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Computer Elite
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join:2002-09-11
Reeds Spring, MO
clubs:  | Baby Bells Good ole baby bells dieing so slowly.. | |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
| Re: Baby Bells said by Defiance82  :Good ole baby bells dieing so slowly.. too bad too, they're tried and true! I love my POTS, I'm just wondering how bad it will be when I'm forced into the scenerio where I have to buy it. Wi9ll the tax structure be the same (you know it will eventually), will I be charged additional fees for upgrades I never see?
Basically, all of the nickel and diming my cable HSI is doing to me! | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
 ·Cox HSI
 ·AT&T Southwest
| I like Cox digital telephone--- just one problem....
... it's too expensive. When the "Introductory" price wears off, I'll probably switch back to POTS simply because it will be $10 cheaper or so.
Considering they are selling basically a VOIP product to you over the existing Cable equipment which you're already paying for Internet and TV via, I would think they should be able to better compete on price.
... of course, it's not about competition. It's about profits.
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Cabal
Premium
join:2007-01-21
Boston, MA | And in next week's news... Verizon sees competition, files lawsuit. | |
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JSRoman
Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
| Not seeing the big picture. This is great for cable companies in the short run but not in the long run. Every year more and more people ditch wireline phone service and go wireless only. Eventually a good portion of those subs that cable has scooped up will leave to go wireless only and go right back to AT&T,Verizon,Sprint unless cable gets off their ASS and starts offering a competitive wireless voice product pronto.
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN
·Comcast
| Re: Not seeing the big picture. said by JSRoman :This is great for cable companies in the short run but not in the long run. Every year more and more people ditch wireline phone service and go wireless only. And everyday we scare people into getting CDV because 911 will know where you are when you call and might not if you call from a cellphone.
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dadkins
Land of Confusion
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
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March 6th, @03:33PM
| Re: Not seeing the big picture. Even my POS $19.99 cell can show where it is for Emergency Services(think 911).
See the cross hairs on the right of this image?
That's telling you and me that Positioning is connected.
This phone's location can be seen.
This is an El Cheapo cell phone... WTF phone or service do you have that they cannot locate?
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Chuckles
Premium
join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN | Re: Not seeing the big picture. I don't have a cell phone. | |
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dadkins
Land of Confusion
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| CDV(Comcast Digital Voice) From a standpoint of being on it's own channel/freq... it beats standalone VoIP services.
No cutting into my pr0n... er uh, Research Videos.
As opposed to landline - Fuck SBC/AT&T.
SBC, way back when, is the reason we went with digital.
Dropped calls, static, dial one number - get another, getting charged for long distance for a call that went 4-5 miles, having the operator say I was in Hayward or Menlo Park... fuck all that!
AT&T Digital Phone(~16 years ago) then it changed to Comcast Digital Phone(AT&T buy out), and now CDV.
Telcos can KMA!
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Nsaneiceman_work
@greyhound.com | Re: CDV(Comcast Digital Voice) I did a good ~200 Vonage setups when I was with the Geek Squad a few months ago; Should I call MIT for my degree to make sure it is in the mail? 
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p92415
@verizon.net
| $$$ All the telcos have to do is lobby to have all of those govt. taxes, fees, and surcharges removed. If I weren't required to pay almost half my bill to the govt., then I wouldn't mind so much returning to Verizon.
(Oh, and $5 for a dial tone? $6.50 for CallerID? Yeah, riiight.) | |
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Rob
In Deo speramus
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast
| said by p92415 :All the telcos have to do is lobby to have all of those govt. taxes, fees, and surcharges removed. If I weren't required to pay almost half my bill to the govt., then I wouldn't mind so much returning to Verizon. (Oh, and $5 for a dial tone? $6.50 for CallerID? Yeah, riiight.) True, but reality is, even if the government did remove all the fees, the telcos would STILL charge the same amount. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | Re: $$$ Wow $6.50 for caller ID? That's cheap.... I think at&t charges $12.50 for it.... | |
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MeKuN
join:2004-07-21
Eugene, OR | I call BS How can they say people are happy with cable VOIP when most people in my area have slow downs with there cable broadband?
Dont you need a decent amount of bandwith to get good clarity? | |
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wifi4milez
In Need Of Garbage Pail Kids 1st Series
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Re: I call BS said by MeKuN :How can they say people are happy with cable VOIP when most people in my area have slow downs with there cable broadband? This has nothing to do with that. Most cable providers route their VoIP traffic over their own private network before it goes to the PSTN.
said by MeKuN :Dont you need a decent amount of bandwith to get good clarity? No.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_IP
»www.erlang.com/calculator/lipb/
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| List of fees: »youtube.com/watch?v=VDvXaUH6NNo
I am a lucky Verizon FIOS customer... let met just list some of the fees still charged to POTS over Fiber:
Fcc Line Charge $6.40
Federal USF $ .65
Surchages $ .19
911 Surcharge $ .35
Federal Tax $ .19
State/Local
*in this case NY$ .96
In additon:
Usf- Long Distance $1.23
Surcharges (more) $1.46
Federal tax (more) $ .18
State/Local (more) $4.16
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grand total: $15.77 (based on an unlimited calling plan with one additional option over basic: 3 way calling).
Charge for VOIP: $29.95-$40 without nickels and dimes all over the place. Then again.. it's not a GUARANTEED QOS, it's VOIP we're comparing it to... Bundled with internet under a 1 year contract it goes down to about $42 each. Still more on the bottom line than the cable competitor.. but it's two different products... FIOS Internet/(POTS)Phone vs Cablemodem & Cable VOIP. | |
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Agent 86
@comcast.net | Cable VoIP is too expensive Good luck calling on your cable VoIP to report a cable outage. | |
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Zerny
join:2007-05-04
Fort Gratiot, MI | its a Fad anyhow Cell will destroy both Pots and VOIP eventually. I would guess the large portion of consumers that have either one of these services are probably 40+ or live in montana | |
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