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join:2005-11-06 Felton, DE | Re: Surprise! They sell cable gear... First sentence let's us know that. | |
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join:2000-10-15 Pleasantville, NY | Re: Surprise! They sell cable gear... I thought it was worth mentioning again...
This is the same sort of "research" Microsoft has other companies do promoting Windows Server as "lower cost" than Linux.
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join:2005-09-01
1 edit | Re: Surprise! They sell cable gear... I like how microsoft claims that companies saved $x money, and consolidated x servers, and barely mention that this is mainly due to the fact that they just bought new hardware. >
I also loved how they did a test between MSSQL and Oracle on totally different platforms - one AMD, the other an Intel box, one on linux one on windows.... and used those to claim that MSSQL gets better performance...
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»www.animeneko.net/plog/blog/moto···s_oracle | |
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join:2001-02-28 Houston, TX | cool maybe they can throttle their CABLE subs bandwith more now to make way for cellular  | |
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join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| Re: Surprise! They sell cable gear... said by the article : "When we consider the needs of geographically distributed applications such as cellular telephony and WiMAX, the cable industry's fiber network has major advantages," said Michael Tattersall, CEO of Stratsoft. "They have deployed their fiber very deeply across residential geographies with fiber access points serving an average of 500 homes throughout the country. Telco fiber, in contrast, is highly concentrated around commercial corridors and highways and is generally much less dense in residential areas."
This gear would tap cableco fiber, not coax. Since fiber has almost limitless bandwidth, a cable ISP's bandwidth issues should be related to how deep they've run fiber and then how well they manage the coax-to-the-home segment. Adding phone/WiMax back haul to their fiber network should not steal bandwidth from the coax segment. | |
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join:2001-11-15 Odessa, FL | Well.............................. It looks like the Telco industry's short sighted refusal for fiber buildout is finally going to bite them in the a$$.
Let the Games begin. -- The Light Pipe is the Right Pipe !!! | |
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 |   ross96 VIP join:2000-11-02 Dayton, OH | Re: Well.............................. let's see, largest cell provider...Cingular is owned by AT&T and Bellsouth(ILEC's) and Verizon Wireless, the second largest provider.(part owned by Verizon) Wonder where they will buy all their backhaul services. | |
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join:2004-01-28 Beaumont, TX
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| Re: Well.............................. Exactly. And once AT&T and Bellsouth merge to become Ma Bell once again, they'll own 100% of Cingular. Verizon, like you said, owns their own cell also.
So what if Sprint and/or T-Mobile (the only other real competition in the cell market) buys from cable companies, the overwhelming number of customers are on Cingular and Verizon. | |
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join:2003-10-12 Yaphank, NY | They both buy from Lightpath owned by CABLEVISION. | |
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join:2000-08-03 Reisterstown, MD | Cable networks are not reliable enough Great, now my cell phone can go down too when the power goes out?
Cable companies cannot provide the near 100% up-time that the telcos provide to the cellular networks. | |
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 |   LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06 Felton, DE | Re: Cable networks are not reliable enough My service is near 100% in my area. Rarely ever do I have issues where I lose any service. | |
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join:2006-01-07 Stow, MA | For them to offer VoIP service they need to be 99.999% up time, known as the 5 nines. | |
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 |   DaveNJ No Fear
join:1999-09-01 New Jersey
·Comcast
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| said by elbm :Great, now my cell phone can go down too when the power goes out? Cable companies cannot provide the near 100% up-time that the telcos provide to the cellular networks. I am sure if the telcos can do, so can cable. It just a matter of copying the design. My power was out yesterday for 4 hrs, yet my phone worked. -- the darkest moment is often just before dawn (unless we hold onto the darkness). Anxiety spoils everything and solves nothing. | |
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| You tell me that cable has fiber? I thought is was written in stone that cable had no fiber and that Verizon and ATT were going to put cable out of business. What is all this about cable having fiber all thru residential areas? Boy you learn something new all the time.  -- Bush has a computer in his office that controls gasoline prices and the weather. Get ready for $1.50 gasoline in November and a earthquake to hit San Francisco real soon. That BUSH is A BAD MAN! | |
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join:2005-11-06 Felton, DE
| Re: You tell me that cable has fiber? said by JSRoman :I thought is was written in stone that cable had no fiber and that Verizon and ATT were going to put cable out of business. What is all this about cable having fiber all thru residential areas? Boy you learn something new all the time. AFAIK, Cable is all fiber up to the nodes. Only the last "mile" is coax. -- Fighting on the Internet is like winning the Special Olympics. Win or lose, your still Retarted! | |
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join:2006-01-07 Stow, MA
| Re: You tell me that cable has fiber? Not only do they have fiber they have many towers in key locations. These towers were installed many years ago, we actually rent space to a couple of cell companies already. ATT is one of them. They could jump onto our fiber network very easy, because where we have towers we have fiber. | |
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join:2006-01-07 Stow, MA
| Re: You tell me that cable has fiber? First off I am not speaking of Comcast, just because my user account is under comcast doesn't mean I work for them.
Second the towers I am speaking about do have fiber to all of them and the towers are in the system in which I work.
I could not possibly no if every tower in Massachusetts has fiber, but I can only speak for the ones I work on. I also know for a fact that we do lease to ATT and other cell companies tower space.
The company in my area may lease fibers from electric light, we also use level 3 and we have our own fiber ring. We also have comcast on our fiber as we are on their fibers.
Bottom line is I am saying where we lease tower space we could tie them into our fiber network. I did not mention comcast in my first post at all! So for you to assume that is very ignorant. | |
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join:2002-12-15 Everett, MA clubs:
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| Re: You tell me that cable has fiber? said by HyPeRbAnD :First off I am not speaking of Comcast, just because my user account is under comcast doesn't mean I work for them. Second the towers I am speaking about do have fiber to all of them and the towers are in the system in which I work. I could not possibly no if every tower in Massachusetts has fiber, but I can only speak for the ones I work on. I also know for a fact that we do lease to ATT and other cell companies tower space. The company in my area may lease fibers from electric light, we also use level 3 and we have our own fiber ring. We also have comcast on our fiber as we are on their fibers. Bottom line is I am saying where we lease tower space we could tie them into our fiber network. I did not mention comcast in my first post at all! So for you to assume that is very ignorant. I used comcast as an example. stop being so protective.
Also even level 3 leases fiber from national grid  -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" | |
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join:2001-03-05 Blacksburg, VA
| Already being used In the Tysons Corner area of Northern Virginia Cox provides backhaul service to Verizon and currently bringing service to Cingular. With phones getting faster data service the old T1s going to the towers won't allow for future speed increases. Cox puts the cell providers on either a PVC or a dark fiber depending on resources. | |
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 |   GOLFnSUN Enjoy the sun Premium join:2002-03-03 Avalon, NJ
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1 edit | Re: Already being used said by compuwizz :In the Tysons Corner area of Northern Virginia Cox provides backhaul service to Verizon and currently bringing service to Cingular. With phones getting faster data service the old T1s going to the towers won't allow for future speed increases. Cox puts the cell providers on either a PVC or a dark fiber depending on resources. Sounds like a nice opportunity to get a bigger return on their fiber investment while spending little money to make it happen. -- -- Join Red Room Forum BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com My Web Page | |
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@uinta.com
| Re: Already being used Now here is an interesting thought, remember that consortium of cable companies and Sprint/Nextel that just won all of that spectrum? Does anyone care to draw any conclusions from that? Sprint/Nextel has tried unsuccessfully to partner with Qwest to provide wireless service and well I'm not sure how many subscribers they can count from that. But I think that Sprint/Nextel is on the verge of something here by leveraging all of their current spectrum as well as what they just recently acquired AND then leverage the backhaul capabilities of the already in place cable infrastructure. This should be interesting to see how it all pans out for Sprint/Nextel and the Cable Consortium. | |
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join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO | Re: Already being used Hmmm. Me thinks with all that spectrum they might just use some of it for back haul and thumb their noses at both the telco and cable companies... | |
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