries and HTC devices for a few bucks. While it's not to the level of Europe, we're certainly catching up. Unlimited, doesnt mean there isnt a ridiculously small cap... | |
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| Re: downloading over Rogers 3g vs. Rogers Cable... said by the cerberus :Unlimited, doesnt mean there isnt a ridiculously small cap... ... of which exist on just about every cell network in the world. Good luck pulling 20GB on an HSDPA network in the US without having someone do something to make your life miserable.
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join:2004-09-01
Royalton, NB
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| Re: downloading over Rogers 3g vs. Rogers Cable... said by Snickerdo :said by the cerberus :Unlimited, doesnt mean there isnt a ridiculously small cap... ... of which exist on just about every cell network in the world. Good luck pulling 20GB on an HSDPA network in the US without having someone do something to make your life miserable. I used to pull 100 gigs a month off of Aliant's EVDO service- no issue. It costs 84 dollars a month plus tax for a 1.5/500 service, however and was far from cheap- but no caps and low ~80ms ping rates make it a great service. | |
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Snickerdo
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join:2001-02-28
St Catharines, ON
·Cogeco Cable
| Re: downloading over Rogers 3g vs. Rogers Cable... said by dave_ca :I used to pull 100 gigs a month off of Aliant's EVDO service- no issue. It costs 84 dollars a month plus tax for a 1.5/500 service, however and was far from cheap- but no caps and low ~80ms ping rates make it a great service. I know people who do crazy stuff with Bell EVDO as well. In fact, everyone who I know with a data plan on Telus has an unlimited data plan. Times are changing in this country, that's for sure.
I also know someone with an HSDPA PCMCIA card on Rogers. He has a 250MB data plan. He claims that he has never been billed for downloading more than 250MB, but he has been charged for uploading more than 250MB. Considering the amount of stuff I alone have downloaded over his HSDPA connection, I figure I would have heard something if he had received a bill the size of a phone book.
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zachary1
you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
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TemporalFlux
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join:2003-08-07
Ont, Canada
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| I think you meant to say Bell... "There is, as of yet, no word about a response from the ISP"...
I think you meant to say Bell.... Sympatico (Bell's ISP) is not involved in this. At least not directly. Technically this doesn't even have anything to do with the internet at all. It's just that everyone happens to use the service to reach their ISP for the internet access.
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tudmax
join:2005-04-08
Kitchener, ON
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| And Furthermore some Excellent Facts ... The article also states:
"The type of management that Bell is trying to justify is not legitimately considered Internet traffic at all. In fact they may be violating both the terms of the regulated service as well as federal privacy legislation to inspect the packets within these point-to-point communications to the level to even detect if they contain TCP/IP packets. There is also no legitimacy to their being congestion on these circuits, unless it is temporary due to damage within the network. The speed of the connection between the customer and the ISP (and Bell is *NOT* an ISP in this transaction) is part of the regulation."
"Given Bell can't be trusted to live up to their end of the bargain with governments, it may be time to take back these services from Bell and allow the remaining company to operate the way Bell seems to want to operate. The louder Bell tries to justify their questionably legal activity, the more we need to push to take from the table the option of bell violating their end of the bargain and getting away with it."
Please also read the whole article in link "strongly-opinionated report" »blogs.itworldcanada.com/insights···ottling/ ... some very good and wise info there.
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emerald_b
join:2008-04-07
North York, ON
| Bell's Response Bell seems to think their silence speaks volumes as to their stance on the issue, however they are just putting themselves at a greater disadvantage, as they end up looking like a joke. The CAIP has a legitimate claim and just because they hold their proverbial hands over their ears, this will not make their claim go away. They know what they are doing is anticompetitive and against the instructions of the government, and the sooner the government takes over the lines, the better it will be for everyone, seeing as bell is intent on abusing them, and making a monopoly for themselves. Its like that whole thing that we learned in elementary school, if you abuse somethin g you should loose it. | |
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| CRTC Awaits Bell Canada Response Maybe bell should let the moths fly out of the wallet and spend say a few thousand dollars instead of nothing since the 1960's. To fritter money away on throttle boxes is something the crtc should fine them for such as Comcast would have been fined by the FCC for wasting money on sandvine equipment. Comcast still has many lawsuits pending so the past hasn't been forgotten. I can only hope both bell and rogers are sued. | |
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zachary1
you talkin' to me?
join:2004-03-07
right here | Re: CRTC Awaits Bell Canada Response TR(f___)Sandvine, too! | |
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Froggy
@teksavvy.com | Thirty kilobytes per second!!?? I would hardly deem 30 kilobytes per second as broadband not even in the third world countries would 30 kilobytes per second constitute broadband by todays' standards. | |
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canuck999999
join:2004-04-19
·MTS
| Goverment reaction I am more curious as to what the reaction of the government will be to this, if the the CRTC orders Bell to lift the block. The Conservatives have already come out against net neutrality regulations so one has to wonder if they will try to overrule the CRTC if they go against the ISPs. | |
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emerald_b
join:2008-04-07
North York, ON | Re: Goverment reaction well the tories are in a bit of hot water themselves... | |
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jfmezei_
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join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·TekSavvy Solutions..
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| It is 10 business days As the other writer of a part 7 complaint on this issue, I was told 10 business days for a reply from Bell. If Bell responds sooner, fine.
But i see nothing special about Bell having missed a non-existant deadline on tuesday.
Expect Bell's answers to factually state they have the right to manage their network and that the complainst are unfounded, that Bell treats all ISPs equally etc etc.
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