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CWA Insists MetroPCS T-Mobiler Merger a Job Killer
Though Their Record on Job Creation Estimates Isn't Great
by Karl Bode 10:30AM Wednesday Dec 05 2012 Tipped by guear See Profile
The Communications Workers of America (CWA) is attacking the MetroPCS and T-Mobile merger, insisting that the deal will cost a significant number of American jobs. In a filing with the FCC (pdf), the CWA insists that the deal would result in the potential loss of more than 10,000 jobs, hidden under the promise of "network and non-network synergies,'' created by the deal. The CWA wants the FCC to impose merger conditions that would require the combined company retain their U.S. workforce. Says the CWA:
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This threat of job losses and reduced service quality is particularly acute given both MetroPCS's and T-Mobile's demonstrated records of eliminating or outsourcing jobs outside the U.S. in order to cut costs. MetroPCS already outsources its entire customer care, billing, payment processing and logistics operations. A portion of its vendors' call centers are located outside the U.S., including in Mexico, Antigua, Panama, and the Philippines, as part of the company's stated business strategy of outsourcing its call centers to cut operational costs. And soon after its failed attempt to merge with AT&T, T-Mobile closed seven of its 24 call centers and displaced 3,300 employees.
Unfortunately, the CWA's job math often isn't reliable, and not-so-shockingly shifts dramatically depending on their interests just like any organization or company. You'll recall the CWA breathlessly supported AT&T's takeover of T-Mobile simply to get another 20,000 dues-paying members, ignoring the tens of thousands of non-unionized support, management and retail jobs that would have been destroyed by the deal.

The CWA consistently lied, claiming that deal would create 100,000 jobs -- when they were actually again talking about "job years" -- and ignoring other estimates that predicted heavy employment losses due to the anti-competitive deal (significantly more than occurred after regulatory rejection of the deal).

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jseymour

join:2009-12-11
Waterford, MI

Hypocrisy At Its Finest

This is the same CWA that insisted T-Mobile being borged by the thing that calls itself "AT&T" these days would create jobs?

Jim
jagged

join:2003-07-01
Boynton Beach, FL

Re: Hypocrisy At Its Finest

Tmobile is not unionized, never has been probably never will be. Its employees have shut down every attempt at being unionized. So CWA won't have new members therefore bad.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
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Re: Hypocrisy At Its Finest

Also generally EU companies and people that work for them won't unionize. I worked for an EU company and the company was AWESOME to work for! Would still be with them if the mgt in the store wasn't so horrible (well managers stealing products) and the DM and other Company officials in the US would do their jobs.
tpkatl

join:2009-11-16
Dacula, GA

1 recommendation

Why would anyone believe the CWA?

Nuff said.

verizonlteda

@myvzw.com

Re: Hypocrisy At Its Finest

Half the people on this planet is Hypocrisy...

NOCMan
MacChatter
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join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO
said by jseymour:

This is the same CWA that insisted T-Mobile being borged by the thing that calls itself "AT&T" these days would create jobs?

Jim

Note: I'm not in a Union, and have never been in a Union other than being an American Citizen.

Can you point out any telecom merger that has not resulted in job loss?

Tell you what, you will now work 7 days a week, with a half day off on sunday for religious services, you will work 14 hours a day, no time off or vacation, and if you get hurt on the job, it's your fault and you're fired because of it.

You fail to realize what Unions have bought working Americans and others across the globe. You take it for granted and bash the Unions because someone told you Unions were bad and you go parroting it off to anyone who is just as dumb to listen.

Get a clue, the first part of our Constitution says "We the people".
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RiseAbove
Premium
join:2004-01-30

Anybody shocked?

the CWA does whatever helps the CWA and screws over the people. I have worked under the CWA and they are a horrible union with essentially no power. They do nothing to help out employees who have been wronged, I saw this multiple times, and they always back management.

I am all for unions but they have to be there for the people they are representing. The CWA is just a cash grab by a greedy organization.

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY

1 recommendation

Re: Anybody shocked?

said by RiseAbove:

the CWA does whatever helps the CWA and screws over the people. I have worked under the CWA and they are a horrible union with essentially no power. They do nothing to help out employees who have been wronged, I saw this multiple times, and they always back management.

How is this different than any other organization? The union has one major interest; perpetuating itself and its leadership (after all, the last thing they want to do is have to go back to doing the real labor they supposedly represent). And of course they will accept layoffs. Once laid off, a worker is no longer a member of most unions and cannot vote out the leadership that caused them to lose their job.

My father was in a professional union for a long time and the union was never there to help him with a grievance but they were front and center to collect dues and demand he man a picket line.
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Angrychair

join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
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Re: Anybody shocked?

said by n2jtx:

My father was in a professional union for a long time and the union was never there to help him with a grievance but they were front and center to collect dues and demand he man a picket line.

Which union?
silbaco
Premium
join:2009-08-03
USA

Wouldn't doubt it....

Despite coming from the CWA, has consolidation ever resulted in a gain of jobs? Obviously there will be layoffs if this merger goes through. 10,000... doesn't sound that unreasonable. That is just how business works.

kpfx

join:2005-10-28
San Antonio, TX

Re: Wouldn't doubt it....

10,000 lost jobs due to the merger? Calling the CWA's math unreliable is an understatement.

MetroPCS only has 3,600 employees while T-Mobile USA claims 36,000 employees....

MetroPCS: »www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/···d10k.htm
T-Mobile USA: »www.t-mobile.com/Company/Company···Overview

Metatron2008
Premium
join:2008-09-02
united state

Re: Wouldn't doubt it....

Yeah, I would bet closer to 500-2000 jobs lost.

buddahbless

join:2005-03-21
Premium
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Re: Wouldn't doubt it....

I actually agree with you the numbers they post are off, I'd assume more like a few hundred to 1-3k the most. and the thing is most of those will probably be outsourced positions held currently by metro pcs, as there subsiding and switching to TMO, not many US employees will probably be let go, they will just be given more work.

NOCMan
MacChatter
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO
Verizon Wireless had 40,000 ish employees after the mega merger that created it. To get to that number they laid off more than 10,000 workers.
brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1
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MetroPCS

MetroPCS is ghetto as it comes for a cellular network. Most people they hire are students and people with no work experience. You guys should try waiting in line at one of these places. It is worse than a post office. They hire maybe 2 - 3 people to service 30 - 40 people waiting in line for over an hour. I have gone to two MetroPcs locations and never seen such horrible customer service before in my life.
jc100

join:2002-04-10

Re: MetroPCS

You my friend have never heard of Cricket, where unlimited local calling plans are sold for a dollar per day.
brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

Re: MetroPCS

Haha, we do not have Cricket here in the South.

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Re: MetroPCS

Cricket is available in most every southern US market.
brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Tampa, FL
kudos:1

Re: MetroPCS

Which cell phone provider do they use?

battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

Re: MetroPCS

I really don't know what they use where.
jc100

join:2002-04-10
I'm pretty sure Cricket is nationwide? Trust me when I say Cricket takes Ghetto to a whole new extreme. A customer that keeps their phone activated for a day and pays their bill is given props for loyalty. I'm sure those individuals comprise a very small base of subscribers.

In the line of work I did, those numbers were disconnected faster than issued. Valuable tip, they can still receive text messages I'm told even if phone is shut off.
unoriginal
Premium
join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA
Metro and Cricket have very little overlap in their coverage areas. Which is why I always thought it would be great it they would eventually merge to give us another nationwide provider. But this deal with T-mo pretty much kills that idea.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
According to Northcoast PCS (Revol.com) They're buying more of Cricket from LEAP as they did previously in the Midwest. But if anyone things Metro is horrible, wait until you deal with Revol.

NOCTech75
Premium
join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA

Come on CWA shills

I know you are out there.. refute this, tell us all how it's a complete lie.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: Come on CWA shills

do the math. it was already posted.

ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Just another...

Justification as to why the unions of today are useless to the actual paying members and should be abolished.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: Just another...

Unless you commit a crime then they are there to protect you.

ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Re: Just another...

I hope you just forgot the sarcasm tag..

They are only there to keep the money flowing to the union bosses income and lavish life styles.
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH

Re: Just another...

sarcasm tag for who? me?

ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA

Re: Just another...

Yes, you are the only that has replied to me and the one I replied to..
TBBroadband

join:2012-10-26
Fremont, OH
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Re: Just another...

It didn't say you replied to me.

And I was being serious. This summer and the first part of Spring. The union has stopped two employers from firing two different employees. Both employers were on different sides of the state. They were NOT fired due to their contract said they could NOT be.

Both employees work for the gov't. Both employees were caught on camera and by the public for animal abuse/neglect. One threw a puppy up against a concrete wall, guy still has his job even though 4 months earlier served jail time for beating up his gf and his gf's mom. Union prevented termination for that.

One killed a full size dog by stabbing him with a arrow type object and then washing him down with a pressure washer- the pressure washer was aimed right for the stab wound.

Both issues made national news.

NOCMan
MacChatter
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join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO

Re: Just another...

I watch it daily as part of my job and never heard about it.

Names or it did not happen.

LightS
Premium
join:2005-12-17
Greenville, TX
Not all unions.

Kommie
Premium
join:2003-05-13
united state
kudos:3

CWA sold out to the bossman a long time ago

CWA sold out to the boss man a long time ago

Decertification should be a lot easier for the workers where CWA does nothing.
schmolf4

join:2011-06-23

Unions suck

guessing the unions have no problems putting 18000+ Hostess employees out of work because they refused a slight pay cut contract...

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jam_bongo

join:2002-07-17
Toronto, ON

CWA read a business textbook shocking!

I am a bit suspect on how they got a 10,000 figure but the prevailing conventional wisdom of most mergers is that they are often failures leading to job losses... HP-Compaq, and Sprint-Nextel come to mind
CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
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NYC
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Re: CWA read a business textbook shocking!

Yes, usually you only hear the hyped numbers from the 'job-creation' phonies... I guess the union plays both sides of the card.
jam_bongo

join:2002-07-17
Toronto, ON

Re: CWA read a business textbook shocking!

yeah I always wonder what sauce they're on when they say it creates job... when usually one of the first jobs to go is one of those at the top, can't have two CEOs..

KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

Here we go again

Every time someone tries to create stronger competition to at&t and Verizon, the CWA comes out saying it's a job killer.

Every time at&t or Verizon try to eliminate competition by absorbing or buying out a competitor, they say it's a Job creator.

The CWA should learn both at&t and Verizon on their own are far better job killers then anything anyone else could ever do.
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compton

join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Here we go again

said by KrK:

Every time someone tries to create stronger competition to at&t and Verizon, the CWA comes out saying it's a job killer.

Every time at&t or Verizon try to eliminate competition by absorbing or buying out a competitor, they say it's a Job creator.

The CWA should learn both at&t and Verizon on their own are far better job killers then anything anyone else could ever do.



That's because virtually all of CWA due paying members are from AT&T and Verizon. So due to their self interest, they will oppose any competition that could hurt AT&T and Verizon.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY

just shut up...

the potential loss of jobs from the att tmobile deal would have been much worse... the cwa just have wasted the last of their credability...