S_engineer Premium Member join:2007-05-16 Chicago, IL |
the extortion gets worseCableone seems to be in a race with Time Warner on who can gouge their customers the most. 3gb cap? Why bother. With that baseline, the "grandma's" can check their e-mail. Everyone else will be charged for actually using their service.
Nice to see the FCC stepping in and making things right for the consumer. [/sarcasm] | |
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iansltx
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2009-Jul-20 11:36 am
Re: the extortion gets worseGranted, the 3GB is per day and not per month, so it's not as horrid as TWC's proposed caps on the higher tiers. Though 1GB per month on Economy is pitiful.
Though you're right in thinking Comcast has a higher cap than CableOne. | |
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I agree. If this was like a comcast cap, the fcc would not need to be involved, but when it comes to out right price gouging/skrewing the costumer(looking at you 1gb cap with overages) then the Gov(be it the fcc or some1 else) should say 'NO!'. | |
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Re: the extortion gets worseI read that wrong...3 gb per day is better than TW, but it will still create problems. Online backups may prove to be troublesome. And I don't see this getting better in the future. The FCC needs to address capping issues now! | |
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me1212
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2009-Jul-20 12:14 pm
Re: the extortion gets worseWell that can't stop them from capping on their own network, the ISPs own it not the Gov. However, stuff like C.O's 1gb with overages, tw/att's metered plan where the caps are set low in hope of squeeze/gouging metering more money from even normal(not granny) users is different. If it was meter only, a low price for the connection[like$10 or so] and $0.25 per GB then maybe it could work, but a real pay per usage/pay as you go is not what these ISPs want, it will not gouge enough money from costumers. And as for that whole 'granny shouldn't pay for the higher usage guy.' Bull, she ain't paying for him if she has more speed than she needs she can down grade, they are paying for speed not usage. And if it cost an ISP x for their connection/backbone per month, and each costumer pays y and the ISP makes z(z>x>y,) how is that not fair? They both pay y I know she doesn't use as much. but if they are not on the lowest package why can't she get a slower package(lets say it costs w)? It would lower her cost and she would not be paying for speed she don't need. Then the higher usage would be paying y and the granny w(y>w). But some want granny to pay what she does now(y) and higher user to pay g(g>>>>>>>>>>>>y). If they must meter why not real PAYG?
If it was just a cap, with no meter then well there is not much that can be done, at least with the meter they can make sure it is an accurate meter, one that does not show high than actual usage to get more money from the costumer. But, if it is clear the ISP is price gouging its costumers(which I think it is) then the Gov can(and should) step in and should something. | |
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DSLUser001 to me1212
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2009-Jul-20 7:43 pm
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I doubt that FTC would step in to resolve the gouging. Money talks FTC listen ( Comcast and other broadband lobbyists). | |
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| baineschile2600 ways to live Premium Member join:2008-05-10 Sterling Heights, MI |
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5gb per day isnt too bad. Thats 150gigs/mo, which is more than 3 fold tw's 40 | |
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me1212
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2009-Jul-20 12:15 pm
Re: the extortion gets worse40x3=120, so 150 is 10GB less than 4x more than tw's 40Gb. 40x4=160. | |
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It's incredibly aggravating and discouraging to spread your data usage over a several day period.
Not to mention caps don't actually help manage network congestion. Not to mention there *is no* network congestion. Not to mention no ISP has ever justified their caps and throttling by revealing internal economic data. | |
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CableOne Sucks!I sure am glad that I am not stuck with CableOne as my Internet provider. These clowns are a buch of cheap loosers who are taking advantage of folks in a down economy. | |
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IowaMan
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2009-Jul-20 5:41 pm
Re: CableOne Sucks!I feel sorry for the Souix land of Iowa... At least everyware else we have Mediacom and for Council Bluffs they have COX communications | |
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funchordsHello MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA 2 edits |
Interesting FAQ answer on the 1 GB limit...» help.cableone.net/HSD/Pl ··· FAQ.aspxWhat happens if I exceed my allocation?
After exceeding the allocated bandwidth of one gigabyte, Cable One will charge you $10 for another allocation of 1 Gigabyte (1,024 Megabytes). This incremental allocation of one gigabyte is valid only for the current billing cycle and cannot be carried forward. Each incremental one Gigabyte allocation is $10. Should you use more than 5 incremental allocations, the maximum added charge is $50.00 which brings the maximum total charge to $70.00. If I upgrade from the Economy tier up to a flat rate tier mid-month after exceeding my allocation, will I still be charged a fee?
No, however you must remain on the higher tier for at least one full billing cycle. | |
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me1212
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2009-Jul-20 12:20 pm
Re: Interesting FAQ answer on the 1 GB limit...Wait wait wait, wait. $10 per GB? WTF. Thats price gouging. | |
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Re: Interesting FAQ answer on the 1 GB limit...Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back! | |
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said by funchords:» help.cableone.net/HSD/Pl ··· FAQ.aspxWhat happens if I exceed my allocation?
After exceeding the allocated bandwidth of one gigabyte, Cable One will charge you $10 for another allocation of 1 Gigabyte (1,024 Megabytes). This incremental allocation of one gigabyte is valid only for the current billing cycle and cannot be carried forward. Each incremental one Gigabyte allocation is $10. Should you use more than 5 incremental allocations, the maximum added charge is $50.00 which brings the maximum total charge to $70.00. If I upgrade from the Economy tier up to a flat rate tier mid-month after exceeding my allocation, will I still be charged a fee?
No, however you must remain on the higher tier for at least one full billing cycle. You do know Funchords, the Cable defense team on this site, is going to post how this is beneficial to providing QoS to it's customers. | |
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neufuse join:2006-12-06 James Creek, PA 1 edit |
1GB?Gawd my SB6120 modem uses 0.94 GB per day with just routing data and noise packets..... been testing that now for a month with a modem and router at a house no one is living at... almost constant stream of noise data.... | |
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crazyk4952 Premium Member join:2002-02-04 united state Ubiquiti EdgeRouter Lite Ubiquiti UniFi AP-LR Polycom VVX300
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pricingOne thing to note on the pricing information:
These prices INCLUDE the cost to rent a cable modem. BYOD saves $6/month.
Also, the top residential tier was lowered by $10/month and the speed increased from 8 Mb to 10 Mb. Yes it sucks to live outside of major cities, but at least we get faster speeds for less money now. | |
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what about the rate increase?you didn't mention anything about the $8 per month increase in the basic cable price that happened last month. if you want a rate increase to hit as many of your customers as possible, you do it on basic cable.
also, they've completely changed around their bundles and now all bundles INCLUDE phone service.
the plan i'm on was $99 when i started it (no phone service). now it's $132, and the only comparable bundle they have now is $164 (includes phone which i don't need). all of these are with the 5Mbps down and 500kbps up and the noon-midnight caps.
i know plenty of people despise ATT, but i can't wait for UVerse to become available. | |
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Re: what about the rate increase?Yes this is true. However, as soon as they increased their basic cable price to $50 I canceled my tv service and now all I get is internet. So this actually saved me $10/month on the 10Mb tier.
There are far too many commercials on cable tv for me to justify paying $50 for cable tv service. | |
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Jazdi
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2009-Jul-20 4:28 pm
could be worse!That 1GB per day plan is terrific compared to what we have here in Canada from the incumbents. Bell (the ILEC) and Rogers (the cableco) have 2GB/month caps on their ~$25 2mbps lite plans. | |
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Re: could be worse!That's not 1GB per day. It's 1GB PER MONTH!
CableOne's caps suck! I unfortunately use this service (5 mbit)and the daily caps on the service plus this new policy really have me thinking about jumping ship to Qwest. Even though Qwest isn't much better in this area, at least they don't have these terrible capping policies. | |
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Re: could be worse!I thought about that too, but Qwest will only provide me with 3Mb service! | |
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wakkedup to Jazdi
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2009-Jul-20 5:43 pm
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said by Jazdi:That 1GB per day plan is terrific compared to what we have here in Canada from the incumbents. Bell (the ILEC) and Rogers (the cableco) have 2GB/month caps on their ~$25 2mbps lite plans. Pretty sure it says 1GB per month, which I would assume is for low low usage, like grandma/grandpa checking e-mail and surfing to a couple links per day. | |
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Chrissy865888
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2009-Jul-20 7:26 pm
Ewwww.Thats the most nasty, evil sounding ISP in the entire world. Why would anyone want to do business with a company offering such abysmal service? | |
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| hayabusa3303Over 200 mph Premium Member join:2005-06-29 Florence, SC |
Re: Ewwww.said by Chrissy865888 :
Thats the most nasty, evil sounding ISP in the entire world. Why would anyone want to do business with a company offering such abysmal service? try TW they want a 5g cap period a month. | |
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The notion of caps at this point is...offensive. Seriously, what is the point of high-speed dsl or cable if caps are placed on the users who exploit these speeds. Stop with the caps, either offer full unlimited service with no caps or get out of the ISP business. | |
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Roop
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2009-Jul-20 9:07 pm
Re: The notion of caps at this point is...take a look in your area and see if there are resellers of service.
here in canada, for dsl there is a company called teksavvy. they have a 200gb cap where bell canada is 60gb.
for cable internet, there are unlimited resellers while the cable monopoly here is 60gb as well.
there are choices, it just means more work for you in the end. give it 5 years from now. the big isps will be killed by the reseller competition and will be forced to increase their caps. | |
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Re: The notion of caps at this point is...I don't mind working a little bit to get the type of service I need. Unfortunately in the states and specifically here in San Diego we have only 3 options and they are pretty regional; Cox, AT&T, and TW for the northern portions of San Diego County and that's it. I'm on Cox and so far they are still running unlimited. | |
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Time
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2009-Jul-21 12:41 am
Re: The notion of caps at this point is...said by Methadras:I don't mind working a little bit to get the type of service I need. Unfortunately in the states and specifically here in San Diego we have only 3 options and they are pretty regional; Cox, AT&T, and TW for the northern portions of San Diego County and that's it. I'm on Cox and so far they are still running unlimited. Cox has a monthly cap, they don't enforce it unless it is grossly abused though. | |
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Techie1
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2009-Jul-21 12:02 pm
Quit your crying...Look, working as tech support for an ISP I deal with hundreds of customers a week that are getting smashed because they have exceeded the daily limit in bandwith usage. Now what most of you do not realize is the reason we do implement these limits is because of people running business's on a residential account. Would it seem fair if because of one or two people the entire card gets capped? I know it sounds really easy to most of you. And as a consumer I do understand your ignorance, but being on the other side I realize there is a method for the madness. | |
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bksmith5
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2009-Jul-23 9:38 am
Karl -- the post needs an updateCableOne is still capping the business lines of service. Please refer to the following page on CableOne's site: » www.cableone.net/limits/ ··· its.aspxThat page has been updated to reflect the new service tiers. I'll admit that business tiers get a fair bit more than residential lines, but it's still not "cap-free" as business lines ought to be, IMO. I will continue to vote with my wallet and stay with CableOne or go with Midcontinent Cable (should they ever move into my area). I advise everyone I know to do the same, if possible. | |
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