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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
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| the extortion gets worse Cableone seems to be in a race with Time Warner on who can gouge their customers the most. 3gb cap? Why bother. With that baseline, the "grandma's" can check their e-mail. Everyone else will be charged for actually using their service.
Nice to see the FCC stepping in and making things right for the consumer. [/sarcasm]
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 | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Re: the extortion gets worse Granted, the 3GB is per day and not per month, so it's not as horrid as TWC's proposed caps on the higher tiers. Though 1GB per month on Economy is pitiful.
Though you're right in thinking Comcast has a higher cap than CableOne. | |
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| me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | I agree. If this was like a comcast cap, the fcc would not need to be involved, but when it comes to out right price gouging/skrewing the costumer(looking at you 1gb cap with overages) then the Gov(be it the fcc or some1 else) should say 'NO!'. | |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| Re: the extortion gets worse I read that wrong...3 gb per day is better than TW, but it will still create problems. Online backups may prove to be troublesome. And I don't see this getting better in the future. The FCC needs to address capping issues now!
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join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
 ·VOIPo
1 edit | Re: the extortion gets worse Well that can't stop them from capping on their own network, the ISPs own it not the Gov. However, stuff like C.O's 1gb with overages, tw/att's metered plan where the caps are set low in hope of squeeze/gouging metering more money from even normal(not granny) users is different. If it was meter only, a low price for the connection[like$10 or so] and $0.25 per GB then maybe it could work, but a real pay per usage/pay as you go is not what these ISPs want, it will not gouge enough money from costumers. And as for that whole 'granny shouldn't pay for the higher usage guy.' Bull, she ain't paying for him if she has more speed than she needs she can down grade, they are paying for speed not usage. And if it cost an ISP x for their connection/backbone per month, and each costumer pays y and the ISP makes z(z>x>y,) how is that not fair? They both pay y I know she doesn't use as much. but if they are not on the lowest package why can't she get a slower package(lets say it costs w)? It would lower her cost and she would not be paying for speed she don't need. Then the higher usage would be paying y and the granny w(y>w). But some want granny to pay what she does now(y) and higher user to pay g(g>>>>>>>>>>>>y). If they must meter why not real PAYG?
If it was just a cap, with no meter then well there is not much that can be done, at least with the meter they can make sure it is an accurate meter, one that does not show high than actual usage to get more money from the costumer. But, if it is clear the ISP is price gouging its costumers(which I think it is) then the Gov can(and should) step in and should something. | |
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DSLUser001
@mindspring.com | I doubt that FTC would step in to resolve the gouging. Money talks FTC listen ( Comcast and other broadband lobbyists). | |
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baineschile
2600
Premium
join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | 5gb per day isnt too bad. Thats 150gigs/mo, which is more than 3 fold tw's 40 | |
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join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
1 edit | Re: the extortion gets worse 40x3=120, so 150 is 10GB less than 4x more than tw's 40Gb. 40x4=160. | |
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join:2009-05-24
Cleveland, OH
| It's incredibly aggravating and discouraging to spread your data usage over a several day period.
Not to mention caps don't actually help manage network congestion. Not to mention there *is no* network congestion. Not to mention no ISP has ever justified their caps and throttling by revealing internal economic data. | |
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morgan1112
join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX | CableOne Sucks! I sure am glad that I am not stuck with CableOne as my Internet provider. These clowns are a buch of cheap loosers who are taking advantage of folks in a down economy. | |
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IowaStudent
Premium
join:2008-08-21
Grinnell, IA | Re: CableOne Sucks! I feel sorry for the Souix land of Iowa... At least everyware else we have Mediacom and for Council Bluffs they have COX communications | |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Skype
2 edits | Interesting FAQ answer on the 1 GB limit... »help.cableone.net/HSD/Plans/Economy/FAQ.aspx
What happens if I exceed my allocation?
After exceeding the allocated bandwidth of one gigabyte, Cable One will charge you $10 for another allocation of 1 Gigabyte (1,024 Megabytes). This incremental allocation of one gigabyte is valid only for the current billing cycle and cannot be carried forward. Each incremental one Gigabyte allocation is $10. Should you use more than 5 incremental allocations, the maximum added charge is $50.00 which brings the maximum total charge to $70.00. If I upgrade from the Economy tier up to a flat rate tier mid-month after exceeding my allocation, will I still be charged a fee?
No, however you must remain on the higher tier for at least one full billing cycle. --
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| me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Interesting FAQ answer on the 1 GB limit... Wait wait wait, wait. $10 per GB? WTF. Thats price gouging. | |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
1 edit | Re: Interesting FAQ answer on the 1 GB limit... Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back! | |
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Bah Humbug
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by funchords  :» help.cableone.net/HSD/Plans/Economy/FAQ.aspxWhat happens if I exceed my allocation?
After exceeding the allocated bandwidth of one gigabyte, Cable One will charge you $10 for another allocation of 1 Gigabyte (1,024 Megabytes). This incremental allocation of one gigabyte is valid only for the current billing cycle and cannot be carried forward. Each incremental one Gigabyte allocation is $10. Should you use more than 5 incremental allocations, the maximum added charge is $50.00 which brings the maximum total charge to $70.00. If I upgrade from the Economy tier up to a flat rate tier mid-month after exceeding my allocation, will I still be charged a fee?
No, however you must remain on the higher tier for at least one full billing cycle. You do know Funchords, the Cable defense team on this site, is going to post how this is beneficial to providing QoS to it's customers.
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neufuse
join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA
1 edit | 1GB? Gawd my SB6120 modem uses 0.94 GB per day with just routing data and noise packets..... been testing that now for a month with a modem and router at a house no one is living at... almost constant stream of noise data.... | |
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chuckie1
join:2006-06-05
Gulfport, MS
| what about the rate increase? you didn't mention anything about the $8 per month increase in the basic cable price that happened last month. if you want a rate increase to hit as many of your customers as possible, you do it on basic cable.
also, they've completely changed around their bundles and now all bundles INCLUDE phone service.
the plan i'm on was $99 when i started it (no phone service). now it's $132, and the only comparable bundle they have now is $164 (includes phone which i don't need). all of these are with the 5Mbps down and 500kbps up and the noon-midnight caps.
i know plenty of people despise ATT, but i can't wait for UVerse to become available. | |
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Jazdi
join:2009-07-06
Ottawa, ON | could be worse! That 1GB per day plan is terrific compared to what we have here in Canada from the incumbents. Bell (the ILEC) and Rogers (the cableco) have 2GB/month caps on their ~$25 2mbps lite plans. | |
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| jdjbuffalo
join:2004-01-17
Denver, CO
| Re: could be worse! That's not 1GB per day. It's 1GB PER MONTH!
CableOne's caps suck! I unfortunately use this service (5 mbit)and the daily caps on the service plus this new policy really have me thinking about jumping ship to Qwest. Even though Qwest isn't much better in this area, at least they don't have these terrible capping policies. | |
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crazyk4952
Premium
join:2002-02-04
united state
clubs: | Re: could be worse! I thought about that too, but Qwest will only provide me with 3Mb service! | |
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wakkedup
@cableone.net
| said by Jazdi :That 1GB per day plan is terrific compared to what we have here in Canada from the incumbents. Bell (the ILEC) and Rogers (the cableco) have 2GB/month caps on their ~$25 2mbps lite plans. Pretty sure it says 1GB per month, which I would assume is for low low usage, like grandma/grandpa checking e-mail and surfing to a couple links per day. | |
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Chrissy865888
@rcn.com | Ewwww. Thats the most nasty, evil sounding ISP in the entire world. Why would anyone want to do business with a company offering such abysmal service? | |
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Asmodeus
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA | The notion of caps at this point is... offensive. Seriously, what is the point of high-speed dsl or cable if caps are placed on the users who exploit these speeds. Stop with the caps, either offer full unlimited service with no caps or get out of the ISP business. | |
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| Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
·Cybersurf Corporat..
| Re: The notion of caps at this point is... take a look in your area and see if there are resellers of service.
here in canada, for dsl there is a company called teksavvy. they have a 200gb cap where bell canada is 60gb.
for cable internet, there are unlimited resellers while the cable monopoly here is 60gb as well.
there are choices, it just means more work for you in the end. give it 5 years from now. the big isps will be killed by the reseller competition and will be forced to increase their caps. | |
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join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA
| Re: The notion of caps at this point is... I don't mind working a little bit to get the type of service I need. Unfortunately in the states and specifically here in San Diego we have only 3 options and they are pretty regional; Cox, AT&T, and TW for the northern portions of San Diego County and that's it. I'm on Cox and so far they are still running unlimited. | |
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Techie1
@cableone.net
| Quit your crying... Look, working as tech support for an ISP I deal with hundreds of customers a week that are getting smashed because they have exceeded the daily limit in bandwith usage. Now what most of you do not realize is the reason we do implement these limits is because of people running business's on a residential account. Would it seem fair if because of one or two people the entire card gets capped? I know it sounds really easy to most of you. And as a consumer I do understand your ignorance, but being on the other side I realize there is a method for the madness. | |
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| chuckie1
join:2006-06-05
Gulfport, MS
| Re: Quit your crying... said by Techie1 :
Look, working as tech support for an ISP I deal with hundreds of customers a week that are getting smashed because they have exceeded the daily limit in bandwith usage. Now what most of you do not realize is the reason we do implement these limits is because of people running business's on a residential account. Would it seem fair if because of one or two people the entire card gets capped? I know it sounds really easy to most of you. And as a consumer I do understand your ignorance, but being on the other side I realize there is a method for the madness.
you call us the consumers ignorant. that's a real problem with so many tech support people.
why would you cap an entire card because of one or two people? why don't you do a little better analysis of the traffic on your network and find out who those one or two people are and deal with them individually??? | |
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@cableone.net
| Re: Quit your crying... As also a tech support rep for a ISP, i quite agree with the first Techie. These caps are for people that hog the network. Now you said to find the people and do something about. ya they can do that but then there going to cry about it say why you capping me. This is for everyone to be treated fair. If your using more then 3GB a day on your network as a residential, then WTF are you doing??????. no dam reason to be using that much unless your doing a back up. Even I, as a heavey gamer, raiding alot in WOW, and a computer geru, check my bandwith with my company, might use between 1.8-2.5 gb aday on very heavy raid night with WoW. Even if you do hit the cap that day your slowed to half your speeds. which for them would be 2.5 which still still kinda quick, in a way. Now that cap is between noon and midnight after midnight you can do the heck what ever you like. | |
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join:2001-11-07
Boise, ID
| Re: Quit your crying... lets see... mom uses VOIP to call friends. Sister watches youtube. I vnc back home during the day while i'm out and play games at night. 3+ GB a day easily. No way you can call yourself a computer guru and not break 3GB when you download for example Windows 7 beta builds or some other ISOs.
This is all pretty typical of residential usage, and they break 3GB easily (granted, not break 3GB every day)
Good thing I have qwest dsl and avoid cableone like the plague. All my other colleagues that were on cableone have seen how bad cableone is regarding internet service and switched also. | |
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| oohrah
join:2009-07-23
2 edits | The question is why would anyone put themselves on a limited plan meant for those who are "light" internet users and then complain about it? Remember you have the ability to select the "right" plan for your usage. At no time did anyone twist your arm and make you select a plan that doesn't fit your needs.... | |
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bksmith5
Premium
join:2001-04-07
Fargo, ND
·Qwest.net
|  Karl -- the post needs an update
»www.cableone.net/limits/Pages/limits.aspx
That page has been updated to reflect the new service tiers. I'll admit that business tiers get a fair bit more than residential lines, but it's still not "cap-free" as business lines ought to be, IMO. I will continue to vote with my wallet and stay with CableOne or go with Midcontinent Cable (should they ever move into my area). I advise everyone I know to do the same, if possible. | |
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